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| Micro Stakes PL/NL Discussions regarding micro stakes pot and no-limit hold'em (25c-50c and below) |
08-10-2012, 05:46 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 424
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10nl 99,flop kkk
villian first hand
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BB: $8.49
UTG: $8.00
Hero (MP): $12.13
CO: $13.16
BTN: $12.59
SB: $12.67
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, UTG posts DB $0.10
Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero has 9  9
UTG checks, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.05, 2 players) K  K  K
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2.70, hero?
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08-10-2012, 08:56 PM
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#2
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centurion
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Glasgow, UK.
Posts: 189
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
I'm super happy to get it in here, I see a lot of players at 10nl limping small pocket pairs in EP and I also see people really over valuing their small pairs on a board such as this. And while we have no specific reads on the villian he has posted a bb instead of waiting for the bb and has also bought in for 80bb, both of which tend to indicate "fishiness" lol.
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08-10-2012, 09:02 PM
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#3
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
Fold. I see more better hands than worse hands do this + kx combos
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Originally Posted by BPBK
I'm super happy to get it in here, I see a lot of players at 10nl limping small pocket pairs in EP and I also see people really over valuing their small pairs on a board such as this. And while we have no specific reads on the villian he has posted a bb instead of waiting for the bb and has also bought in for 80bb, both of which tend to indicate "fishiness" lol.
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no one is limping and not many people play 66 this way
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08-11-2012, 03:51 AM
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#4
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 424
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
thanks,would like to hear some other responses
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08-11-2012, 04:27 AM
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adept
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,039
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
I'd let this one go.
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08-11-2012, 04:41 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,894
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BPBK
I'm super happy to get it in here, I see a lot of players at 10nl limping small pocket pairs in EP and I also see people really over valuing their small pairs on a board such as this. And while we have no specific reads on the villian he has posted a bb instead of waiting for the bb and has also bought in for 80bb, both of which tend to indicate "fishiness" lol.
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This.
U can only go on info you have. He didn't limp/reraise so think you can count out big pairs. UTG limp/call at this level is often small PP or Ax with the x being 2-5.
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08-11-2012, 08:46 AM
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Just Plain Nasty
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: #Heel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
Fold. I see more better hands than worse hands do this + kx combos
no one is limping and not many people play 66 this way
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This is bad advice. Never ever folding, pretty happy to call or just get it in now or on any turn.
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08-11-2012, 09:08 AM
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#8
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Holland
Posts: 512
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
Villain is checking his option. That indicates he doesn't even have the top of his range.
We kan be fairly confident he doesn't have AA, QQ and JJ. Probably not even TT as well.
We have to decide if we are going to raise to stack his lesser pairs or flat to call off his other bluffs.
I think the majority of his hands are bluffs so I'd opt to flat and let him bluff. We also have position so lets use it.
And yeah, he cośld have quads, but jeez, how often do you flop those?
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08-11-2012, 09:10 AM
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#9
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
This is bad advice. Never ever folding, pretty happy to call or just get it in now or on any turn.
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Hey spraggy, long time no see. Looks like you havent changed a bit.
Thanks for giving absolutely no reasoning whatsoever.
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08-11-2012, 09:14 AM
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#10
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
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Originally Posted by SRB12
Villain is checking his option. That indicates he doesn't even have the top of his range.
We kan be fairly confident he doesn't have AA, QQ and JJ. Probably not even TT as well.
We have to decide if we are going to raise to stack his lesser pairs or flat to call off his other bluffs.
I think the majority of his hands are bluffs so I'd opt to flat and let him bluff. We also have position so lets use it.
And yeah, he cośld have quads, but jeez, how often do you flop those?
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Villain checking his option means he has any2.... Not a defined range whatsoever. This means he also has any Kx combo.
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08-11-2012, 09:27 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Holland
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
No it does not. He can definitely check K2o utg and fold to a raise.
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08-11-2012, 09:43 AM
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#12
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
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Originally Posted by SRB12
No it does not. He can definitely check K2o utg and fold to a raise.
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yes, he could do that. But whats your point?
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08-11-2012, 10:06 AM
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#13
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centurion
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Glasgow, UK.
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
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Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
Fold. I see more better hands than worse hands do this + kx combos
no one is limping and not many people play 66 this way
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So your saying he checks TT+ when posting the BB, essentially limping? I don't think so. You say not many people play 66 this way, and your right, a thinking player doesn't, but as I have already said we can determine this player is not a reg, most likely a fish.
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08-11-2012, 10:16 AM
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#14
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
its not the same as limping...
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08-11-2012, 10:43 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Holland
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Re: 10nl 99,flop kkk
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Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
yes, he could do that. But whats your point?
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If you'd read my post you can perhaps jump to a conclusion. I make a statement on his range.
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