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06-28-2016 , 05:33 AM

Karrlitos1

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,749

Is turn fine? As played we do improve, but Villain's at this stake underbluff this spot, not sure what to do here. V. is 38/38 in 8 hands, not much help there.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37367736

BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $10.37 (103.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $11.22 (112.2 bb)
UTG: $18.58 (185.8 bb)
MP: $10.17 (101.7 bb)
CO: $9.70 (97 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.55) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.29, Hero calls $0.29

Turn: ($1.13) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.66, Hero calls $0.66

River: ($2.45) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

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06-28-2016 , 05:50 AM

ChipsNcrisps

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

We have to fold river here IMO. Spades got there, we block 9T.

V would have to triple barrel random air like AQo for us to call.

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06-28-2016 , 05:52 AM

MacAnRi

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 121

check raise flop is acceptable but not necessary and I think on the turn there are a lot of cards we don't like so make it more expensive for V

I would c/r flop and donk bet (>70%)pot on turn then check back river and evaluate - probably not folding even though he mostly has flushes in his v bet range

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06-28-2016 , 05:53 AM

Karrlitos1

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,749

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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps

We have to fold river here IMO. Spades got there, we block 9T.

V would have to triple barrel random air like AQo for us to call.

Ok,thanks. What do you think about the turn?

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06-28-2016 , 05:55 AM

xMJK

adept

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 744

Looks fine vs unk

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06-28-2016 , 06:00 AM

ChipsNcrisps

Pooh-Bah

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Originally Posted by Karrlitos1

Ok,thanks. What do you think about the turn?

turn fold looks too weak.

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06-28-2016 , 06:15 AM

ForeverLearning

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,006

easy call down, especially when he bets small like that

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06-28-2016 , 06:51 AM

n30n

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 237

If Villain is a strong player then I agree we should fold JTs OTR since our range OTR is all Jx and a good Villain would know this and only value bet AJs/KJs and better. We would fold JTs for the reasons ChipsnCrisps mentioned and probably call QJs,KJs,AJs. OTT we plan on folding 99,TT and calling all Jx approximately.

Also, if we know Villain is probably bad then we should actually lead river since bad players can't hand read and fold overpairs and the J discourages them from betting... against some fish x/c and x/r work too need a read though.

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06-28-2016 , 07:32 AM

xMJK

adept

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 744

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Originally Posted by n30n

If Villain is a strong player then I agree we should fold JTs OTR

I think your confusing strong and unbalanced

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06-28-2016 , 08:03 AM

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n30n

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 237

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Originally Posted by xMJK

I think your confusing strong and unbalanced

No what I mean by strong player is someone who is able to hand-read, perhaps even knows our strategy.

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06-28-2016 , 09:13 AM

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MONEYMAN06

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 397

i think you played it fine. Call turn and call river. Unless I knew villain is a competent reg I wouldn't consider folding here.

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06-28-2016 , 09:37 AM

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corvusim

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 474

Don't see a great reason to fold river. Few combos of stronger Jx hand (QJ, KJ, AJ), 88 & 33, not a lot of other suited hands in his MP range that cbet that flop, a few Axss and Kxss.

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06-29-2016 , 07:45 AM

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meale

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9,768

Xr flop is ******ed. As played if villain was confirmed 14/11 it's a snap fold, vs unk here it's whatever I recon. Prob still fold unless villain's a spastic (we lose to everything)

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06-29-2016 , 09:27 AM

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Whittey Houston

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 409

Probably wont folding here. If villain was tight and we had some reads he never bluffs then I fold OTR

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06-29-2016 , 10:13 AM

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ILoseAtNL2

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 5

Villain has to know that Jx makes up a large proportion of your range. I don't think villain is vbetting many hands that you beat. J9 is in villains range but besides that, everything beats you. Villain could check if he couldn't beat trips given that he's last to act.

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06-29-2016 , 12:42 PM

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cantor1987

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,621

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Originally Posted by xMJK

I think your confusing strong and unbalanced

Agree with this,

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06-29-2016 , 04:26 PM

#17

de_man

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,513

lol @ the idea of folding anywhere, especially the river

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