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06-05-2008 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
Haha, until I moved out, yeah they wanted to see me in a factory slaving away, but once they saw that I was paying bills with poker money they started to accept it more freely. I guess they just didn't really know too much about it but since I lived a year essentially paying for everything and am not broke, they're all for it now.
Tres Cool
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06-05-2008 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PJo336
This may have been asked, but at the point you are at now, what do you think is your biggest leak or issue holding you back from hsnl success?
If I knew, I'd be having hsnl success, right? I dunno though, I'd say my lack of aggression and my inability to deal with constant aggression well enough. Also I make a lot of bad calls on the end because I know eventually they gotta be bluffing.

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Originally Posted by Mayo
What do you look for in a poker coach?

Do you want to go to Cedar Point with me and a couple of OMGtards this summer?

Do you gamble other than poker?

Can I have $10K on ftp for $10K on stars (YOU SHIP FIRST I'M GOOD FOR IT I SWEAR!)

Do you have a job irl?
I look for someone who truly cares about his students. I IMed Greg and we talked for probably 45 minutes and this was even before I was 100% sure if I wanted him to coach me. Obv poker knowledge is good but knowing that the person will put a lot of effort into the sessions is a huge plus.

I'm not big on rollercoasters, who's all going?

I make prop bets and stuff but only on small things. I don't see myself being addicted to table games when I finally go to a casino but who knows.

Yeah, shipped.

I haven't had a job since last June.
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06-05-2008 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
2. Realizing that people aren't out to get you. If someone makes a move on you, they probably just have a hand. Learn that people can have air (see a showdown) before you re-bluff someone or call off a stack with a marginal hand.

Obv this doesn't apply to me.

Why are you not studying life right now?

How do you know the hottest girls in Ohio?

When am I going to stop dropping 3 BI per hour on megatard plays and start crushing?

Favorite non-poker website

Celts or Lakers
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06-05-2008 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Snipe
Obv this doesn't apply to me.
True, everyone's out to get you.

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Why are you not studying life right now?
Asked to do this instead, I'll do it tonight obv.

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How do you know the hottest girls in Ohio?
Cause they wanna know the hottest guy in Ohio.

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When am I going to stop dropping 3 BI per hour on megatard plays and start crushing?
When people stop being out to get you?

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Favorite non-poker website
Wow, I don't know.. I mean I guess I check espn.com way too often, so that, but I don't really look at anything non-poker besides facebook.

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Celts or Lakers
I ****ing hate the Celts.
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06-05-2008 , 07:09 PM
Best unl posters? Mine any good?

Also I havent quite grasped 4betting yet, when 4betting light(not often obv.) do you make it 3x the 3bet?
Eg hero raises 4xBB on button, TAG BB raises to 12xBB what do you make it if you want to 4bet but not commit yourself? Ill be doing this like never at NL25 as theres no need, but figure its required for when moving up
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06-05-2008 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
Wow, I don't know.. I mean I guess I check espn.com way too often, so that, but I don't really look at anything non-poker besides facebook.
Questionable honesty imo.
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06-05-2008 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jub.
Best unl posters? Mine any good?
Pokey, munkey, ajmargarine, azplaya, lego05 - sorry new posters, I don't know you as well as I know these guys, and these guys post goooooood.

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Also I havent quite grasped 4betting yet, when 4betting light(not often obv.) do you make it 3x the 3bet?
Eg hero raises 4xBB on button, TAG BB raises to 12xBB what do you make it if you want to 4bet but not commit yourself? Ill be doing this like never at NL25 as theres no need, but figure its required for when moving up
Like you said, this isn't needed at nl25, this isn't needed EVER really, as it's better to call IP and play postflop since they're OOP, but if you were to be so inclined to 4bet bluff and fold, making it 28bb accomplishes the same thing as making it 40x. But if you think someone's 3betting light, lowering your opening raise size to 3x (you have to do this on all buttons or zero buttons though) will be better if you want to 4bet bluff. But I'd say you don't need to 4bet bluff for quite some time, mostly because people c-bet too much in 3bet pots and they c-bet too blindly, so it's much more profitable to take a flop than it is to shove and take their 12bb.

Last edited by thac; 06-06-2008 at 10:21 AM.
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06-05-2008 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Snipe
Questionable honesty imo.
Alright, alright, myfreepaysite.com.
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06-05-2008 , 07:18 PM
Serious question - what are your thoughts on seemingly nitty TAG's who manage to 3b the **** outta you (you know who you are unkle_****us). What is your preferred method of dealing with assclowns who feel it's their duty to god to defend their blinds with ATC? 4b light? Call IP with anything that plays well? Shove a polarized range?

How do you go about determining their range as they are often complete spazztards.
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06-05-2008 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Snipe
Serious question - what are your thoughts on seemingly nitty TAG's who manage to 3b the **** outta you (you know who you are unkle_****us). What is your preferred method of dealing with assclowns who feel it's their duty to god to defend their blinds with ATC? 4b light? Call IP with anything that plays well? Shove a polarized range?

How do you go about determining their range as they are often complete spazztards.
Said this above:

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But if you think someone's 3betting light, lowering your opening raise size to 3x (you have to do this on all buttons or zero buttons though) will be better if you want to 4bet bluff. But I'd say you don't need to 4bet bluff for quite some time, mostly because people c-bet too much in 3bet pots and they c-bet too blindly, so it's much more profitable to take a flop than it is to shove and take their 12bb.
And I 100% think it's better than 4betting. You can still 4bet stuff lighter for value of course (like 99+ or w/e) but calling 3bets with hands that flop well just to shove over the inevitable c-bet is a lot better than 4bet bluffing with a hand like JTs or something similar. Like, these hands are both against a spazzy 16/13 that loves to 3bet the hell out of me. Obv I flopped gin in hand 2, but look at how spazzy he gets postflop:

Hand #1
Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (SB): $438.00
BB: $394.00
CO: $1274.85
BTN: $387.40

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $48, Hero raises to $112, BB raises to $264, Hero raises to $438 all in, BB calls $130 all in

Flop: ($788.00) 4 9 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($788.00) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($788.00) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $788.00
Hero shows 9h 9c (four of a kind, Nines)
BB mucks 3h 3s
Hero wins $786.00
(Rake: $2.00)

Hand #2
Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $2072.35
Hero (BTN/SB): $396.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with J 9
Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($96.00) 9 Q 7 (2 players)
BB bets $72, Hero raises to $348 all in, BB calls $276

Turn: ($792.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($792.00) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $792.00
BB shows 7c Td (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Hero shows Js 9s (three of a kind, Nines)
Hero wins $791.00
(Rake: $1.00)


There's just so many things you can do to counter these guys because generally they 3bet the wrong hands (AJo, KQo, etc... hands that don't really do well in a bloated pot), and they don't know what to do postflop a lot of the time, so the 12bb you're calling isn't really that bad when you know they're gonna spaz out postflop.
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06-05-2008 , 07:30 PM
how many days a month do u play?

how many of these days are winning days?

biggest/most "aha" moment of your poker career?

how can i improve my posting? should i bother posting in the brew? how can i get the very most out of twoplustwo?
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06-05-2008 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hennnerz
how many days a month do u play?
Usually like 27 of them, I take probably one day off a week, if that.

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how many of these days are winning days?
Hah, I don't know really, I'd say 3/4 of them are winning days.

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biggest/most "aha" moment of your poker career?
Ughh I hate this question and I've been dreading it, because I really don't know what the "biggest" one is, but seriously, bet/folding instead of check/calling is just so important, so I guess I'd say that because it ties in with how aggression owns.

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how can i improve my posting? should i bother posting in the brew? how can i get the very most out of twoplustwo?
Explain everything as deeply as you can. Know more than what you're doing, know the "why" of what you're doing. You'll start to get stuff pounded into your head better and you'll also help other people learn better. How you can get the most out of 2+2 is to just go up to SSNL or MSNL and ask questions about peoples' advice. If you don't understand something ask them to explain it, they usually will. That'll give you a deeper perspective and you'll be able to think deeper when you're replying to hands down here.
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06-05-2008 , 07:43 PM
If there was a magic pill that would remove any negative emotions associated with downswings, losing big pots etc etc etc, how much (%) of your current roll would you give up for it.

How much of your current roll would you give up for the ability to play 72+ hour sessions with a natural adderall-like focus and 8 table with the precision that most people can 4 table.

How many multiples of your current roll would you allow yourself to be indebted to pay someone in 2 years if you could suddenly play as well as CTS but with the stipulation that you couldn't play higher than $3/$6 6m and $2/$4 HU.

If an inside source told you that every single fish and TAGfish would suddenly stop playing every existing form of poker and that no one would be able to sustain a longterm winrate of more than 0.5ptbb/100 at SSNL and above... {take a breath}

... but there was this new game just like omaha but with 8 cards instead of 4 that all the fish wanted to play, how much effort would you put into learning it?
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06-05-2008 , 07:45 PM
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I try to play 2-3 hours a day
wat?

how many tables do you play at a time? have you played just 2-3 hours per day for a long time? only since you've been more successful? is it an attention span thing, life balance, or...?

Just curious, b/c I tend to put in long sessions and sometimes wonder whether shorter would be better.

I just thought of you as a degen perma-attached to the computer like me.

(oh, and thx for doing this)
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06-05-2008 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot_Coco
If there was a magic pill that would remove any negative emotions associated with downswings, losing big pots etc etc etc, how much (%) of your current roll would you give up for it.
Probably like 10% - my mental game is pretty good as it is.

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How much of your current roll would you give up for the ability to play 72+ hour sessions with a natural adderall-like focus and 8 table with the precision that most people can 4 table.
50%, definitely. My work ethic sucks.

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How many multiples of your current roll would you allow yourself to be indebted to pay someone in 2 years if you could suddenly play as well as CTS but with the stipulation that you couldn't play higher than $3/$6 6m and $2/$4 HU.
wat?

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If an inside source told you that every single fish and TAGfish would suddenly stop playing every existing form of poker and that no one would be able to sustain a longterm winrate of more than 0.5ptbb/100 at SSNL and above... {take a breath}

... but there was this new game just like omaha but with 8 cards instead of 4 that all the fish wanted to play, how much effort would you put into learning it?
A lot, why wouldn't I? If the fish are playing it, I want to play it.




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Originally Posted by Virge
how many tables do you play at a time? have you played just 2-3 hours per day for a long time? only since you've been more successful? is it an attention span thing, life balance, or...?

Just curious, b/c I tend to put in long sessions and sometimes wonder whether shorter would be better.

I just thought of you as a degen perma-attached to the computer like me.

(oh, and thx for doing this)
4-6 tables, I mostly just get bored and start doing other stuff and play bad after a while. I've put in 15 hours this month so far though without playing hardly at all today so that's liek 4.25 hours per day this month. I'm getting better.

Also, yeah I sit in front of my computer a lot, but I do a bunch of lazy **** on 2+2 that I shouldn't. I could definitely put in 6-8 hours if I worked hard at it but then I have a feeling I'd hate life. I'm pretty comfortable with it I guess even though I want to start putting more hours in soon.
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06-05-2008 , 08:15 PM
what % of your current earn would you put on a 50-50 getting 3:1 odds?

thx for answers
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06-05-2008 , 08:15 PM
Ramones or Moterhead?
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06-05-2008 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hennnerz
what % of your current earn would you put on a 50-50 getting 3:1 odds?

thx for answers
I don't know, I mean I don't really like to do stuff like that cause I think my edge is bigger in poker.
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06-05-2008 , 08:16 PM
Thanks for answering all the questions.

1. Do you think poker is more art or more science?
2. Is it more of a learned skill or is there some poker gene people have (like golf or something).
3. What percent of uNL posters do you think can make it to say 2/4 and 5/10?
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06-05-2008 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dlorc
Ramones or Moterhead?
Ramones.
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06-05-2008 , 08:18 PM
Kathy Liebert with a strapon, or Patrick Antonious?
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06-05-2008 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HighOctane
Thanks for answering all the questions.

1. Do you think poker is more art or more science?
2. Is it more of a learned skill or is there some poker gene people have (like golf or something).
3. What percent of uNL posters do you think can make it to say 2/4 and 5/10?
Can you elaborate on #1? If you mean something like is it math or is it feel, it's definitely a combination of both and even though you can be good at one and not the other, I think having a good mix of both is best. If I had to pick one, I'd say feel, but only because I suck at math.

Poker can be learned up to 200nl I think. After that, it's where the difference between the real good analytical thinkers and the people that learned the game "by the book". I hope that answers your question, it's really tough to describe.

A verrrrrrry small percent will make it to MSNL, it's just a really tough road and you guys have a late start compared to the SSNL and MSNL regulars.
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06-05-2008 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dlorc
Kathy Liebert with a strapon, or Patrick Antonious?
PA obv.
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06-05-2008 , 08:26 PM
this thread is so long already

anyway, you're ******g awesome! when did you first stop button clicking.
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06-05-2008 , 08:27 PM
Blond with big boobs, or brunette with none?
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