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Don't sweat it. Villain is making a pretty big mistake by calling that turn.
You make $ or £ in the long run.
Easier said than done I know when you're on a ****** run.

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01-24-2011 , 02:59 PM

#627

Foldo

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meh, the truth is, i suck, im a tilt monkey and i whine a lot.

Last edited by Foldo; 01-24-2011 at 03:05 PM.

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01-24-2011 , 05:01 PM

#628

Night Crawler

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Thoughts?
Should i fold flop here?

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $1.84 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 50, AF: Infinity, Hands: 6
BTN: $7.02 - VPIP: 7, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 27
Hero (SB): $7.09 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 2.6, Hands: 724
BB: $4.37 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 11
UTG: $7.35 - VPIP: 6, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 32
MP: $2.26 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 17

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with 7

UTG calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.15) 9

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BB folds, UTG raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.85) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.45, Hero folds

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01-25-2011 , 01:12 AM

#629

Reframer

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I'd fold pre.
These suited gappers are hard to extract with OOP when you hit and most of the time you miss completely or have bottom or mid pair no kicker.
As played I'm not sure.
Villain's turn sizing suggests they're not exactly in love with their hand.
Why are you calling the flop raise if you're going to check fold turn on the blankest of blanks?

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01-25-2011 , 01:16 AM

#630

Reframer

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Is this a good spot to 4b bluff at 25NL or have I been watching too much JBalla?
1st two are pretty standard tags and the squeezer is 16/16/11.4 over 100 hands with all the 3b coming from the blinds.

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UTG: $9.75
MP: $25.00
CO: $31.51
BTN: $26.12
SB: $34.10
Hero (BB): $27.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with J

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $8

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01-25-2011 , 02:02 AM

#631

Rob Filter

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BTN: $9.59
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $5.68
UTG: $10.00
MP: $10.05
CO: $10.56

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 7

2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, CO raises to $3.75, Hero folds

Villain is 72/11 over 7 hands or so. Value betting that turn fine? Does the size need to be bigger?

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01-25-2011 , 03:02 AM

#632

Reframer

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Looks pretty standard until you get an idea of how villain plays postflop.
Probably assume they're floating with Ax, 5x, 6x as well as 77+, Kx and OEs/GSs until you get better reads.

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01-25-2011 , 03:17 AM

#633

Auts

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Originally Posted by Reframer

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $8

I don't hate this, but would do this more likely with Ax (blokkers). Also would 4b bit less, somethuing around ~7

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01-25-2011 , 05:15 AM

#634

tomcat20185

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Originally Posted by Foldo

these are euro and pound tables and i dont feel comfy stacking off there yet, so im taking verneers advice to buy in 50, 60ish bbs

foldo, if you would, will you post a link of this, or pm it to me?

thanks.

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01-25-2011 , 05:44 AM

#635

Rob Filter

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BB: $6.18
UTG: $10.10
CO: $10.32
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $22.80

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 9

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.25) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.25) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

No significant reads on villains over the 9 hands so far, he's limped and raised once.

My plan for the turn is to fold if he barrels a normal bet size, and if he checks turn to check behind and bluff catch river. Anywhere I can improve this line?

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01-25-2011 , 08:38 AM

#636

Foldo

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Originally Posted by tomcat20185

foldo, if you would, will you post a link of this, or pm it to me?

thanks.

he mentions it in quite a few posts i read in his new Challenge thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=302

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=309

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=314

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01-25-2011 , 10:46 AM

#637

vikingkong

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Rob:

- the 77 hand is wp, his range has plenty worse on that turn you can extract value from, b/f is std.
- the T9o I would probably fold flop. Don't mind calling too much because it's a minr and he's not full stacked, but by the river a lot of straight draws/gutshots beat you (89, J9, J8). But really it's a complete guessing game to his range without any showdown info.

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01-25-2011 , 10:55 AM

#638

donnyz89

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($62.61)
BB ($48.64)
UTG ($33.85)
UTG+1 ($30.73) (loose passive fish 60/0 , will lead out with a hand and c/f most other times)
Hero ($26.95)
BTN ($27.64) (mayb a reg? 21/20 so far over 20 hands)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, BTN calls $1, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75

FLOP ($3.35) 9

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2, UTG+1 folds

TURN ($7.35) 9

Hero bets $4.25, BTN calls $4.25

RIVER ($15.85) 9

Hero bets $10,

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01-25-2011 , 01:21 PM

#639

bdp1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foldo

i dno for me buying in for 50bb seems ******ed bad advice

if you've been in 2+2 for more than 1 week you have huge edge on loose passive fish (huge % of player pool)

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01-25-2011 , 01:41 PM

#640

(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)

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Originally Posted by bdp1

i dno for me buying in for 50bb seems ******ed bad advice

if you've been in 2+2 for more than 1 week you have huge edge on loose passive fish (huge % of player pool)

I just wanted to say exactly this. I think its about as ******ed as his 4bet shoving with 22-99 shizzle.

And you dont learn how to play with 100bb stacks, which is why you play 10nl, to learn how to play poker.

"you are not comfortable with the stakes" is another non-argument because playing with shorter stacks = smaller edge = higher variance which prob doesnt even make up for the fact that you lose smaller stacks at a time since you need to get it in so much more often and lighter.

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01-25-2011 , 02:01 PM

#641

gonnacrush

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Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)

But the regs probably stack off way lighter, at least thats what I do against ******ed 50bb'ers.

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01-25-2011 , 02:29 PM

#642

gonnacrush

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Hi, rush poker so no reads.

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BTN: $4.67
SB: $2.62
BB: $9.48
UTG: $5.97
MP: $4.18
Hero (CO): $5.45

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with A

UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.22, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.51) 5

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.51,Hero gets it in?

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Hero (SB): $8.10
BB: $9.23
UTG: $5.38
MP: $21.25
CO: $12.88
BTN: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with Q

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.66, BTN calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.37) 3

(2 players)
Hero b/f? c/f? b/c?

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01-25-2011 , 02:58 PM

#643

Auts

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gonnacrush

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Hero (SB): $8.10
BB: $9.23
UTG: $5.38
MP: $21.25
CO: $12.88
BTN: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with Q

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.66, BTN calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.37) 3

(2 players)
Hero b/f? c/f? b/c?

Call pre.

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01-25-2011 , 03:12 PM

#644

JustSomeGuy

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Originally Posted by Auts

Call pre.

His 3B is fine BTN vs blinds.

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01-25-2011 , 03:18 PM

#645

Foldo

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meh, it's not that big of a deal buying in 60bbs. most fishes are short anyways and regs do stack off ligther. just w8 for a hand to bet-shove ott with and play your normal 100bb game.

Last edited by Foldo; 01-25-2011 at 03:24 PM.

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01-25-2011 , 04:37 PM

#646

Foldo

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how do you play this ?

utg is a fish and btn is new

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NL Holdem $0.04(BB) IPoker
SB ($3.79)
BB ($5)
UTG ($4.86)
Hero ($5.02)
CO ($4.80)
BTN ($4.88)

Dealt to Hero T

UTG raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.24, fold, BTN calls $0.24, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.16

FLOP ($0.78) 6

UTG checks, Hero bets $0.56, BTN calls $0.56, UTG folds

TURN ($1.90) 6

Hero checks, BTN bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95

RIVER ($3.80) 6

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.13 (AI), Hero calls $3.13

Hero shows T

(Pre 18%, Flop 9.1%, Turn 4.5%)

BTN shows J

(Pre 82%, Flop 90.9%, Turn 95.5%)

BTN wins $9.39

Last edited by Foldo; 01-25-2011 at 04:42 PM.

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01-25-2011 , 05:17 PM

#647

gonnacrush

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Originally Posted by Auts

Call pre.

I appreciate it that you give atleast some comment about the hand but I asked about the turn.

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01-25-2011 , 06:20 PM

#648

andymc1

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Villain is 26/17 over 100 hands.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1141744
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SB: $10.48
BB: $10.22
UTG: $9.78
CO: $8.59
Hero (BTN): $14.21

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.05) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

River: ($6.65) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero folds

Final Pot: $6.65
BB wins $6.33
(Rake: $0.32)

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01-25-2011 , 06:39 PM

#649

Hoagie

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3bet flop imo. KQ,AQ TJ 97 8T can all be raising here. Its a coord board and we dont like lots of turns.

As played I am a little worried cus the turn is an awful card to barrel with a bluff. I would probably raise the turn if I flatted flop he Is repping pretty narrow and whilst I don't know, I imagine he could be doing this with 1 pair hands.

The river is like puke in your shoes time. We can be pretty sure he never had a set because there are so few combos of them out there but all of his Q's got there. I dislike how passively you played the hand, but river is a fold.

I wonder what mister deity thinks about this?

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01-25-2011 , 07:08 PM

#650

Zaba

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The exact first hand on this table. Villains stack size indicates that he's obv not a reg. Turn is bad card for him to barrel but I feel like he doesn't pay too much attention to that kind of stuff. He did also pretty much instapot every street.

Entraction $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $53.80
MP: $80.05
CO: $69.22
BTN: $50.00
SB: $39.77

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A

4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($9.00) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

River: ($27.00) T

(2 players)
SB bets $26.27, Hero ???