I really didn't give it a second thought, it was like a snapcall. I wondered if I should have bet more on the turn.

I'm losing to a weird A3, K3, 34 kinda hand which I really think he doesn't call my 3bet with pre-flop. Then there's AK/AA/QQ which I'm sure he 4bets with.

How often do I expect to see J10 here?

How often is villain's line a busted flush draw making a desperation bluff?

it's tough to say, since it's very villain dependent. turn bet should be a little bigger, i agree, maybe somewhere in the range of 0.50$ - 0.60$. if villain does chase gutters w JT otf AND ott; then just make a note and value town him next time with big bets. also, if he bluffs with busted FD; take a note and call him down lighter next time.

If I bet more on the turn, say 0.60 and the villain still calls. We're looking at a pot of $1.92 with $1.22 remaining in my stack. If he shoves as he did, the pot will be $3.14 and I'll be looking at 2.5/1 on the call. Doesn't the hand very likely play out the same way on every river that isn't a spade in that without a 3 or AK in his range very often, I have to call?

I'm second guessing myself a little on the hand, it'd be good to see what a few more people say about it.

Rush poker 5NL.
Standard 200BB deep?


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Hero (BTN): $12.09
SB: $5.57
BB: $11.03
UTG: $6.47
MP: $4.54
CO: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.82, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.57

Flop: ($1.71) T 3 7 (2 players)
BB bets $1.71, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $10.21 all in, Hero folds

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.35(BB) Party
SB ($25)
BB ($32.12)
Hero ($37.61)
CO ($11.52)
BTN ($41.32)

Dealt to Hero A K

Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, SB calls $1.15, fold

FLOP ($3.10) 6 K A

SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $7, Hero raises to $36.36 (AI), SB calls $16.75 (AI)

TURN ($50.60) 6 K A 7

RIVER ($50.60) 6 K A 7 5

SB shows 6 6
(Pre 55%, Flop 78.7%, Turn 90.9%)

Hero shows A K
(Pre 45%, Flop 21.3%, Turn 9.1%)

SB wins $48.07

No can do against 18/16 right?

Incredibly standard Auts, nh.

I'll try this FD style

fairly standard, what's his fold to flop cbet?

If you opponent is competent it's fine. Sometimes hard to tell if an opponent is competent at these stakes but I like the fold.

Seems fine to me


don't fold sets 100 bb deep (generalization of course). stack off on the turn.

no stats on villain. Call the river min raise?


BB: $31.26
UTG: $32.75
MP: $29.47
CO: $8.67
Hero (BTN): $33.05
SB: $25.10

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, fold

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 6 8 T
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.75, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.75

River: ($9.25, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB raises to $11.00, Hero calls $5.50

jeez. readless, i vote fold.

I think you should bet flop bigger. River size seems small to me, I'd be making it more like 6-7, and sighfold to the minraise

guise, size?

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SB ($27.25)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($25)
CO ($23.69)
Hero ($44.60)

Dealt to Hero 8 T

fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, fold, fold, CO calls $0.75

FLOP ($2.35) 6 4 7

CO checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25

TURN ($4.85) 6 4 7 9

CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls $4

RIVER ($12.85) 6 4 7 9 8

CO checks, Hero bets $???,

villain has ~17 left or so. std fish, calls too much.

9.75 imo

6-7 or shove imo, prob shove and hope he had sd and not fd

@vintguns w QQ: don't raise flop

Villain is running like 74/17 over about 16 hands, definitely a fish despite small sample. Has a 100% call PFR from 7 hands of 7 oppurtunities. When he calls I definitely believe he has every Ax combo in his range but also a ton of other junk he might be overplaying.

My image is probably a little aggressive as he had previously limp-called my raise when I had AK. He donked small on a Q high board, I raised and he called. He lead the turn for about 2/3 pot and I folded.

Probably should have bet turn....Weak tight-scared on the turn or has villain just outflopped me?

BTN: $2.91
Hero (SB): $2.00
BB: $1.92
UTG: $1.71
CO: $2.00

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.68, 2 players) 7 A 4
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.18, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.46, Hero?

Not like these spots come up very often, but I always end up doubting myself afterwards.
UTG is a nit (~14/9 at that time, hadn't opened once from EP yet after 80 hands), fwiw he's 29/23 after 350 hands now in my database but I couldn't have known that at that time.

At first I thought my sizing was terrible, but is it really that bad? Also, do you flat or 3-bet here?


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Hero ($42.48)
BB ($24.49)
UTG ($26.50)
UTG+1 ($25)
CO ($83.81)
BTN ($36.18)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

UTG raises to $1, UTG+1 calls $1, CO calls $1, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, UTG raises to $11.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $42.48 (AI), UTG calls $15 (AI)

FLOP ($55.25) K 9 4

TURN ($55.25) K 9 4 2

RIVER ($55.25) K 9 4 2 7

Villain is 25/17/33 after just 12 hands. Hadn't seen him do anything out of the ordinary. I don't think he's a fish as I've seen him at the tables before but I'm guessing.

Shoud I be 4betting pre-flop here? Am I definitely folding to a 5bet shove?

I think flop call is standard but if he leads the turn am I willing to stack off with an overpair? I always seem to get into these situations and end up stacking off when I'm crushed by QQ, KK, AA.

Once he checks I think turn bet is compulsory. Any help appreciated...

Hero (UTG): $2.00
MP: $1.69
CO: $2.13
BTN: $2.02
SB: $3.81
BB: $1.40

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J J

Hero raises to $0.07, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.23, fold, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.48, 2 players) 6 7 5
SB bets $0.38, Hero calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.24, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80

9.5 or put him to a decision for all his chips. 1bb bigger on flop imo. /nitpick

There's no way of knowing since hes just clicking buttons and as you said he has every Ax. If he's passive on rivers, you can c/c turn and c/f river. If he's passive on flops, you can start by checking. Good 3bet size pre.

If you squeeze, you're getting it in. It's fine.

Before you bet turn you need to know whether or not you are b/cing. Checking back turn is totally fine if you think his range is QQ+,AK (which means you are bluffcatching). He's not c/cing AK so there isn't that much value in betting vs that range. Call river non A/K if he leads.

Thanks for the help, appreciate it.

On the second hand, I guess I didn't think through betting. My thought at the time was he was an aggressive player who had given up on the turn. I'm putting him on a wide range of overcards like AK, AQ, AJ, KQ as well as 99 and 10s which I'm ahead of. I think he leads the flop for sure with any draw draw and any OESD like if he held 88 or 44 so I don't put him on those given they're pretty unlikely anyway.

I guess I figured that I simply don't want to see a river. Whether that is a legitimate reason to bet out I don't know. This is an area of my game that definitely needs work. I often misplay overpairs in this kind of situation.

No reads on SB but MP is a complete idiot likely to call with anything. SB has only played a handful of hands at the table.

Thinking of folding a full house? OMG I'M IVEY lol;

CO: $2.45
BTN: $1.28
SB: $1.29
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $1.01
MP: $1.59

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K J

fold, MP calls $0.02, fold, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) 8 K A
SB bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02

Turn: ($0.12, 3 players) K
SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold

River: ($0.34, 2 players) A
Hero checks, MP bets $0.50, Hero hates life

If worst comes to worst you can fold and lose 12c.

is this ok or terrible? guy plays like 13/10 but is evidently not multitabling because he's using the chat box... i guess it's pretty bad because of stack sizes? should i make a more reasonable turn bet instead?

Merge - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $34.00
UTG: $29.64
MP: $47.21
CO: $15.35
BTN: $30.18
SB: $47.11

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K Q

fold, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.10, MP calls $0.85, CO calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.40, 3 players) T 4 J
Hero checks, MP bets $2.26, fold, Hero raises to $6.52, MP calls $4.26

Turn: ($16.44, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $26.38 and is all-in

You played it fine.

Er, start by betting flop. x/r is fps.

Against a 51/15.

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SB: $26.77
BB: $25.00
UTG: $24.15
Hero (MP): $25.04
CO: $25.00
BTN: $40.90

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J J
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 7 9 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.55) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero?

you're right of course, thanks

@ antonio,
I really like checking the turn, so we don't inadvertently barrel him off 9x or some weak draw. I think barreling small is fine too.