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07-19-2017 , 10:42 PM
I think V can do it w/ a reasonable part of his range, straight Draws, Ace spades, stuff like that, or even a worse J. You?

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Converted at http://handhistoryconverter.com/

Button ($10.47)
Hero (SB) ($5)
BB ($5.06)
UTG ($5)
MP ($5)
CO ($5.42)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.16, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.14, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.37) J, 9, 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.07) J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.77, CO raises to $4.91 (All-In),

Hero ???
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07-19-2017 , 11:30 PM
why lead
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07-20-2017 , 12:03 AM
3bet or fold is better
note that he bombed the flop (near full pot) wanting to charge FD's (strong but vulnerable hands bet big in general) thus when the board pairs his raise-shove reps a fullhouse

from a GTO perspective, your donk lead on the turn is terrible unless you will also lead with some of your full houses that can call the turn shove. My guess is you won't lead here with your full houses because you'd rather check raise turn or river. So if you're not donk=leading these then you shouldn't donk lead your weaker hands either.

Anyways... just some things to think about.
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07-20-2017 , 12:14 AM
3bet of fold pre. Not really a fan flatting my holdings in SB.

Dunno why u are leading turn. AP, fold?
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07-20-2017 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by viagem
I think V can do it w/ a reasonable part of his range, straight Draws, Ace spades, stuff like that, or even a worse J. You?
Well based on your description of the villain, I completely agree with you.
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07-20-2017 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GloryRising
3bet or fold is better
note that he bombed the flop (near full pot) wanting to charge FD's (strong but vulnerable hands bet big in general) thus when the board pairs his raise-shove reps a fullhouse

from a GTO perspective, your donk lead on the turn is terrible unless you will also lead with some of your full houses that can call the turn shove. My guess is you won't lead here with your full houses because you'd rather check raise turn or river. So if you're not donk=leading these then you shouldn't donk lead your weaker hands either.

Anyways... just some things to think about.
Nice pick about the V's Flop bet sizing, but if his hand is "vulnerable", once more i can think he holds AA (maybe w/ the ace of spades), which can be considered a "vulnerable" hand.
And, answering your question (and the others), i lead turn precisely thinking to charge FD's and others draws, aces, worse Jacks, stuff like that... Doesnt makes sense?

And, yeah, i would lead with a FH too... For the same reasons: charge "vulnerable" os speculative hands.

Sorry, but im still in doubt with any questions...

Tx a lot all
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07-20-2017 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AltoZZ
3bet of fold pre. Not really a fan flatting my holdings in SB.

Dunno why u are leading turn. AP, fold?
Yep, fold, but didnt like and still in doubt...
Tx
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07-23-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by viagem
Nice pick about the V's Flop bet sizing, but if his hand is "vulnerable", once more i can think he holds AA (maybe w/ the ace of spades), which can be considered a "vulnerable" hand.
And, answering your question (and the others), i lead turn precisely thinking to charge FD's and others draws, aces, worse Jacks, stuff like that... Doesnt makes sense?

And, yeah, i would lead with a FH too... For the same reasons: charge "vulnerable" os speculative hands.

Sorry, but im still in doubt with any questions...

Tx a lot all
AA should really be a call rather than a shove because what worse hand calls the shove when holding AA? Or do you think villain turns AA into a bluff here? I would think it's too strong to turn into a bluff.

More likely 88,99,J8,J9.

If you are leading with some full houses here then all good It looks like you're betting because you're scared of another spade so it could definitely induce action.
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