E4E6, your stats look pretty gross. the gap between your vpip and pfr is huge right now. typically, you want those as close to each other as possible. youre limping way too much, even from utg which is not ideal. you usually never want to open limp anything in any position.

Maybe open up your range more on the button and CO and look to cbet more flops. Whats your steal %?

Hey guys. Just got HEM. Fairly eye opening. I know it is give and take but I would likely not be able to contribute much at this point. I'm guessing these stats expose some serious leaks anyhow. The non-showdown winnings is massive... should it be anywhere near that bad? Any help appreciated, thanks

@drsmooth:

I'm no 6-max player but as a 25NL FR player I think you mainly need to work on your aggression. Even for FR this would be a low AF but for 6max that means even more problems... This also explain the non-showdown losses I think.

It's not weird at all to have them below 0 (especially at the lower limits) but this could be a leak. Also, perhaps tighten up a bit? (I have no idea how these stats should be in 6-max, but if you play many hands and tend to play them very passively I can imagine this would cost you quite a bit...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I play NL10, I think my following leaks are calling 3-4x bb raises preflop with any PP. Also I don't know what to do pf in raised pots with premium hands. Do I raise? call? I probably fish too much, however I take down alot of 30, 40 cent pots with a simple pot sized bet on the flop.

can somebody take a look at my position stats and tell me where I need to loosen/tighten up? I feel like I'm having a problem here.

Hello guys,

I play NL50 and over the first two months (40k hands) I won about 8PTBB/100, but over the last 40k hands I only won about 1 PTBB/100. Some of the losses are clearly due to bad play/tilt I must admit, because (as everyone) I suffered horrible streaks of coolers/bad beats. Discipline is one issue. But besides, there may be other leaks I am not aware of.

Help is highly appreciated and I already profited much from studying this great thread. Here are my stats:

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My own thoughts from what I have learned here:

1. I cold call too much.
2. My W$SD could be better. As my River Call Win% is only 37% it seems that I don't fold the second best hands often enough.
3. It seems that I play way to much out of the SB.
4. My VPIP is 24 and my PFR is 14. Many good TAGs here have a bigger ratio of these values and PFR more. I think I limp/CC more because with semi-good hands I don't like to 3bet/openraise against very loose calling stations. My idea is to see more flops and outplay them, but this doesn't seem to work obviously. So I need to tighten up a bit I guess.

What do you see? What is good and what is bad?



And finally: Can somebody explain the graph? I don't understand the All-in EV line, what is that exactly about and what does it say in my case?
Pokey said that his "Non-Showdown Winnings" are bigger than the showdown winnings. Is the something like a "good" relation of the two values?

Thanks!

I've installed PT3 on my Mac (through Wine) today, still new to this.
Thanks for your comments !
NL10 6max - Pokerstars
Overall :

Only September (i tightened my game after the "huge" downswing at the end of august) :

Lunatic
Way tighter in SB
3-bet less in MP (prolly)

Thanks, not sure what you mean by lunatic though...

I was making the comment to Lunatic (2 posts above you)

thanks, will try to work on that

Hey guys, just started using HEM instead of PT3, can someone explain exactly what 'Allin ev' means on the graphs.

I assume it is where we would be at if we ran at expectation allin, but every graph i see posted allin ev is above actual winnings. Is there a reason for this or is it just that everyone who posts a graph is moaning about how bad they run?

ah ok, because, well... i AM a bit of a lunatic, but was wondering how you figured out from my PT stats

I'm getting a bit more familiar with those stats, it's kinda obv now that i'm bleeding money at the SB...

Any other thoughts (stats few posts above) ?

LeChiffre, A couple simple adjustments....

1. First go back to the Button range you used previously. There's no need to tighten up there. A ratio some players use regarding opening ranges is to have Button open range 1.5x or 2x as large as UTG range. Your old Button range and new UTG range should get you close.
2. Tighten up in the blinds. You don't need to defend so much. You are doing mostly fine in all positions, except you have a monster leak in the SB. That's where you need to tighten up a lot. There's no way your VPIP and PFR should be higher in the SB than the Button. You want most of your money going in the pot when you're in position, not the worst position possible.

That should get you back on the winning track.

Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance!

Well I think your losing to much in non-showdown pots, so maybe bluff a little less. At this level you need to have a fairly solid read to ever 2x and 3x barrel these players because their simply less prone to fold. Your C Bet Flop is a hair on the low side,, so unless the board is particularly scary, just fire. I usually bet somewhere from 1\2 to 3\4 depending on that players Fold to C Bet stat. You should definitely tighten up from the small blind, 19 is way to high, this is where I think people tend to lose the most, this is where I was losing the most a little while back. Your always OOP and your usually just completing and folding so thats spewing money, I mostly defend with {Axs+, 22+, KJs+, KQo, and SC} everything else is sorta bad here, possibly add suited one gapers if you feel comfortable with your post flop play.

I'm playing at the same stakes as you and trying to move up, I hope that this helps you.

Thoughts on graph

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It does seem pretty swingy to me, but if you'll post some stats. I might be able to help you out .

Just wanna bump the thread.. My nasty downswing of about 15BI continues now... How can I tell bad play from bad luck?

This was my post (one page above) http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...ml#post6012527

Is the ALL-In EV Graph of interest to determine that? I don't understand this one since it says that I run above expectation?? This is impossible (at least it seems to me).

Would be great if someone would comment on my stats.. Thanks!

No expert and I may be harsh, don't take it personally - end disclaimer.

You're running hot overall (if you were running at expectation, you'd be down ~$100, so you're running ~$500 above expectation), and only at expectation during this latest downswing, so it may seem like your running bad in comparison. You could also be running into the top of villain's range.

Your VPIP/PFR is pretty bad, you should never be open limping in a 6max game, and generally not limping behind that often. You should be 3betting or folding more to opens in front of you rather than cold calling.

Use position more, your VPIP is pretty flat. Tighten up UTG and loosen up CO/BUT.

No offense, but you may not be a long term winner with these stats, and probably won't be at higher levels (I'm play NL25 and NL50 but from what I've heard this is the case). I'd move down to NL25 and rework your game a bit.

Tilt less? Nice graph otherwise.

50NL 6max (mostly 5 to 6 handed.)



My personal thoughts: I'm probably too loose and aggressive overall, and need to reign it in abit.

I find that a lot of the good tables are very tight passive, and frequent blind stealing in position is very profitable. Playing position with the upper tier of these hands from button/CO against another light raiser is also profitable. Against a very soft table I can hit 40/25/2. Against tougher tables I'm closer to 20/15/3.

Thanks for your opinion and you are certainly right with your suggestions about limping, and tightening up in IP. But I cannot believe that the ALL-in EV line can be interpreted as you did it.

Here is my overall graph of almost 100k hands NL50 and a about 3k hands NL100. I admit, I have a downswing recently, but does this graph looks like I should move down to NL25? Either there is something wrong with the EV line or I am the biggest luckbox on the planet.

I can not believe that I run more than 2000$ above expectation over almost 100k hands...

What to think of that?