PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 93.2 BB (VPIP: 22.18, PFR: 17.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.54, Hands: 267)
Hero (BTN): 104.2 BB
SB: 91.6 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 117 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 121 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 12.22, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 90)
MP: 118.6 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.4 BB, Hero calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 2 8 3
BB bets 9.2 BB, Hero calls 9.2 BB

Turn: (37.6 BB, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 51 BB, fold

OTT I bet to protect misself from overcards. But i'm starting to doubt that it was right.

Over cards have very small amount of equity vs this hand 8 %

Yeah, but 12 cards in the deck put an overcard on the board that will force me to fold to any aggression and 9 cards put a 4 flush on the board that will force me to call unless he bombs the river, even though he will mostly have better flushes. So about 2/5 of the deck is bad for me.

If he is folding 75% of the time to my bet, i'm pretty sure it is right to take the aggressive line. The problem is that I am not sure if he is folding often enough.

Hey

your TT does good as c/c over all streats. If you give him a 6% range to 3bet you were still 55/45 ahead on the turn.

after he c/r you have a bluffcatcher at best. I think that JJ+ will only call you down after you represented the flush. Due to the low board we can rule out any sets. In my opinion he has only 3 reasonable hands for value: AsQs, AsKs and As5s as a light 3bet hand. But he has lots of AsX bluffs in this spot.

As you know nothing about Villain this is a fold. If you have the feeling that he is too agressive you might consider calling.

Disclaimer: I am a starting player and want to improve my game by contributing to threads like this. I am by no means a poker expert. So I am as much interested in your feedback to my thought process than you might be in my answer. I hope it helps and wish you good luck - also english is my second language Smile

The thing is, on that turn you are borderline capped, since it is unlikely you would flat the flop with a 2pair/set or a nfd. So, when you bet the turn you are saying "i was drawing and I got there" when in fact you have a creaky overpair, that had showdown value.

So, you were capped on the flop, got weaker on the turn, and were really bluffing on the turn, with a hand from your value range that should have checked.

Then, on the river you get to either checkback and showdown or play bluffcatcher.

Not a simple river scenario, but would cost less and make more sense strategically.

I dont know how are we capped on this turn its pretty hard to come with any bluffs.
Dont fold on every over card otr.
If you bet all weak over pairs he can just c/r like carzy.
If you really want to bet bet sometthing small like 10BB

Well, we can not reasonably have the nuts on the turn.

We could reasonably have a decent flush on the turn. But we don't, so we are bluffing when we bet.

Once we flat call a half pot bet on the flop, we should not have sets or the nut flush draw. That leaves 2 pair combos and baby flush draws with maybe a gutterball. It is really unlikely for hero to have the nuts on the turn, or anything strong except the flush. We flatted pre, flatted flop, so unless hero is in the habit of flat calling big suited aces pre and on the flop, hero is capped on the turn, especially if villain holds the Ace of spades. Villain could have just the naked As, and play this way picking up a nfd on the turn. Or Villain could have AA with As. Either way we are taking our value hand and turning it into a bluff, with a bet on the turn, which is not the best or the worst, unless villain checkraises the flush card. Then we are toast, and don't get a chance for a free river flush, which may have given us the pot versus a weirdly played set/2pair from villain.

Having to fold the turn, after betting the turn, with an overpair and a backdoor flush draw is a disaster. (Fold is still correct unless villain is both aggro and balanced.)

Villains range has all kinds of nutty goodness in this hand, the check on the turn should seem fishy.

If Hero did possibly have the nut flush on the turn, then a bet on the turn only gets action from sets and smaller flushes, so a checkback on the turn, even if we had the nuts would be fine, that is the position advantage.

what?

so what you're basically saying is you can't have the nuts whenever you flat this flop. good to know for your opponents

I just overfold here and feel good

Correct. I will flat call a half pot bet with top set or the nfd on this board zero percent of the time in NL5.

Probably a surprise to like zero opponents.

Cheers.

you forgot to add a footnote indicating your advice only pertains to 5nl

Why did you call pre-flop. Just raise, easy profit, simple line, happy days.

You called, which isn't the worst play in the world... But then, when he's nice enough to check the turn, why the hell did you bet!! Should have just taken the opportunity to keep this pot small. We have a bag of ****e. Our hand is always gong to be a bag of ****e. Just keep that pot small.

Are you going to 4b/stackoff with TT here 100% time vs unknown?