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Good read.

Even though at times hands like AQ or TT may be marginal to 3-bet against a villains range, I don't think its that black and white. You need to take into account the EV you gain as your image becomes looser. I'm 3-betting TT and JJ almost 100% of the time. I'm almost always 3-betting AQ in position to 1 raiser as well.

If you only 3-bet AA-QQ/AK etc, your 3-betting range will become very transparent.

Also, I'm usually folding small PP's to button raisers in the blinds. Our implied odds are crap due to their range being so wide.

From the blinds to a button position raiser, I'm 3-betting almost any PP 89s+ QJo+

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02-06-2008 , 04:53 PM

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fees

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haha yeah i agree, Im not sure what this will play but I felt like you really thought it was hugely important about the tightness prf

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02-06-2008 , 05:37 PM

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orig!naL

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What I should have said is, I'm either folding small PP's to late position raisers or 3-betting them. I'm never calling a late position raiser with 44 etc as my implied odds become bad due to the huge range they have in the CO or button.

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02-06-2008 , 07:30 PM

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fees:
Avatar, who is it?

Will read later, from the brief squint I had it looked good

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02-06-2008 , 08:11 PM

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Dsquarednl

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PURE gold. Thanks.

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02-06-2008 , 09:55 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuTLpOL2l28

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02-06-2008 , 10:14 PM

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_dave_

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awesome. pls continue to write book

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02-08-2008 , 09:22 PM

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shyturtle27

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Wow...glad I started lurking uNL again. This post is freaking awesome, fees! Please write the rest!

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02-08-2008 , 10:28 PM

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choccypie

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No idea how I managed to miss this, really good stuff!

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02-08-2008 , 11:11 PM

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Dilznoofus

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Just getting started reading this but wanna say thanks for doing this.

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02-09-2008 , 02:46 PM

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Jetrobak

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Great stuff. Really easy to understand the concepts yet so much is covered in a small space. I can only echo the sentiments of others and hope you finish writing it up.

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02-09-2008 , 03:06 PM

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fozzy71

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Thx Fees. I am half way through it, and plan on reading it more than once. Would love to see the rest someday.

Nice avatar, btw.

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fees:
Avatar, who made it for you?

Fozzy, ldo.

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02-09-2008 , 03:26 PM

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fiaca

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Originally Posted by fees

simon; I play looser at MSNL, but this is like a starting place for most people so they can get comfortable and then add in more hands. Or in other words if I had to go back one year ago and design my game, this is how I would start

looks like this will be great for me then, thanks for writing this.

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02-09-2008 , 06:09 PM

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Albert Moulton

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You sir, are my hero.

I added this to the Master Sticky.

Thanks for adding this to the sticky. Right now it's tl;dr, but I review the Master Sticky from time to time and I'll get back to this later.

It looks really good.

And thanks to the the OP for posting. And while I haven't read it all yet, I see the response has been quite positive. You should finish the rest when you have time.

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02-12-2008 , 11:46 PM

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allinonadraw

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Just finished reading this, thanks again. The stuff on 3betting has already helped my game out a lot.

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02-17-2008 , 12:20 AM

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Vinny80

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Amazing work. This has great content. I really encourage you to continue if you find some time, because I'm almost done reading and it's always interesting to see what others online players think about our game. Keep it up!

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02-17-2008 , 12:35 AM

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OSUGreg1983

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thanks good read solid stuff, more than makes up for not writing anything previously

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02-17-2008 , 08:50 AM

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thanks good read solid stuff, more than makes up for not writing anything previously

yes! made up for lost time=P

FWIW Im finishing it now, I plan to get it done by March 1st. Wish me luck

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02-17-2008 , 09:24 AM

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Gelford

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Originally Posted by fees

yes! made up for lost time=P

FWIW Im finishing it now, I plan to get it done by March 1st. Wish me luck

We wish you luck

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02-17-2008 , 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fees

yes! made up for lost time=P

FWIW Im finishing it now, I plan to get it done by March 1st. Wish me luck

wonderful news

many thanks to you

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02-22-2008 , 02:03 PM

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EyeJackit

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Nice job Fees.

Put me down for an advanced order.

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02-22-2008 , 04:33 PM

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squeezing and donking would be 2 additions I would make

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02-22-2008 , 04:46 PM

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Chomp

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Great post Fees, can't believe I missed it first time. Look forward to digesting it and to reading more.

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02-22-2008 , 05:02 PM

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DeathbySuckout

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Thanks for this post Fees. I printed it out and have read through it twice now. It's a big help to my game right now.
Anxiously awaiting more.

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02-22-2008 , 10:24 PM

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jdaman

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Great post, very informative!

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