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10nlz - Barrel Turn & River? 10nlz - Barrel Turn & River?

05-21-2017 , 03:22 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37730524

    BTN: $16.95 (169.5 bb)
    SB: $16.66 (166.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $21.99 (219.9 bb)
    UTG: $18.65 (186.5 bb)
    MP: $12.71 (127.1 bb)
    CO: $4.19 (41.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T A
    UTG raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.65) J 3 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    Turn: ($0.65) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.37, UTG calls $0.37

    River: ($1.39) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero folds




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    vs unk, this seems bad as if I bet turn I think we should bet river esp as this is a good bluff combo as we don't block any draws, have blockers to jx. should I barrel this on turn and river or try and just showdown
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    05-21-2017 , 03:33 PM
    Check turn and try to showdown.
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    05-21-2017 , 03:47 PM
    when V checks back flop that hits his range as the pre-flop aggressor it usually screams some form of SDV (10J, AJ, 99, 88 etc.) I suggest you either check down (turn+river) / check fold, or bet turn, barrel a lot of rivers.
    Betting the turn and checking river in this spot is awful, as he's shown he has some form of SDV, meaning he is likely to call one bet (but that many of his hand's may not be able to withstand 2 bets).
    I really don't mind either, betting turn, barreling rivers is fine w/ decent blockers and a clean runout, checking down w/ your SDV and sometimes winning the pot is also completely fine - you decide!
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    05-22-2017 , 09:51 AM
    Bet river as well you block his QT AJ combos which are his most likely hands to check flop call turn and river and you dont block diamonds or harts.Your hand dont have any SDV
    AP-Its close to calling river you dont play many pairs like this and you dont have many AK so this is pretty high up in your range
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    05-22-2017 , 10:29 AM
    You could overbet turn or check raise turn but your going to need to bluff river. When he calls your turn bet he's going to have something that you will need to bluff off as he's not checking flop w/ T9.

    I think checking down w/ A high is the best.
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    05-22-2017 , 01:53 PM
    Prefer to try and showdown here but betting larger OTT and def. barrelling this river if we're going to bluff.
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    05-23-2017 , 01:52 PM
    i 3b pre

    is my default to bet any turn except a ten prolly in this situation
    looks like vill has AJ
    I like the bet sizing ott and the fold otr
    if i was to barrel river i would make the turn bet close to pot to maximize profits on my bluff or when i hit a king

    AP WP

    glgl

    Last edited by ARCANGEL0; 05-23-2017 at 01:57 PM.
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    05-23-2017 , 01:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ARCANGEL0
    i 3b pre

    is my default to bet any turn except a ten prolly in this situation
    looks like vill has AJ
    I like the bet sizing ott and the fold otr
    if i was to barrel river i would make the turn bet close to pot to maximize profits on my bluff or when i hit a king

    AP WP

    glgl
    Your 3-betting A10s from the BB (closing the action) vs an UTG raise? Is this for value or as a bluff? Just wondering as I don't think we fold out much better, and we don't seem to be getting called by much worse in this spot.
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    05-23-2017 , 02:27 PM
    Your 3-betting A10s from the BB (closing the action) vs an UTG raise?> yes
    Is this for value or as a bluff? bluff
    Just wondering as I don't think we fold out much better> No we don-t but i rather be the aggro in the hand, put him on a spot to make a mistake (fold AJ and 55-22 maybe)
    call with KQs, QJs, JTs + reducing his positional advantage.

    glgl
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    05-23-2017 , 02:34 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ARCANGEL0
    Your 3-betting A10s from the BB (closing the action) vs an UTG raise?> yes
    Is this for value or as a bluff? bluff
    Just wondering as I don't think we fold out much better> No we don-t but i rather be the aggro in the hand, put him on a spot to make a mistake (fold AJ and 55-22 maybe)
    call with KQs, QJs, JTs + reducing his positional advantage.

    glgl
    Certainly decent points, I just definitely prefer taking flops w/ this hand vs UTG range.
    We can get 4b somewhat frequently (meaning we lose 10 BB's or whatever we put in as our 3b).
    We are also playing a bigger pot OOP vs a flat.
    Sure we can fold out 22-55 (maybe even up to 99 dependent on V), but those hands only had like a 5% edge on us anyway + they are hard to play post flop (meaning we can exploit his weak plays when over-cards flop etc.)
    Also we are 'fairly' often going to be dominated when V does decide to take flops (meaning we have pretty bad rev impl odds on A high boards).
    My main argument is that I don't see why we need to turn such a strong hand w/ decent potential into a bluff pre.
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