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08-17-2017 , 09:53 AM

Mickhugz

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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37811404

Hero (BTN): $12.47 (249.4 bb)
SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.18 (103.6 bb)
UTG: $4.76 (95.2 bb)
MP: $10.75 (215 bb)
CO: $6.52 (130.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.07) K

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.07) 9

(2 players)
CO bets $0.58, Hero raises to $1.76, CO calls $1.18

River: ($4.59) 3

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $5.94, CO calls $4.26 and is all-in

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08-17-2017 , 09:57 AM

Rikk

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If you're 3betting with 56s we need to be betting this flop imo.

Turn and River fine AP

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08-17-2017 , 10:00 AM

Mickhugz

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Originally Posted by Rikk

If you're 3betting with 56s we need to be betting this flop imo.

Turn and River fine AP

I Agree, a lot of times I am betting this flop but try to add some balance sometimes.

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08-17-2017 , 10:07 AM

Bladesman87

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How does checking a hand with absolutely no showdown value add balance?

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08-17-2017 , 10:11 AM

Mickhugz

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87

How does checking a hand with absolutely no showdown value add balance?

Not going to bet all my flush draws 100% of the time? Balancing my bluffs? What do you want me to say

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08-17-2017 , 10:19 AM

Bladesman87

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Balancing at 5nl is already fairly pointless, and this is a board you should be betting a hell of a lot anyway, but if you want to check some draws don't pick ones that have absolutely no showdown value.

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08-17-2017 , 10:21 AM

JSeiff

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Originally Posted by Mickhugz

Not going to bet all my flush draws 100% of the time? Balancing my bluffs? What do you want me to say

Add more Value Combos if you feel unbalanced. Regarding 2nd pairs

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08-17-2017 , 11:11 AM

James Worthy

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87

this

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08-17-2017 , 01:59 PM

jaypatel33

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If you 3bet this hand and get this flop, we should be cbetting. I don't think you need to concern yourself with balance at these stakes.

When we hit OTT, I think the raise is close. he flatted our 3bet. So shouldn't have QQ/KK/AK. So that's 9combos of KQ, but he can several combos of AcXc.

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08-17-2017 , 02:18 PM

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JamesBJames

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PF's pretty close between folding and 3-betting, and I think either option is defensible.

Absolutely have to bet flop on this texture IMO. A KQ3 board is fantastic for our range because we can have QQ, KK, AA, AK, KQ, and our opponent is really unlikely to have any of those hands sans the 2 KQs combos. I probably double barrel any non-Q / non-K turn (but even those are pretty close because a bet doesn't really have to work that often).

We probably should have some flush combos in our flop checkback range, but like everyone else has said we would like those to have a modicum of showdown value. AQcc, AJcc, ATcc, QJcc, QTcc, etc.

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08-17-2017 , 03:10 PM

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James Worthy

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James, why isn't flatting an option?

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