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Old 05-17-2017, 05:44 PM   #1
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5nl line check

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37727059

BTN: $5 (100 bb)
SB: $5.51 (110.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $6.43 (128.6 bb)
UTG: $6.03 (120.6 bb)
MP: $4.45 (89 bb)
CO: $6 (120 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 8
UTG raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) J 4 8 (4 players)
Hero bets $0.44, 2 folds, CO calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.50) T (2 players)
Hero bets $1, CO raises to $2.35, Hero calls $1.35

River: ($6.20) T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.49,
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:30 PM   #2
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Re: 5nl line check

Depending on Villains, I sometimes like the donk bet (as we don't want to give a free turn card), other times I wouldn't.

Turn I like.

I would bet bigger on the river, we are getting looked up by straights and Tx and maybe even Jx here. If we has JT then life sucks.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:26 PM   #3
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Re: 5nl line check

Id bet bigger OTT, looking forward to get the river PS enough to shove it.

I like more the idea of bet/shove OTT, villian is shutting down on several river cards and I also see too many worse combos ready to call down there...

AP leading is ok, however if hes going to make the mistake of calling with a worse hand there, its better to charge him for that mistake as much as we can so GII the whole stack is a better plan imo...
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:50 AM   #4
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Depending on Villains, I sometimes like the donk bet (as we don't want to give a free turn card), other times I wouldn't.

Turn I like.

I would bet bigger on the river, we are getting looked up by straights and Tx and maybe even Jx here. If we has JT then life sucks.
Just to let you and mchares know, the river was a shove in relation to the effective stacks. Yeh I decided to lead river to extract value from his Q9 (straight's), and diamonds, as I feel he can practice pot control and check back rivers w/ these hands on the paired board. And often when I just check to him he's only betting better (J10 etc.) Thanks for the input
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:33 AM   #5
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Re: 5nl line check

Donking OTF is fine, problem is to balance we need to bet with our bluffs too with is likely to be -EV multiway. Strategy wise, I think a x/r is better but at 5NL donking is okay.

Shoving turn is best, we get called by a lot worse and deny villain realising their equity on nasty rivers
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:41 AM   #6
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Donking OTF is fine, problem is to balance we need to bet with our bluffs too with is likely to be -EV multiway. Strategy wise, I think a x/r is better but at 5NL donking is okay.

Shoving turn is best, we get called by a lot worse and deny villain realising their equity on nasty rivers
solid advise, you bring up some good points - cheers
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:59 AM   #7
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Re: 5nl line check

I don't mind the flop donk and don't think we need to worry too much about balancing in this spot.

AP easy shove turn. Why give V a chance to fold his missed dia draws OTR?
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:04 PM   #8
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I prefer shoving OTT and prevent him from getting his equity for his draws.

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Old 05-18-2017, 02:09 PM   #9
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I don't mind the flop donk and don't think we need to worry too much about balancing in this spot.

AP easy shove turn. Why give V a chance to fold his missed dia draws OTR?
Yeh, think I agree w/ shoving turn
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