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Old 05-19-2017, 02:07 PM   #1
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2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

Hand1
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
SB: $3.05 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 24, 3B: 7, AF: 1,3, Hands: 84
BB: $3.12 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,6, Hands: 47
Hero (UTG): $2.01
MP: $2.73 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1,7, Hands: 85
CO: $1.11 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 4,4, Hands: 74
BTN: $2.73 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 24, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 21

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $0.06, 4 folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 8 2 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.29) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.29) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks


Hand2
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
BB: $2.18 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 39
UTG: $2.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 8,0, Hands: 71
Hero (CO): $2.07
BTN: $2.28 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0,4, Hands: 38
SB: $0.72 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 33

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with T A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) J 2 A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.11, BTN calls $0.11

Turn: ($0.37) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.37) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18


Would you play these hands any different?
Please tell me how and why.
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:38 PM   #2
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

One hand per thread.
H1, I'd check this flop, rest is food.

H2, bet river, want to get value from Jx and Ax that would otherwise check back.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:20 PM   #3
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

Both hands are x/c flop.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:28 PM   #4
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

Agree with x/c flop in both hands but h2 i dont mind a bet either

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Old 05-19-2017, 07:58 PM   #5
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

Hand 2 vs fish im getting 3 streets of value, but his stats are not that fishy
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:02 AM   #6
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

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H1, I'd check this flop, rest is food.
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Both hands are x/c flop.
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Agree with x/c flop in both hands but h2 i dont mind a bet either
Why are we checking the flop? We are IP, the preflop raiser, vs fish who calls a lot preflop, so he will miss a lot of flops. The fish is passive. I thought all this was standard for a c-bet. I know it's not a monsterhand, but vs a fish this still seems like a good hand.
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Old 05-20-2017, 04:56 AM   #7
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

H1 you have 2nd pair OTF. Youre not getting 3 streets from worse. I think its better to x flop and not own yourself when V has Qx.

Likewise with H2...youre not going 3 streets even vs a fish imo. And as someone else said that V doesnt look particularly fishy.

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Old 05-20-2017, 05:13 AM   #8
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Re: 2NL - Mediocre hands vs fish.

None of the hands can get 3streets value. Both are rather safe. Such hands are candidates for bluffcatch, defend our flop range against stabs.
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