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07-27-2017 , 04:56 PM

bharrison

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37800106

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
SB: $11.40 (114 bb)
BB: $11 (110 bb)
UTG: $33.67 (336.7 bb)
MP: $29.42 (294.2 bb)
CO: $5.60 (56 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.10) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $1.33, Hero calls $1.33

River: ($4.76) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.67 and is all-in, [color="grey" [/color]

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don't think villain will play Qx like this and we have a tonne of Qx, think we are only betting fh's and Qx otr and the board bricked so we are polar. is jamming ok with my betting range otr?

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07-27-2017 , 05:24 PM

Renekton

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What bluffs do you have here? Shoving seems like it lets him fold correctly.

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07-27-2017 , 05:30 PM

Vleer

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Well played. Looks fine to me. Would definately go AI on river. Not a high chance that villain would call with an underpair because he thinks you missed your flush, but if he does the extra high bet is nice.

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07-27-2017 , 06:00 PM

bharrison

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Originally Posted by Renekton

What bluffs do you have here? Shoving seems like it lets him fold correctly.

I know what u mean but I think with our value betting range being so polar and condensed and with Qx pretty much being the nuts I think we have to jam anyway.

also the same thing would still apply with like 1/2 sizing otr, what bluffs would I have then?

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07-27-2017 , 06:17 PM

Bladesman87

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The idea is that when you size smaller villain doesn't need you to bluff as often because he's getting a better price to call.

From an exploit pov I think his range is mostly going to be weak Ax and whatever random pairs/air he doesn't c-bet. Against that you should bet however much you think A4 would call. It's hard to hate jamming against 10nl players that much because they're all capable of making a bad call, but I think some players will happily fold 100%.

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07-27-2017 , 06:37 PM

Haizemberg93

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I think V should check a lot when middle pair pairs otr,so he should have AA AQ maybe 88,so imo if dose play like that we should use smaller sizing with this combo.
As exploit he probably caped his range to AK so your hand is pretty nutted we have missed flush draws and we can turn weakest Ax into bluff to balance our value.I would use smaller sizing.

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07-28-2017 , 06:19 AM

ALongmuir

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87

+1. I also agree with Haiz, turning our weakest Ax here or some underpairs into bluffs would be a nice play, not sure we have enough though to balance an overbet though.

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07-28-2017 , 06:34 AM

Renekton

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I didn't think about using weak Ax but it makes sense. Pretty much any hand that's not trips can be a good shove on this board. I think separating value and bluffs is going to maximize profit on this board. Maybe bet a little under pot with our value hands and shove anything that's weak like A2s,98s.

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07-28-2017 , 06:37 AM

Bladesman87

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I think any Ax has too much showdown value to bluff with. The answer I'd guess is to check back some hands on the flop that can still float turn if villain isn't folding it too much after he checks.

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07-28-2017 , 06:43 AM

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Renekton

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Our weak Ax hands are splitting the pot with his weak Ax hands though. He may also have some stronger AcXc hands that are beating us. If we can make those fold isn't shoving more profitable?

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07-28-2017 , 06:51 AM

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Bladesman87

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He can play some AT/AJ this way maybe. You also win the pot on the river vs. some random stabs.

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07-28-2017 , 08:13 AM

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Haizemberg93

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I miss read HH just bluff with 89s 8Js 8Ts 99 TT you have enough bluffs

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