Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Other Topics > Student Life

Notices

Student Life Discussion on student issues and life, both in and out of the classroom.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-22-2010, 10:59 AM   #76
adept
 
Skitz0Frenik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 827
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hlacheen View Post
What's with State College landlords blowing so bad? I use ARPM and they are horrendous. I had a leak in my bathroom ceiling where a toilet from another apartment was leaking and urine got all over my bathoom and kitchen floors. I told them it needed to be professionally cleaned and they sent a maintenance guy with paper towels and windex.

Who is the school legal counsel you use? I'm sure they will try to take my deposit as well.

Lol yeah the only decent experience we've had was with A&W Sons who rent out the Diplomat, Beaver Hill etc. That place included utilities, they'd fix stuff without hassle, and gave back deposits as long as the place was in reasonable condition.

The legal counsel we are using is under the Penn State Legal Services department for students... we went through this to set up an appointment:

http://studentaffairs.psu.edu/legalservices/
Skitz0Frenik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 11:02 AM   #77
adept
 
Skitz0Frenik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 827
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karak View Post
I just assumed any attorney in this case would either be working on contingency or pro bono (or on the school's dime as part of some legal aid program).
UPDATE: Meeting with attorney set for tomorrow (Thursday). My friends still at school are going since they are students and I'm far away... it appears that this is pro bono or part of the school's services which is great. If we do end up getting billed I think it'll be minimal, but free sure this is all going to be free. I can't believe how much we all despise this landlord - he's like a really, really stupid and fat version of the devil. Will keep you all updated
Skitz0Frenik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 07:26 PM   #78
ELIte
 
Karak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 53,721
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Try to get in on the meeting via conference call. Would love to know what the attorney says. GL to you.

And yeah the attorneys have to be very up front and honest about any possible charges or fees. If the school is acting on your behalf or this is pro-bono, I'm sure they'll make that quite clear.

Good for you man. Keep fighting the good fight here.
Karak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #79
banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 467
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

I should have hired you (OP) to go after my landlord. I was too lazy (prolly the reason why most landlords pull this stuff - cause most kids won't fight it) and didn't fight the security deposit at all. he charged us for all kinds of stupid **** and kept every cent of the $840 deposit (2 people in small 2br apartment).
fire_sqaud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 01:45 PM   #80
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
crackedquads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 2nd best in sttf
Posts: 11,287
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Had a landlord try to charge my ex for a whole bunch of **** like this after I had already moved on and removed my name from the lease. Hope this guy gets what's coming to him, gl op.
crackedquads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 02:34 PM   #81
adept
 
Skitz0Frenik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 827
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Conference call should take place within the next few minutes, I'll post a summary... reallllllly hoping he'll have positive things to say about or case
Skitz0Frenik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 05:34 PM   #82
adept
 
Skitz0Frenik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 827
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

UPDATE: HAD FIRST MEETING WITH LAWYER

Had a conference call with the lawyer and friends still at school (in her office with her at the time of the call). She is working for free and is in charge of the student legal services department at our school. She said she can keep working for free for the three of us that are still in school, but the other nine need other representation. She will bring in someone she trusts at a discounted rate so it doesn't get very expensive.

We went over each item on the bill and figured out what we have ample evidence for and what we don't. She had me draft a short letter to the landlord requesting invoices for all work done and supplies used. She in the meantime is drafting a "demand letter" that will be signed by all 12 of us. She is also contacting the appropriate health/housing code authorities and filing complaints on the landlord.

Things look good - she was extremely helpful over the phone and sounds like she genuinely believes we are doing the right thing. Even if we have to pay for the additional lawyer I think all 12 of us will split it and it'll end up saving us a ton of money down the road (assuming things go as we're hoping).

Best case is we get all our money back and the landlord gets in trouble as he should.

Middle case is we don't get our security deposits back, pay nothing more, and landlord gets stern warning/bad publicity.

Worst case is we lose the case, pay the lawyer and each owe the additional money (seems really unlikely)



Thoughts?
Skitz0Frenik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 06:30 PM   #83
 
goofyballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Searching for my Canuck soulmate
Posts: 40,253
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Props for standing up for yourselves. For shady landlords like this, thinking they're preying on unsuspecting kids and then getting lawyers thrown at them is probably their worst nightmare. I hope he gets what he deserves.
goofyballer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 06:32 PM   #84
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
crackedquads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 2nd best in sttf
Posts: 11,287
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

I'd say you're in pretty good shape here. You expected this was coming and had the chance to take action before it hit you. Your case is at least reasonable enough to proceed down the road. My guess is the landlord will be backing down about this bill quite quickly once he gets hit with a couple certified letters.
crackedquads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 06:40 PM   #85
ELIte
 
Karak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 53,721
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

A lawyer is going to terrify the landlord. I'd expect him to fold pretty quick
Karak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 07:23 PM   #86
adept
 
hlacheen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,052
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Yea, as with many situations in life, the mere presence of a lawyer scares people.
hlacheen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #87
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Craggoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: R.I.P. ItzPenzoo 12-09-11
Posts: 9,375
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

5 days and no update? Way to leave us hanging OP
Craggoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2010, 09:04 PM   #88
adept
 
Skitz0Frenik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 827
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craggoo View Post
5 days and no update? Way to leave us hanging OP
We sent him the letter requesting invoices/receipts and are waiting for a response.
Skitz0Frenik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2010, 10:34 PM   #89
old hand
 
br3nt00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: self-banned. gl all
Posts: 1,802
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

i would do some cool hand history where like skitz0frenik has like [lawyer of hearts] [lawyer of clubs] and the landlord has like [fatass] [i suck]












but im too lazy.
gl op
br3nt00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 12:45 PM   #90
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Craggoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: R.I.P. ItzPenzoo 12-09-11
Posts: 9,375
Re: Help: Slumlord about to steal $6000 in security deposits plus a lot more (in PA)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skitz0Frenik View Post
We sent him the letter requesting invoices/receipts and are waiting for a response.
fwiw, if its taking these slumlords more than 5 days to respond it sounds like they aren't taking your threats seriously and its time to step up your game
Craggoo is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive