I would just like to state that these situations can actually be helpful and help you with your "game". This even though seems like a hard task, is fairly easy to win her over. But before I give you advice on how to do this I would suggest that you make sure you like this girl. If she is hanging out with another guy and keen to hang out with you as well, she could be a tease, just looking for sex (not always a bad thing), or a flake with drama. So find out what kind of girl she is first then let us know if you wish to pursue her.

Yes as stated earlier do not say "more than welcome to come". By saying that you don't make it a yes or no situation. You are making entirely up to her. If you say "We are having a pre-game before you the party, you and your friends should come". By saying "should come" you make it a yes or no answer and she is more likely to say yes.

Drinking is never an uncomfortable situation unless you have no alchool or some really crappy stuff. If one of my freinds who was a female said she wanted to go to some kids house to pre-game before a concert I would think for all of 3 seconds before asking if it was free then saying yes free pre-game ftw.

If you don't pre-game with her the chances of seeing her at the concert and having her grind on you all night are zero. Yes zero. there is no way you will ever find her in a crowd of 2,000 students.

Pre-gaming was the best drinking invention ever. Senior year we started pre-gaming presentations/class. Presentations are actually awesome, I never felt so confident in front of the whole class.

i took a bs summer class and pregamed before my presentation. didnt get hammered, but that awesome buzz you get where everything in the world seems good. i stuttered a few times, but my timing was perfect and delivery was on point. cant recommend it enough.

This.

i think my thing is pretty much over.
ill give you the ending.
texted her about class tomorrow.
she texts back.
i say holy **** english class then girltalk tomorrow such a great day
and nothing back

i can take a sign, unless once again im reading too much into it.
time to redeposit and register for more tournies.
edit: text back. says "yeaa"

Wow, what a bitch. Well if I was you at this point I would just let it go. There are girls that are worth your time. So just let it go, invite someone else to pre-game and get laid. That is my recommendation. Spending more time on this girl is just a waste.

so i saw this hot girl twice today who i was talking about recently in this thread. first time she says hi and smiles as she walks by me. i think "good."

second time i see i sit at her table for dinner tonight. she's almost done her meal, but she doesn't establish eye contact and within 10 secs of me sitting down leaves the table. moreover, she gets a cookie but doesn't rejoin the table and walks out with the cookie. wtf does this mean?

P.S. this isn't the first time she's done something like this. One day when i sat in the seat next to her at lunch, she literally moved her chair away from me (this was a couple days after we flirted heavily one night), but a couple days after that incident where she moved her chair away from me, she went out of her way to sit next to me at lunch.

so basically this is the 2nd time i've gotten conflicting messages, at least as I view it, so i'm pretty confused.

i'm not sure if this matters, but she's really smart (valedictorian of her high school) and kind of a social loner. eg she hangs out mainly with 1 or 2 of her friends and that's it.

also, idk if this explains her behavior, but i've handled it pretty awkwardly in the 2 weeks since i asked her out by acting real awkward and bumbly around her, but i'm not gonna do that **** anymore.

Anyways, what do you make of these new and old developments, does she want to hang out with me/not want to hang out with me?


and btw bambam, i wanna go out with her and even develop a relationship. she's hot and our personalities match well together, and there are very very few girls at my school who are hot and very few who i have good chemistry with.

Why did you even text her about class? Just talk to her after class and say something about pre-gaming.

save yourself the pain. just stop.

actually had a legit question about class. i guess i will ask her about pregaming still, i dont expect a positive response, but after that, im done. i still have a feeling shes kinda like wondering about me, but is just being standoffish about it. but im not gonna really press the issue anymore, she has to have gotten the clue by now.

turnupthesun, i dunno what you mean by save yourself the pain. she's flirted extremely heavily with me (eg leaning her head on my shoulder, laughing at everything i said), but then she's given weird vibes too like i just mentioned

Not really, like 2-3 drinks is pretty standard. Yes, and is the fact she asked really a sign. FWIW we are pretty opposite in our beliefs, apart from a few things (environment, social). But i tend to avoid anything controversial now that i am interested. That being said, what does everyone think about disagreeing with a date on issues?

can't imagine it being a good idea

Good in the fact that she won't see you as a pushover. If she's sorta into you, you can work her emotions by making her angry at you. In the long run, this will be good. Just make sure when you're disagreeing with her, that you're actually making a logical argument.

Ok so is more of a social drinker, not really getting drunk, but not the type to be a stickler for drinking. Yes the fact that she asked you to a party is her pretty much saying "I think you are cute and would love to get to know you" So she is into you, right now you are flying high. I would say don't be like "oh yeah you are right" on every issue. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing but remember to play it cute and be playful when you are talking about issues. Never and I mean NEVER get offended when you are talking with her about issues, keeping it cute and intelligent. Remember three things when talking to her about the issues 1) DO NOT get offended 2) Be charming 3) Keep it intelligent

^^^^ NO this only works on a very specific girl, and you have to know exactly how to make this play and what to do. DO not do this with your girl, unless you know wtf you are doing.

just spoke to an ex gf about my situation.
i was like why was it so easy for me to get you but every other girl is difficult?
shes like cause i was young and naive and thought if i liked a guy i was supposed to show him.
so i asked the obvious question: now if girls like a guy they show interest, and then when they show interest back, they stop showing interest?
and she was like yep, exactly.
she told me to ignore her back and if she is really interested she will let me know.

so thats that.

Yep, just don't worry about it. You have done what you can do and thats all you can do.

Thanks for the advice. I will give a "trip report" in a week or two.

I follow many different threads on 2+2, and I've been following this thread for some time and I have to say that BamBam192 is a poster with the most quality. Thanks you, man.

I lol'ed

Yes, let us know how everything goes. Score one for the home team

Thank you sir!

Also agree with Korlit re BamBam. great advice and keep it up. But i have to ask are you a girl, gay or just awesome with women?

Girls are just like poker imo, some people have a talent, but most have to work their way up. And you play it badly, make mistakes and lose, but then you learn from your mistakes and grow some balls. One day you realize that you can beat this game. Or you just give up and live your simple live. I keep working on my poker game and I can beat it, but girls are just another issue. I don't want to be pathetic, but my heart was broken a few times and now I'm just afraid of any relationship. I mean I'm decent looking, interesting and confident but there's just something wrong about psychology...

i feel like instead of posting hand histories and tough spots ive been updating this thread. o well, poker can wait (break even player ftw)

you post hand histories, the game is just different.

so i never got an answer. girl flirts with me then avoids me. wtf do i make of this?