We banged a year ago, we hooked up a couple other times shortly thereafter. Each time quite drunk.

I've made many other attempts over the past year, both drunk and sober. Always rejects, says no. Most recently a week before her trip she was in my bed. Were spooning. Rubbing her butt. Told her I wanted to eat her out and make her cum. She says stop pissing me off. We go out for food and a drink. Part ways. She messages me later that night saying I'm her best friend.

Shes just really flirty. Don't think she's attracted to me. Anyways that's the story. Don't think im going to say much to her. She knows I want her, she has all the power. Think it's better to just detach and maybe she'll come crawling back.

Part of me thinks she's not terribly attracted to me so doesn't see anything panning out long-term but wouldn't mind fooling around a bit, but she fears if we fool around a bit one of us (me) will become more attached and then she'll put a stop to it all and our friendship will be over. I've basically pieced that together from many of our conversations. So ya, I think the correct play is to just not care any more...or at least give off that impression.

So she's bluntly rejected you many times and you continue to try and hook up with her? As usual, the guy is in the wrong in these situations and blames the girl. Either be friends and stop trying to bang her or cease contact.

ya....but her idea of being friends is stupid. she knows i want to bang her, she comes over to watch a movie, i try to maintain distance, she inevitably ends up cuddling up, we cuddle closer, hands on each others thighs, i try to progress, she says no, there's boundaries. then she'll be too tired to go home so sleep in my bed in her underwear. i try again, she rejects. it's completely asinine, and yes i fault myself for allowing it to happen.

Didn't this exact story happen with a poster named Diamond last year? Hooked up, she then shut it down but still wanted to be cuddle buddies.

After your last post, it's very clear you need to stop hanging out with her. Be a human being if you see her in public, but no more one on one bs. Just tell her no. No need for an explanation as to why you don't want to watch a movie with the tease. She'll figure out you're over her BS.

hey,

can someone pm me the info for the SL chat on skype?

thx

Ya that's the plan. We'll still see each other once every week or two at social events, just going to stop the 1 on 1 stuff. She should get the picture. I'll still be friendly with her in the same way all my other guys are friendly with her, but I'm the only one she suckered into this cuddling bs. I guess a big reason is because all the other guys have gf's so they weren't really options for such treatment.

How many times a week you lift Housenuts?

Ideally 5x, but this summer there's been lots of patios, disc golf, and other general shenanigans that have cut back the amount I've been going. I'm trying to get in a morning routine but I'm not a morning person so it's been difficult.

Housenuts I am changing my stance. I wont get super into it but basically you are at the point you need to tell her straight (some would say give an ultimatum).

Say you want to be a "thing" or you need to break off the friendship. Actually SAY this to her. If you want to take my hallmark spin on it and go for broke toss around and I love you and see if it sticks. I dont know how you feel so thats on you.

Ideally if you are in some in betweem stage, have that convo while you are having a movie night, perhaps before thr cuddlefest, and say she should leave and think about it. Tell her if she talks to you again in the next 3 or 5 days or something you expect to be "a thing" (whatever it is YOU want, not her) or else you guys are just in the same circle with nothing else.

^ I disagree with that

Nooooooo that is a bad look Christophersen

Only possible way you can approach this is being aloof like you are doing. No chance you should be saying that you want to be a "thing". I mean she's already outwardly rejected you multiple times, doesn't like when you bring up sexual stuff, etc etc.

Nor all intents and purposes you are her gay best friend and that's how she views you. Saying you want to be a thing will turn her off even more imo. Only move, which doesn't have a high success rate, is be aloof then when drinking/seeing her out in a couple months go for it. As it stands, you're doing the right thing by backing off being her emotional boyfriend without any of the benefits. Just remember she's completely taking advantage of you as she is seemingly getting what she wants out of the arrangement and giving you nothing. Stand up for yourself and forget she exists.

@christoph: I'm so confident she'd say no to that. She does not want to be a "thing". Like definitely does not want to start off as a "thing". That's what she's scared of. I think she'd consider hooking up if it wasn't going to cause me to want it to be a "thing".

I really think my only play is to lessen our friendship, care less about her, look better, and be better. I've been doing all of those things and feel a lot more confident about my positioning now than in the past.

Told her comedy was going to end too late for a movie. Then 'at work' when she tried to keep messaging about other stuff.

You can't seem to handle the fact that she doesn't want to hook up with you, and that you are only friends at this stage. If you can't handle just being friends, then you just need to contact her less and less. I mean, sure, she could hook up with you sometime down the road, but if you can't handle just being friends and understanding that may never happen, then you really just need to stop being good friends.

This girl sounds like the worst. If your stories are accurate then there's no way she's in to you and she's leading you on for her self esteem. Just distance yourself from her, don't agree to meet up or anything, although don't be a dick if you see her in public. If you do still want something with her this is probably your only out anyway.

It's funny cause I wasn't even initially attracted to her. Was happy for her to be my friend. It's not like we really hung out 1 on 1 all that much, but we were friends. Then we started hanging out 1 on 1 and what we were doing with each other, but not actually progressing on, was way over the top of what any two single friends should do with each other. She thought it was normal. At first I thought she was just sexually shy, but wanted it. It went on, it became apparent she didn't actually want it, is not actually sexually shy, and in fact is comfortable just crossing the limit of acceptable behaviour with people she apparently just wants to be platonic friends with.

So ya, after a year and a half of being a tease and messing with my mind, I'm in no position to be content just to let it rest and continue having a really close friendship and nothing else.

It's all pretty much been said already. I'll be friendly with her, just not going to hang out 1 on 1. In essence that means we'll stop being such good friends, which is fine by me. In my mind she doesn't really deserve it after the way she acted. I mean kudos to her for getting exactly what she wanted out of me for so long, but she used me like a fiddle and I let it happen.

Let us now move on to talking about other hot babes.

To lighten up the mood this place is kinda of dead it seems to me. Someone mentioned details to SL skype chat. Has everyone moved to that or even a thing?

Got some things int he works on the tinder/okc sphere. Was originally planning on waiting til place is fully furnished but that is going to take longer than I expect.

Date on thursday with asian thats like a 6.5? Hard to say only face pics(although you can tell shes skinny by shoulders). Two other 6.5/7s that I have in the works, one suggested meeting up out friday night(like at a bar with her friends), which should make going home easier which is nice. Ill prob be doing something so we will see. The other I need to text and set up.



In a more question related note, I need a read:

So I finally met my neighbor and she is pretty hnng. Odds are she is older(my apartment complex prob has average age around 28 or so), but who knows. She has probably the cutest dog ever (a french bull dog puppy) and I have seen them a couple times , introuced myself the first time I saw her and said hi and petted her dog/quick chat two other times(all three times was after work in which I was dressed pretty well so good impressions def). On last friday I was getting ready to head to my buddies place for his birthday + going out, just called a cab, and she knocks on my door (its like 7 PM), and says:

"Hey, I was wondering if you wanted to be neighborly" and she had her dog with her. I got thrown off by the term neighborly and I was a little confused, was thinking she wanted me to watch her dog or something, so I respond "Depends, like what?" . She said, "Like grab a drink or something". I respond "I would love to but this is bad timing but lets do it soon." Which is fine. Its also nice because my place is not truly set up, and I still cant get alcohol for my place(lol OHIO). I cant tell if she was being geniune in wanting to just be neighborly, or shee want dis dihhhhk. She had also obviously just showered(irrelevant, but so hnng).

My plan is to simply wait until I run into her again and talk to her. Theres a super easy play in that there is a bar connected to my building that is owned by the landlaord that just opened up, so we can go there and check it out.

What are your guys gut reactions?

Just an update.

She's interested in your penis.

+1

I like going to knock on her door at a good time very soon unless it's a total lock you'll see her by Friday. I agree she's into you but even if she's not, might as well find out now.

Def interested in the peen. Ya i wouldnt go knock on her door, but next time you see each propose to go grab a drink. If she can't make it then, set up a convenient time.

Also have a bottle or wine or something at your place (don't understand the Ohio can't have drink at your place thing) so if in bar drink goes well can say you have some wine.

I think i posted about it itt, but I am currently without a drivers license, and Ohio is making it super hard to get one of theirs without one. I should be able to get one by end of the week if things go smoothly.

You cant buy alcohol from the store in Ohio with a passport, which is lol, so I am currently dry at my house. I can get into casinos and bars with passport though.

I am iffy on the door knocking. I thought about it, may work, I mean she isnt going to lose interest in the near future if she does want the peen.

Ohio sounds super lol. So you can only buy alcohol with a driver's licence? That's really weird and sounds possibly illegal.

As for door knocking, I'd comfortably wait up to 2 weeks. If by then you still haven't run into her I'd consider door knocking with a fresh apple pie. If not there I'd leave a note under her door. Or possibly just do leave a note under her door within a week during a time you know she won't be home.

I dunno. Also don't know what hnng is

What's your rationale behind a note? Doesn't seem good to me

Dont really know. Stream of consciousness. Girls like hand-written stuff.

Hey I tried knocking on your door to see if you're still up for being neighbourly. Guess you're not home. I'll be around the next couple nights if you wanna swing by and we can grab a drink downstairs.