Yeah the whole gun-nut, overprotective father angle makes this whole thing that much more lol, especially if he steps you aside and asks about your intentions.

lol if you mean in the way i post my stories, then haha yeah ic an see that

im like tucker max except for sex details i post details of socially ******ed things i do

And here we go...

So, a small TR and a question about a week after it happened.

Last saturday a friend and I went out, first time just the two of us, he's a ~25 yo guy that recently came out of a 4 year relationship, and he's quite rusty in his mackin honeyz skills (lol threadtitle). Two weeks before we met two girls, talked to them a bit, blahblah, nothing happened. He said, before we went out, that he had a hunch they would be there and he'd like that, since he liked one of them. Let's call them S and R, and he liked S (I don't like ABC system, I can't like arbitrary letters to them so I link letters that have meaning for me to them, deal with it).
Anyways, we walk into the club/disco/whatever I should call it, and we walk to hang our coats (need to walk halfway through the place for it, lol bad layout) and even before we give our coats to the wardrobe guy these two girls come running for us.

So, we hit it off, start talking, girls have obviously been drinking quite some already (we stayed relatively sober, maybe 2 drinks before this), and we sit down a table to chat some. We sit in a half circle, with wall/me/S/friend/R/Wall, which is kind of bad but apparently these people don't get social dynamics and that we should sit wall/me/r/s/friend/wall imo (not so important point really, but whatever, I like nitpicking).
Ok, I just run my usual wing stuff, laid back don't be awkward let them do the talking game, so he can run his game to get the girl he likes. He does quite a reasonable job at it.
(With one highlight for me: They ask the question 'so how do you usually open girls you like to talk to?' He replies: 'Well, usually if I really like how a girl looks and I want to talk to her, I send one of my friends that's drunk to her, he pulls some random ****, maybe even hugs her, to get them all confused. Then my friend pulls them back to me, so I can explain the situation to them, and not be mad at my drunk friend. Then after we've been talking for a while and it's getting late, I suggest to them to get kebab or something since we must be hungry by then...' At this point, both girls look at each other and yell 'BUT HEY, THAT'S WHAT YOU DID TO US 2 WEEKS AGO! And that drunk friend you're talking about is him! (That's me, fwiw)' S also slaps him with this really soft flirty bitchslap. Guess you had to be there, but I almost fell out of my chair laughing.)

Hmm, long semi-irrelevant story in there, but let's move on to what my question actually is. So, before the evening he said he'd like S, and he seems to be doing well, but S seems to be more physically flirting with me. I mention my hands are dry, she whips out moisturizer out of her purse and starts massaging my hands with it. I mention it smells nice, and she even stars massaging my face with it (quite nice, but totally not what I want or planned). Ten minutes or so after this, she even starts touching my leg with her hand, moving it very close to my precious things (cellphone, wallet in the pocket of my pants, among others). So I gently grab her hand, move it down more to my knee, repeat two times, and then I just take her hand and brush it off, but still gently. By the way, the table hid all of this so my friend and R couldn't see it, but R probably noticed since these girls know each other very well.

Apparently, what I heard from my friend the day after she started pulling the same trick with him about 15 minutes later, and he was obviously completely fine with it, later in the night they kissed and they are texting lame things to eachother etc. and they live happily ever after. Well, they don't since my friend isn't escalating anything so they're never going to date and he's going to be an emotional blanket which is sad, which complicates my question since I actually saw that coming. I even gave him some advice the days after about what to do but he just didn't do it, which I respect but he fails at escalation (I do too, but I know what to do and I dó tell others what to do)

I was talking about this with two other friends of mine though (both guys), and they both said they would handle it differently than I did.
Keep in mind the outcome now, and that this was to be highly expected.
Friend 1 says that I should've just let her flirt with me, hit it off, bring her home, and rip out the fireworks. This would be cool for me, but would suck for the friend that was originally into her. (I wouldn't like her for a relationship, and I'm usually not a guy for short flings but she's pretty hot.)
Friend 2 says I should've called her out at that moment, mentioned that I'm not into her (which would be a semi-lie) and just tell her to go wild on my friend. This seems pretty suboptimal to me, not only turning her off of me (which I probably did in my story as well, brushing off her physical flirtations), but also exposing my friend's interest in her which might make it awkward.

More background information: R looked good, but was drunk and has a bad personality apparently when drunk. Sucks, so hooking up with her wasn't an option really. (Even though it was easy to distract-wing her.)

So, what are your thoughts SL?
Is Friend 1 right with the 'hit it when you can'-attitude, friend 2 with the 'hey, let's all be honest here, not I but HE's the guy that wants to **** you'-idea, was the line I took here optimal
OR is there an option X I'm completely overlooking which would have her still interested in me, hitting it off with him that night, fix world hunger and erase all nuclear weapons on the planet? (No, a threesome was/is not an option.)

Friend 2 makes me cringe

Seinfeld

I'm with LT22. Friend 2 is essentially suggesting sucking the fun out of the evening. If you don't think S is good LTR material, I'd be passive about it the whole night and if your friend who likes S can't close, so be it. If he really likes S and is making the effort to get back in the game after a long relationship, a good friend would give him the chance to get some success.

That being said, If you're running really well not giving a **** and S seems to like you more and you're kind of interested, discuss it with your friend privately, see what he thinks and go from there.

you strike me as the kinda guy who might be into caramels

Friend 2 is a ****ing moron.

You need to tell you're buddy to man up and ****ing call her.

ILM weekend updates--

M (the model from a couple weeks ago that I haven't hardly talked to since) caught wind that I played the other night and demanded an encore performance of one of my songs that she likes. I used Karak's classic "I'm sorry but you're just too demanding" line since this is the exact type of girl that would respond to it, and she went bonkers. She's has asked me 4 times in the last 3 days when I'm going to do it. Of course I will eventually b/c it's easy game from there but it's just fun to mess with her a bit.

Also, I recently found out B (girl I liked about 2 months ago but it fizzled because she wasn't interested) is really good friends with one of my better bros. As she's the only girl I've somehow failed with in the last year and not known how/why, it's actually kind of bothered me. I've decided to see if I can figure it out through him.

lol, wasn't suggesting she loves me or anything either, just saying I'm happy w/ how things are going so far.

This has never worked in my experience.

Vintage, you can have your mancrush on Karak. I choose martilo.

(No romo.)

"As she's the only girl I've somehow failed with in the last year"

mbsfn

Weekend tr update. Nothing special.

Our group bumped into a load of people from my course at a pub. One of the girls was quite drunk and she called out my name across the bar as soon as she saw me so I went over to say hi. I'm surprised she knew my name to be honest as we've only had one or two short conversations ever. I'm only 70% sure of her name so I avoided saying her name She went home early as she was quite drunk but now I'll probs go sit next to her sometime.

christ i didn't think anyone was going to catch this one

Season 1, right? Broke up with him because he was a comedian and she didn't like his act.

You needed to read the whole sentence-- I have failed with plenty of girls in the last year but in all of the other cases it was blatantly clear what I did that caused the failure.

With B, however, I can't come up with any such explanation. Certainly I did make tactical mistakes (e.g. asking her to coffee during midterms which is a busy time and 2 days before spring break) but none of which in my opinion should have resulted in failure.

Goofy, while I think in general you are correct I'm good enough of friends with this guy that it won't matter. We've gone to school together since we were 6 (we're 21 now) and he'll be more than willing to help in any way he can.

who all here has each others AIM sns? someone wanna PM me and lemme get on that lil list, im gonna try to recover mine? my texting is abhorrent, and will i think in the future require insta-advice. meeting my wife for dinner in 45 tho RUN HOT ONE TIME DEALER ROYAL FLUSH

Update on M-- After strongly implying that if she came barhopping with me tonight and came back to my place she would get her wish the deal seems pretty in hand for tonight. I'll have to make sure my roommate isn't here but that's about the only thing holding me back.

LKJ I like your style a lot as well (no romo LDO). I think we'd make good bros.

Haha...my style includes failure upon failure so far ITT. But seriously, since regs can't generally point out ridiculous weaknesses on my part, law of averages says I should manage either a string of girls or a relationship to make up for my running bad for the last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKlJbe1frc

For everyone who hasn't seen it.

After that teaser about the gun-toting father...surely a Karak TR in the works?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboFZCptbqU

whats up with the ******ed thread title

To be fair, this thread has never had a non-******ed title.

Anyway, hopefully the change is temporary and we can just have a normal thread title, but this was a funny joke when it first got changed.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL