update on vintage:

me: rumor is full TR with pics within 24hrs or u will accept a temp ban. i haven't drank at all but my pokemon tshirt i ordered came today, holler
him11:45: this better be karak. and it will take more than a day. i have a concert tour
him 12:07: pokemon is only cool if you like rectum soup
him 12:10: God i cannot express how **** that is. so drunk and have to wakeup soon. girl in my room but passed out. i'll sex her when i get back
me 12:15: lol this is GoodGame. karak wears giants championship hats there's no way he'd buy something as cool as a pokemon shirt. take pics of passed out girl forsure

Why did he try to pick a fight with you for hitting on another girl

I guarantee that if you start dating other girls and become more unavailable to her she'll want to sleep with you again.

lolololololol

my body hates me so much right now

Drama itt since I last looked..

Mini TR:
Went out for first time in aaaages last night. Came back from the gym late so I missed all the predrinking and went to the club practically sober and so missed out building rapport. Platonic friend's birthday so her friend came again who I kinda have a thing for, we didn't really see eachother in the club much but at the end of night we had our arms round eachothers waists chatting but didn't feel right to make a move then in front of everyone. Probably missed a chance there.

I was a bit of a douche to some random pathetic guy in the club, platonic friend and I were separated from the rest of the group, we just got drinks and he went up to her and was miming some sort of do you want to get with me shiz, tried to shut me out, picked up her hand and kissed it, she wasn't interested at all. He did this lolroutine for a few times until I stopped laughing and offered my hand to be kissed too (lolGoS best I could think off on the fly). He wasn't impressed, we just wandered off from him looking confuzzled.

Yes, gotta follow up and make sure...can't imagine you'd seem needy for doing so, which I'm guessing is your only concern that would compel you not to make this call.

Since it sounds like you want more than occasional random hookups with this girl, obviously no ****ing chance you should go there again with her exhibiting this kind of skittish behavior.

Even if you hooking up with her doesn't lead to any kind of emotional attachment...how hot can this girl be that she justifies this level of attention/energy?

Noooooooo. I wrote a huge post a while back about a similar situation that happened to me last year. 90% of the time she only wants to keep you as a friend because she enjoys the attention and likes the idea of a backup in case her relationship goes south. We may not give girls credit for doing these things knowingly but subconsciously it happens a lot. The catch of it is if you spend any amount of time with her and treat her like a normal friend and don't give her any special attention she'll think you don't like her anymore, but if you make any attempts to interfere in her relationship she'll dislike you for not considering her feelings.

Excellent work, forum. Yeah, I'm either being kept around as a backup plan or "make new boyfriend jealous" tool, which is shady, and **** her anyway. I don't need the drama.

I don't know why I'm so attached to her emotionally, normally with this situation the new boyfriend would either turn us into platonic friends or cut off all relations. I think it's because the new boyfriend is somehow I don't know and already dislike because of him trying to pick a fight with me.

Important context: I am ~6-7 inches taller than the new boyfriend.

As someone who is 6'4" and wants short guys to patiently wait in line celibate while the rest of us tall guys find a satisfying situation, I'm now pissed off on your behalf. (Seriously.)

But anyway, yeah, I hear you. Same as you, usually if a girl I'm interested in gets with someone else, I can flip the switch off pretty quickly. If your point of difference is all about this other dude being inferior to you...just gotta let that one guy. Girls make ****ty decisions about what guy to be with all the time, it's pretty innate to them I think. If you plotted and schemed and beat the guy out for the girl, the symptoms indicate that you would be with someone who nothing good would work out with anyway. Glad to hear you're cutting loose.

lol i'm actually 6'4'' as well. I used to overcompensate all the time for being taller then every girl I talk to by being extra nice so I was less intimidating. As you might expect this backfired for quite a while

Im right about 6 foot, but I always though most women liked taller guys. But I guess it's just girl specific

The girl in this case is very short herself, and in general it's not that girls like "tall guys", they tend to need a specific height difference before a guy becomes attractive.

Being too short is like a binary disqualification, I don't think there's a huge difference between 6'1" and 6'5" for a normal chick. Go down 4 inches, though, and 5'9" vs. 6'1" is a big deal.

A lot of it is very dependent on the girl's height IMO. This topic comes up a lot because I'm a fairly average 5'9'' but my 3 best female friends are 6'1, 6'0, 5'10 and my two best guy friends are 6'4 and 6'2. But I also have a lot of decent female friends in the 5'3-5'6 range.

Not surprisingly they all have different preferences. The tall segment of my female friends would never in a million years go for a guy under like 5'11. On the other hand my short friends all say that they don't like guys over 6ft.

I graphed one time the height of all the girls I've ever hooked up with (that I could remember at least).... all except 1 were between 5'3 and 5'8 and more than 3/4 were between 5'4 and 5'6.

The ILM Theory of Partner's Height says that guys look for a girl approximately 5 inches shorter than him but this becomes more flexible towards the extremes (as the height function is Gaussian). For example, for a 6'4 guy there just aren't that many 5'11 girls walking around so they have to be more flexible.

Girls, similarly, look for a guy about 5'' taller than them IMO. For practical reasons, it means they can wear heels and not feel weird about being taller than you.

Mis dos centimos.

I was talking to a classmate the other day about this, in my estimation the hottest girl in my class. She's a pretty good friend of mine, it's interesting to get her honest takes on any number of things.

With regard to height, she said she won't outright disqualify short guys. She mentioned a guy in class she thought was attractive; I said, "Really? He can't be more than like 5'6"." She said that it's a handicap to be short but can be made up for. I asserted that I want my unfair advantage for being tall. She said, "Oh, you have it. Height is very sexy." When I asked her if there was much difference between 6'4" and something like 6', she said that yes, within reason, the taller the better. And she's short and tiny. Obviously this kind of thing will vary though.

I think its difficult to get an accurate picture because most girls have different expectations/standards of height. Being short is generally a handicap obv.
I've often wanted to be an inch or two shorter even though I'm 'only' 6"2, just because its awkward sometimes having to bend down to catch what a girl is saying in a loud environment.

Il_m, did you end up meeting the girl for coffee or what?

wokeup to these texts lol

vintage 3:37am: **** me already awake. still drunk, but managed to convince the girl in my bed to service my needs. i had to pull the "its my birthday card though. wack i know

vintage 3:38am: litterally the dumbest girl i have ever seen in my life is right in front of me and is just talking gibberish. man, i just want her to explode

vintage 3:39am: god damn band people tilt me

Bahahaha sick life

Im tall(6'4") and this is one of the pros imo, at least at house parties...DUCY?

The only thing I hate about being tall is some house parties have small ass basements(6'2"ish)

omg, epic win - we both watch a lot of the same TV shows, so I set up a TV-watching date with Jennifer Thurs night at my place so we can catch up together.

I called her around 230 this afternoon ready to give up on it and just left a message similar to the text I sent last night.

She said she had to work at 5 but we could get together after. I said I had stuff to do until 8 but that after should be fine.

5'9''

6'4"

6'3"

Also, in before Jennifer sits on the couch across from me in my living room

Haha, I pressed "reply" to wish you luck before I fully ingested your post.

Good luck anyway.