this is not a real story

IMO, Karak, you are being quite hypocritical. No way can you be mad at her doing that when you seem to have no real intention of doing anything/having a romantic relationship with BG. I mean, you keep leading her on, but you obviously don't want to pursue it (through your actions + you've straight up said it quite a few times.) You haven't friendzoned her yet because you like the attention (obviously why yeota posted that pic lol.) What I am trying to say is that you don't want to pursue anything serious with BG, but you got mad at her for kissing another guy = hypocritical.

Of course, I am forgetting multiple details about BG. Regardless, you need to figure out what you want from BG instead of just playing games with her. Of course, this is just my opinion. And of course, like I said, I am forgetting multiple details about her, so my whole post may be moot depending on her actions in the past.

Totally redundancy in this post, but yeah, just trying to be as clear as possible.

So the real question is, WTF DO YOU WANT FROM HER? Seems to me, as long as she strokes your ego, that's all you want.


Prolly, this **** wouldn't keep happening if he wasn't.

It is true. I promise.

I don't blame you for coming to the conclusion that you did, but I think you should withhold judgment until you hear the end of the story. I'll wrap it up quickly and stop drawing it out if you want. I just miss writing.

I mean, if it is going to compromise quality, then you can take your time. Otherwise, POST NOW!

sick TR's Karak, mbn

I admit that I'm jealous of this TR. Give me a few weeks and I'm sure I'll come up with a creative new way to have another near-miss.

I gotta agree Karak, your line of being pissed off at her is inconsistent with everything else you have told us about this girl.

After you find out he's gay I'd just proceed as normal but in the case that he's not I still don't think your "screw her" line is justifiable.

A girl invites you to spend the night at her house, flirts with you and hangs off you all night long, starts getting physical, then insinuates you two should go back her house soon to have more fun and hang out more and turns out and makes out with another guy when you are 10 feet away and you think I have no right to be annoyed?

Err, ok.

You guys are having trouble separating the overall situation (us having no exclusivity at all and her being free to do whatever she wants) from the specific situation we were in (while in the overall scheme there is no exclusivity, I think there is an implied "i'm not going to make out with another dude in the next 10 minutes" rule from her actions and inviting me back to her place and insinuating we're gunna get something more going).

If you were working on a girl all night trying to build attraction and you got her to agree to go back to your place when you leave in like 30 and just before you are getting ready to leave you grab a 2nd girl and start making out with her while the 1st girl is 15 feet away, would you expect the 1st girl to come back with you? Would you look at the 1st girl like she is being completely unreasonable if she is annoyed and feels used, led on and hurt?

And that hypothetical doesn't even include all the other facts from my situation: our prior situation, law prom, the week before, etc.

I mean I can see how you guys can call me a hypocrite overall with the situation (although I think that will change once I finish my TR), but me being unreasonable for getting upset in that very moment considering the plans we had made, the way she was acting and everything we agreed to just seems absolutely insane to me. I can't even find a logical base for it.

This is what is tilting me plus probably everyone else. You say you don't want to have anything to do with her in this respect, and now you change your mind at this party, and it's a definite WTF? And that's why people think you are being hypocritical because you changed your mind just because something bad happened; you've clearly expressed that you are trying to avoid any sort of relationship with her, but now it seems like you are open to one.

Nothing wrong with getting upset in the moment, but you can't have your cake and eat it too (ok, I really hate cliches, and this one really pisses me off because it really makes no sense. Whotf doesn't eat their cake? Isn't having it implying eating it? I mean, really. /rant) Regardless, that is the best thing to use to describe your situation.

What is tilting me, is that I still have no idea what you want from this girl, and I don't think you do either.

Of course, I can change my verdict after hearing the end of the TR, but these are just my thoughts on the overall situation (and that is what you have to look at.)

Clearly I thought there was a better understanding of my mind frame approaching this girl than there is. This is my fault alone, and I'll do my best to make that as clear as possible in the next TR.

Also, a second unrelated but interesting situation just popped up on my radar. I'll TR that later as well if I have time, but I think I need to do some work for law school too haha.

Yeah, like I said, I know there are details of BG that I am unaware/cannot remember since it is hard to follow all the TRs in this thread. It seems more than just I have alluded to this.

isn't BG the girl who claimed she was "basically raped" by the creeper dude at one party? just don't catch feelings...

I will address this.

Also, please don't think I'm making this more serious than it is with the length and depth of my TRs. I just decided for these I'm going to be pretty detailed, rather than just cliffnoting everything, because a) I think the situation itself is interesting enough, b) I think you guys will enjoy reading the TRs more with the included details, c) some funny **** happens and d), like I said before, I really miss writing.

I do assure you, though, that this story is entirely true. Yeota can vouch for most of it, and he would call me out in a heartbeat if I started making **** up. The only thing that might not be 100% is the EXACT dialogue that was said. It would be impossible for me to remember exactly what words were said, but I'm fairly certainly that I am pretty close. The meaning will still be the same.

Gotta do some grocery shopping and drop my suits off at the cleaners (why do I always wait until 24 hours before I need them and then have to pay the express rate?), but then I'll be back with another version. Like I said, if you are tiring of the in depth approach, let me know and I can cliffnote to the end, but I think we'll lose some of the fun along the way doing that.

Also, over the summer I plan on writing either one longer fictional story or a series of short stories based on my true stories from this thread, some stories my friends have told me about themselves and other things I've heard in the news or read online. I want to compile them into something of a larger work which would be a comedy. This wouldn't be for any hopes of publication or anything, but just for my own edification and as a personal project. So writing stuff out here helps me remember exactly what happened too.

I did this with my first break up, and I find it not only to be largely therapeutic, but a fun exercise in writing too.

Discard that cliche forever and just go with variations of "you can't have it both ways," "you're trying to have it both ways," etc. You'll live a richer and fuller life.

Let the record show that I was pissed enough to hate the girl on your behalf when this detail came in. I don't fail to understand your anger here at all.

I mean...if you play with matches, you get burned. And it's so obvious that messing around with this girl is playing with matches. But still, your situation in a vacuum? Yeah I'm ****ing pissed too.

so what exactly is Karak's question/what does he want us to say?

girl made out with guy, he was gay and it was a joke, right?

Thanks. I never use it. It popped into my head, and I wanted to rant about the stupidity of it, so kinda had to use it.

I don't understand this post. What exactly are you confused about?

Cliffs: What would you do in my position?

if the guy was gay and it was a joke I don't see the problem

after reading these tr's and such..i think im even falling in love with BG

Just be persistent, she'll definitely make out with you.

Just be sure you don't try to do it on a couch.