Mean people ITT.

le alex that tweet transcript is pretty weird... im imagining a hot college chick hooked on fbook/twitter/prolly myspace. its a shot in the dark but "guest" really bothers me.

who is it? if its one of her gfs u think shed just use a 1st name or make some feminine pronoun (bitch, gal, wifey, etc)... also she chose the wine angle with (presumably) a lone guest. wine status pre, during and post. who angles narration around wine??? a girl and a single occupant and it's a wine-gameplan? yikes man that has guy written all over it. and if it is a guy i'd guess there's like <2% chance she didn't sleep or try to sleep with him.

but like someone said, it's imperfect information so you have to giver her the benefit of the doubt. but youve got a lead of sorts.

sherlock holmes this ****.

go out with her, bring up wine or something like make up u went to a wine tasting group once and thought it was interesting... then ask if she drinks wine and when she says yes ask wats the last brand she had. if u can flow to a pregamed conversation that brings up these questions u can get a lot of information without bluntly coming out like "WHO U HAVE WINE WITH LAST NIGHT, BIOTCH????"

if she lies about when she had wine last, it's a slam dunk conviction. if not, ideally she'll elaborate on the previous night and maybe it was a girl afterall.

either way if ur the kind of guy that is bothered by her chillin and in all probability doing stuff with a guy... youre like me a one horse sleigh. the second u realize "im not going to be able to overcome the doubt/insecurity of this situation" whether u hve evidence or not, just bail. it's a -ev investment get out before youre stuck.

also ef the haters itt, what type of Q and A do you expect when you open this thread? its for advice and feedback, trolling is just wtf lame

gl alex

^ Thanks for the good post bonsaltron and you shed lights on alot of the questions I had (and still do). It just seems very strange to use the word 'guest' when talking about someone who's not a date or something.

I think the idea of bringing up wine/when she last drank it etc is pretty clever but it must come by itself.. So hopefully she offers me some wine or at least a drink.
Another easy way to go about it would be if she had done anything special since we last saw, and if she completely dodges the questions then I'd be pretty certain somethings up.
The problem is that if I feel that I'm taking seconds I just don't see a really easy way to bring it up. Storming out of there like "I can't do this, bye" would almost seem comical... the same with "I know what you did last night, b*****."

Besides, I'm not interested in a relationship w/ this girl anyways. Maybe just best to call it off beforehand.. Still not sure tho', hah.
Thanks for the advice!

my update:
girl i was after clearly isnt feeling it.
gonna be a fun rest of the semester seeing her 3 times a week.
redepositing and moving on.

yea im not saying relationship but by committed i mean "point of no return" aka drinks on her couch rounding 2nd base...

u can absolutely bring up wine. pace the conversation, pick up bits of information, its not really hard if u can find out slight things that would render a big verdict.

bring a bottle of wine maybe and make small talk about wine for 3 seconds?

or

"I spilled dropped and broke a whole bottle of unopened wine in my room before I left, I hate cleaning up wine. Is there some on my clothes? I feel like I smell like wine." (especially if its her place where shes prolly be having wine)

idk stuff like that... and watch her reaction when you ay it cuz shell insta-think of last night. pretend like your words are the flop and watch her slight reaction. if ur good at poker irl u can get a lot of vibes when you initially bring up something that reflects something she might be trying to hide. even if u dont kno her tells or mannerisms, sudden instinct to hide expression or nosedive eye contact is not a good sign.

seriously u can bring up seemingly unrelated issues and gather information. just make it casual, well rounded conversation.


or bring some wine of ur own, ask her where the wine popper is, and ideally itll be on the counter or atop the silverware drawer, u can be like "did u have wine before i got here? the opener's right here...

seriously the element of surprise (she doesnt kno ur wondering this stuff) is like being in position post flop

Hahah I really dig the similarities to poker.. Yah I'm just casually bring it up tonight like w/ the wine, what she's done last few nights etc. If she ends up bluffing about what she did It'll be fun to bring out the ace and do the "I'm not feeling it tonight" on a girl for once.
Thanks again bonsaltron

np dude just remember chicks (unless there's one that reallllly stops you in your tracks as a gf possibility) are kinda like $4.40/180s: if you go busto (and not the in-the-sack-meaning, the poker definition) just open up a new one and grind. do you remember many $4.40s you got felted from? same with unsuccessful girl situations

gl mang enjoy the last year of college, meeting chicks gets a little tougher when youre out of the school-networking-social machine.

^ Yes the rinse and repeat is definitely a very viable approach to college/university girls, there's just so many of them! But I want to play my cards right on the ones that I find success with! And I actually got almost 2 years left in school.. I'm not from the US and here the masters programs are probably set up a bit differently than in the US.. But more time to meet more people!

Ah that's a shame. But no need to be dwelling about it.
I'm not sure how the party situation is at your campus but I would suggest going out at least Friday and Saturday, even today (Thursday in my timezone) if you want to. When I've been shot down by a girl I really liked the worst thing to do is sit at home alone. Go out and drink, a lot, and have fun .

Update from me-

Went out last night, this girl is there obv. She'd like hold my hand to lead me somewhere or something and then be all like "omg why are we holding hands", and saying that we can't do "this" just yet and stuff. I'm like w/e, and I take off and get a pizza and go home. Not in an angry way or anything, just after we'd gone back to the dancefloor and stuff.
Anyway, I then a get a text just saying "hmm", from her. I'm like wtf, and ring her. We have a pretty much identical conversation of me being like "ffs making him you're relationship is good when it isn't is not making him happy ffs you stupid bint".
I get pretty frustrated andf end up saying something that makes her hang up on me. forgotten what it was now, but I ring her back and she answers. We carry on and I say that even if she did break up with her boyfriend, she needs to sort out this other guy thing, cos it's clear she really likes him and that I'm not gonna wait around like some schmuck-on-wheels for her. She gets a bit annoyed at this, says something like "well dont you care about the situation between me and joe (the other guy)" and I'm just like "erm not really." She hangs up.
I decide to leave her a voicemail telling her basically to grow the fcuk up and when she's done that, feel free to give me a call.

Was going to ignore her until she contacts me. As I wrote this, she's text me saying "sorry for hanging up but you annoyed me. im going to deal with it my way." I've basically said "whatever, bored of discussing it now, deal with it your way and hurt your bf more if you want, not really my business".

Drama imo.

lol this girl is nuts. run.

Also, a lot of this sounds like what happened with my ex when she was still with her bf before me.

We also had many moments where she would just start saying "I SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS." etc etc etc

The odds of you having any type of normal relationship with her, at least to start, are slim. And you kinda really took things to another level with the yelling and cursing her out. You need to deal with this with a chuckle and a slow head shake if you want to keep it on tap for later on when she gets her head straight. Getting angry and fighting before you even start dating is not conducive to a healthy relationship. Clearly she's very confused right now and has no idea what she wants, and a lot of it might stem just out of a basic maturity issue.

Also, it's worth noting that once a girl does this once, she has a very high chance of doing it again, especially if she's a young college girl. Meaning she can very likely turn around and do it to you once (if) you have an established relationship.

OMG RUN. Had similar situation with a girl for > 1/2 of freshman year. Then I found out she was banging like 2 other dudes (note: she was NOT banging me, but I was her emotional crutch for like 4 months). So I started banging her RA. Ship it. She found out and "broke up" with me. Lulz.

This will probably end with you drinking an inordinate amount of whiskey in about a half hour, screaming and yelling that this chick you care so much about is a bitch, choke-slamming one of your friends against a wall during a beer pong game and telling him if he misses this f***ing shot you will f***ing cut his throat, passing out half naked on a couch at a house that's not yours, and waking up with one sock on. Don't worry though; you'll find your other sock in a sink later.

Redeposit... in some other broad.

Lots of fish in the sea my friend. And it's not weird, just go grab coffee with her every now and again. Maybe she has hot friends...

This is gold!
100% this. I promise you will miss it -- hard -- once it's gone.

Good play by you. She wants what she can't have.

This. If you can hit it along the way, though, do it. But this crazy b**** is not relationship material.

I am sorry this made me lol, girls like this are efffin nuts and crazy as hell. HAHA I would def leave that alone until she can grow the eff up.

Yeah, basically what everyone said. Run.

I always had this habit of getting involved with girls with mega emotional baggage. Finally I grew up a little and figured out I don't need to deal with that ****, since there's plenty of sane women (well, comparatively so) out there. I took a few beatings on the way to learning that lesson, though.

i lold

lol some of this stuff is gold. god i wish i posted on message boards back when i had girl drama in college. be glad that you are posting this stuff here, it will seem really funny when you look back on it.

also, run from that girl. do not become her boyfriend.

haha yeah

you the more you go through life the more you realize "it's all about me" when it comes to girls. Like when you start out you're nervous and shy and then you try and extend all this effort and time... and the older ya get and the more you learn that being yourself and not exerting more effort on a chick, then say a competitive game of kickball, they'll come to you more often and you'll find less grey hairs in the shower.

I too have my college years behind me, and it's amazing how much clearer I see things now from afar. It's like one big chaotic game when you are in the middle of it.

yeah I mean the first time you break up with someone you went out with for a while you can't even fathom getting over it... then 5-10 years later you look back at GFs like Presidential Administrations. Crazy.

Break ups are never easy, but the older you get, the quicker you learn to move past them.

fyp

Table select well and hopefully you can avoid that.

taylor caby of mediocre poker radio fame itt.

yeah u deff went for a reg here, go find a donk somewhere

its just so insane more than 1 out of 2 marriages fail in the states...