not really, its really easy to post from work while youre doing other things

separating activities with friends as either "waste" or "acceptable" is obviously dumb though.

he said he's killing time between work on the last page near the start of this argument.

fwiw, Henry's giant blanket statements probably make him seem wronger than he actually is to the naked eye.

Thought it over and I really don't have any issue against her staying. I have no feelings towards her anymore and I don't think that'll be an issue if shes here. I'll just treat it like I would anyone else staying here and not go out of my way to do anything out of my regular daily routine. If anything does happen, I'll just treat it like a FWB scenario.

I think I was just kind of surprised at her request because around when we ended things, it was looking likely that she was going to get a job here and I mentioned that I'd give her a hand getting settled down and she said she didn't think it was a good idea given our history. In any case she hasn't signed the contract yet because she really wants to avoid living in this province if possible and I guess is semi-holding out for something better.

I wouldn't turn down a request from most of friends to stay at my place on a visit so I don't see any reason to treat this differently.

I just reread his post. He Said he was playing video games with his roommate. What is inaccurate about my post?

And what he's doing absolutely matters. It doesn't matter to you because you're a video game nerd but it matters to the vast majority of society. You're a law student right? Would you want your professors or future bosses to know you have 30k posts on a forum, shoutcast games with Orcs, play tons of video games? Obviously not.

What if he's playing Magic the Gathering? YUgiOh? Obviously what he's doing matters. I don't think it would set a bad precedent at all. This probably isn't a very common situation.

Ive seen this happen to some of the best bros and it is really sad. 2v2 fifa starts sucking pretty fast when one guy is setting down the controller to send a quick text twenty times a game

It certainly does set a precedent. If he has to drop video games immediately to tend to her every need, soon he's going to have to drop other stuff based on how important she thinks it is. Maybe video games are at the bottom of the list in terms of what she sees as important, but what about the next least important thing?

that's a ****ing TON of time to kill man. imagine if he used all that time for something productive.

mullen,

i misread you as saying one person in the room as in only by himself.

my response to the rest of it is:

k. this isnt about me and despite your best efforts i will not allow it to become about me.

I don't really think playing Video Games is as much of a negative as you and Henry are making it out to be. I think its pretty standard for males in their 20s to early 30s to have some involvement / exposure to video games or the like. Almost everyone I know at least plays SC2 or COD or anything at least a bit.

I don't disagree that there are more productive ways to spend 15 hours a week, but I think its completely standard for people to be spending that much time on that compared to many other hobbies.

No he doesn't. They were planning to have sex and she got ready early and was naked and horny. It's not like they were planning on gettin lunch and she got ready early and got mad. Exceptions can be made sometimes without it becoming a slippery slope if you arent a moron.

Edit: Karak I am not trying to make this about you, despite YOUR best efforts to. I'm trying to use you as an example to show you that your views towards video game play are just as polarized as Henry's in the opposite direction. You saying the girl is insane for getting upset and saying he's a bitch for life if he leaves 30 min early is absurd.

I dont think it matters at all. In the longrun if his girlfriend doesnt like activity xxx then they will have to deal with it and yes certain activities have high correlations with other negative qualities in life, but it really shouldnt be our concern what a guy does when hes hanging out with his buddies.

I don't disagree at all, but it doesn't take that much time to make 17k posts in 4 years. Between all the forums I read, I've probably got pretty close to 20k posts. If I was as opinionated as Henry and posted everything I've ever written down and then decided "meh, **** it" and cancelled, I could probably have another 7-8k posts, and most of my internetting is done while playing poker or reading/writing about baseball, both of which I consider productive since I get paid to do all that nonsense.

mind is being blown by this thread. i completely agree with the posters saying they have problems with bros putting down the controller to text every 2 minutes. but there is a big difference between texting your gf "ya miss u 2 babe" or some **** and nailing her. its not so much what he's doing at the time, but you have to factor in the future benefit of what is going to happen.

such as having your friends not wanting to hang out with you anymore because you always leave to go sex?

Karak is making this more personal than it has to be, but I've agreed with all of his substantive points on the issue.

I wouldn't always want to stop hanging out with my friends to have sex with my girlfriend...but sitting around a dorm room playing video games i would definitely choose the sex. I find the other choice unusual

I think the point everyone else is trying to make is that this isn't just about video games.

eh, guys gonna guy. if any one of my friends did this i would be 100% ok with it. that's what guy friends are there for and if its 30 minutes of extra video games (and fwiw i do enjoy video games very much) + potentially mad gf which will cause NO SEXYTIME!? vs 30 minutes less w friends who should understand + sexy time. its a no brainer. also have to consider that this situation happens super rarely, not like gf texts you every time you're hanging with friends for sex right now (or maybe i'm just a poor bastard, who knows)

They're arguing it shouldn't matter what the activity is. I disagree with that.

It's not even my gf wanting to have sex. If it was 3 of my friends sayin hey were ready early for pickup basketball I'd leave too. Because it's way better than wasting my time playing video games.

95% of the texting had nothing to do with sex. It was literally just endless boring conversation over text and would f*** up the game routine, it got to the point of playing vs him to not be fun anymore.

as dkj said part of his "broness" died then...rip(pours out some liquor)

i must have the weirdest opinion out of everyone because i think the fact it is just sex with your gf makes it a reason to wait until your agreed upon time. if it was a lunch date or something i'd be way more inclined to leave early. you'll have sex in that type of relationship over a 6month span probably 100 times right? i assume going to lunch would be way less.

i would have put a little more effort into the sexting because i know she'd be happy and making other people happy usually makes yourself happy. not going to ditch a friend or act like i don't like being around him in order to make her more happy when in reality i'll probably still be in contact with him 5yrs from then and not the girl

Wow, lots of posts on something that seems so inconsequential. I'm agree that video games have gotten difficult to the point where it's not so easy to enjoy them as a casual gamer. Whenever I drop in for a game every few months, I just get pummeled by FIFA/Super Smash/Madden fanboys. Options are to play obsessively, get good and make it fun, or use that time for social behavior. I enjoy being around people more than video games, I guess.

Mostly agree with what mullen and Henry are saying, though I've skimmed lots.

Fair. Upon rereading I see that is the case and apologize for saying that, then.

Yes, although perhaps I drew a hypothetical a bit more extreme than the current situation at hand, I'm trying to address Henry's general argument.

I rest my case.

That is wrong -- video games have everything to do with the issue. Girls do not want to lose out to certain activities and on that small list is video games.

No. I have been very clear that it only covers a small number of activities.

People don't tend to devote the same number of uninterpreted hours to darts that they do to video games. This is something that happens only with activities that consume considerable time.

My friends would disown me if I choose to play video games over having sex.

I see it as a waste of time but necessary for proper functioning. As I get older I find I need to sleep more but I still sleep less than 6 hours even now.

That is because PR was done and we were leaving. Comparing posting on 2P2 to video games is rather ridiculous. Video games consume all your attention while posting happens in small amounts of time between other activities or in small amounts of time when you are waiting for something.

Further, I spend an excessive amount of time in an office at a business I am not actually employed at. That is a completely different set of circumstances to most people. When I find other stuff more valuable to do I do as was evident by my absence for two months earlier I do it.

For what it's worth I don't even know how this erupted into an argument (between you two there or the rest of you here). You said you'd be there at 2:30 and I take it you were.

No one is crazy in this scenario, or whipped, or an *******. Anger comes from unmet expectations. Every single time. This get-together was an anticipated event for you two, and she got all into it and thought you were in the same mindset. So when you didn't rush over there, and didn't flirt with texts in the meantime, she felt hurt and ditched, so was upset.

Your expectation was that 2:30 was agreed to by all concerned, and then it was suddenly a problem because you two were on completely different planes for a half-hour.

Drinking alcohol is terrible for your health and costs money. I see nothing but negative value out of alcohol. Should I stop drinking?