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11-06-2009 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by abcdefghijk
so i saw this hot girl twice today who i was talking about recently in this thread. first time she says hi and smiles as she walks by me. i think "good."

second time i see i sit at her table for dinner tonight. she's almost done her meal, but she doesn't establish eye contact and within 10 secs of me sitting down leaves the table. moreover, she gets a cookie but doesn't rejoin the table and walks out with the cookie. wtf does this mean?

P.S. this isn't the first time she's done something like this. One day when i sat in the seat next to her at lunch, she literally moved her chair away from me (this was a couple days after we flirted heavily one night), but a couple days after that incident where she moved her chair away from me, she went out of her way to sit next to me at lunch.

so basically this is the 2nd time i've gotten conflicting messages, at least as I view it, so i'm pretty confused.

i'm not sure if this matters, but she's really smart (valedictorian of her high school) and kind of a social loner. eg she hangs out mainly with 1 or 2 of her friends and that's it.

also, idk if this explains her behavior, but i've handled it pretty awkwardly in the 2 weeks since i asked her out by acting real awkward and bumbly around her, but i'm not gonna do that **** anymore.

Anyways, what do you make of these new and old developments, does she want to hang out with me/not want to hang out with me?


and btw bambam, i wanna go out with her and even develop a relationship. she's hot and our personalities match well together, and there are very very few girls at my school who are hot and very few who i have good chemistry with.
Sorry for the late response abc. Girls that give you mixed signals are always annoying. Did she give you a mixed signal after or before you asked her out? What was so awkward about asking her out? How did you ask her out? After you answer those questions I can give you the advice you need. If you really like her and want to get to know her, I gurantee we can get her to be yours.

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Originally Posted by MILF ISLAND
Also agree with Korlit re BamBam. great advice and keep it up. But i have to ask are you a girl, gay or just awesome with women?
Haha, I am not trying to be cocky or anything, but I am just good with women. I have had a lot of experience with them and know how the mind works, because its actually not all that different from us guys. Women are just as simple minded as us guys. They just show it differently.

Also thanks for the compliments fellas.

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Originally Posted by Korlit
Girls are just like poker imo, some people have a talent, but most have to work their way up. And you play it badly, make mistakes and lose, but then you learn from your mistakes and grow some balls. One day you realize that you can beat this game. Or you just give up and live your simple live. I keep working on my poker game and I can beat it, but girls are just another issue. I don't want to be pathetic, but my heart was broken a few times and now I'm just afraid of any relationship. I mean I'm decent looking, interesting and confident but there's just something wrong about psychology...
I understand what you are saying Korlit. I have had my heart broken once. It was not the best time of my life. But there comes a point when you have to wake up and say "wtf am I doing?". Because in order to beat the game, you have to play. Just like poker, reading books and videos is a great help, but being in the action and playing is where you learn the most. You just need to realize you can get girls. The girl who broke your heart has moved on, she is somewhere and not to sound rude, but not thinking about you. Why should you be worried about her? If you have confidence, use it. Go talk to a girl. Open your mind that there are women out there who are hot, sexy, and interesting, and willing to date/one night stand/sex you. So get out there and get some numbers, party it up, and enjoy life.

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Originally Posted by Korlit
you post hand histories, the game is just different.
Very true.
11-06-2009 , 01:07 PM
annnnd update:
was cool as sht in class obv. we find out we both like blink 182 and that our first concerts were both blink 182 and new found glory....coolest chick ever ammmirighht.
told her she should come to our pregame. she said she already has one to go to. i say o ok. she tells me where it is and i go o wow im gonna be on that street too. i tell her to text me so we can take a shot together. she goes i dunno, i have a bunch of friends from home coming down to visit. i go o ok.
we part ways, i weep silently.

pros: she knows we have similar taste in music, i was funny and awesome in class.
cons: she never said anything like "maybe another time" or "ill text you" or "yea text me later" or anything engaging.

time to start ignoring her in hopes she contacts me.
11-06-2009 , 01:10 PM
she gave me these mixed signals before and after i asked her out. asking her out wasn't awkward at all, it went great, and she said she'd love to go out with me but was busy. however, its been awkward seeing her around campus since i asked her out.
11-06-2009 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by abcdefghijk
she gave me these mixed signals before and after i asked her out. asking her out wasn't awkward at all, it went great, and she said she'd love to go out with me but was busy. however, its been awkward seeing her around campus since i asked her out.
girls like you until you show interest back. you need to wait til she either contacts you, or its not gonna happen.
11-06-2009 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
annnnd update:
was cool as sht in class obv. we find out we both like blink 182 and that our first concerts were both blink 182 and new found glory....coolest chick ever ammmirighht.
told her she should come to our pregame. she said she already has one to go to. i say o ok. she tells me where it is and i go o wow im gonna be on that street too. i tell her to text me so we can take a shot together. she goes i dunno, i have a bunch of friends from home coming down to visit. i go o ok.
we part ways, i weep silently.

pros: she knows we have similar taste in music, i was funny and awesome in class.
cons: she never said anything like "maybe another time" or "ill text you" or "yea text me later" or anything engaging.

time to start ignoring her in hopes she contacts me.
Well it sounds like you were doing good. You did make one mistake. Sayin, "yeah so we can take a shot together" just sounds like you are one of those guys that either A) just likes to drink, get drunk or B) you are the type who thinks he can get more girls by getting her drunk in hopes to get lucky. It just comes off as though you are trying to get in her pants. Even though I know this she does not. So my suggestion would be to not text, her if she wants to see you she will text you before the party. If you run into her great, if not great. I understand you really like this girl, but it is time to start being decisive and stick to your actions. So don't text her. I say text her sunday night or something and ask "Hey how was your weekend, did you have fun with your friends?" But do not text her before that unless she text first.

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Originally Posted by abcdefghijk
she gave me these mixed signals before and after i asked her out. asking her out wasn't awkward at all, it went great, and she said she'd love to go out with me but was busy. however, its been awkward seeing her around campus since i asked her out.
Do you get the feeling she is feeling awkward, or are you the one having awkward feelings? If she is feeling awkward its a simple solution. Whenever you guys are alone just say "Hey look, is everything ok? It seems like something has been bothering you lately." If you are feeling awkward then you need to realize that your shot is far from over and she was just busy but said yes to go out with you.
11-06-2009 , 01:27 PM
turnupthesun,

this whole situation between you and this girl has been cringe worthy. If you didn't know before, this should put the final nail in the coffin, she is not interested in you in the least.

But all is not lost! You can stop groveling over this one chick and start hitting on some other hoes now.
11-06-2009 , 01:28 PM
both
why would she go out of her way to sit next to me one week and go out of her way to avoid me the next?

and then she texts me that she'd love to go out with me but later she consciously avoids eating with me
11-06-2009 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BamBam192
Well it sounds like you were doing good. You did make one mistake. Sayin, "yeah so we can take a shot together" just sounds like you are one of those guys that either A) just likes to drink, get drunk or B) you are the type who thinks he can get more girls by getting her drunk in hopes to get lucky. It just comes off as though you are trying to get in her pants. Even though I know this she does not. So my suggestion would be to not text, her if she wants to see you she will text you before the party. If you run into her great, if not great. I understand you really like this girl, but it is time to start being decisive and stick to your actions. So don't text her. I say text her sunday night or something and ask "Hey how was your weekend, did you have fun with your friends?" But do not text her before that unless she text first.
possibility, but this chick goes out more than i do. i kinda teased her in class about it cause she went out a bunch this week. i was trying to connect with her by taking the drinking line. im getting to the point where i just want to confront her and be like look woman whats the deal.
11-06-2009 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
possibility, but this chick goes out more than i do. i kinda teased her in class about it cause she went out a bunch this week. i was trying to connect with her by taking the drinking line. im getting to the point where i just want to confront her and be like look woman whats the deal.
The drinking line was a good idea, just not the right line. Something like "Well we should meet up so you can show me how to throw down" or "Since your the drinking beat you can show me how its done". If you say something this and add a smile/laugh at the end its a guaranteed laugh and possibly a yes. I think at this point you have 2 options. Don't play games and just say "Look I really like you and think you are an amazing girl and would love to take you out on a date" or you can do what you are doing, playing games. If I were you I would just ask her out using something similiar to the line I used above. Again that is what I would do, but of course if you feel differently then choose the other options.

Also do you guys have pics of these girls? Just curious or a fb just to see what they look like, I am pretty curious who I am helping you guys score with lol
11-06-2009 , 01:46 PM
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Don't play games and just say "Look I really like you and think you are an amazing girl and would love to take you out on a date"
This is not good advice. No where during Turn's exchanges with this girl did I see anything that resembled her having attraction for him. If he just asks her out like this without establishing some mutual attraction, all that's gonna happen is she politely declines and makes their situation even more awkward.
11-06-2009 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hanimal
This is not good advice. No where during Turn's exchanges with this girl did I see anything that resembled her having attraction for him. If he just asks her out like this without establishing some mutual attraction, all that's gonna happen is she politely declines and makes their situation even more awkward.
I do not think you are completely understanding this situation, nor giving this girl enough credit. There are girls who act this way because they are scared of getting hurt, or simply because they do not know how the other person feels. You are only presenting one side of the coin. Yes, he could ask her out and she could say "No, I just don't feel that way towards you". Or she could say "Ok sounds great". Getting your feelings out there is much better than keeping them closed up just hoping that she will eventually make a move. Plus if she rejects him, he already has his feelings off of his chest and can move on MUCH faster than if he had not told her. If she is worth it to him, he should take a shot. Again at this point in the game, you have to make a play, or leave it alone. If you think she will eventually text you then leave it alone. If you think you have a shot take it. The worst that happens is she says no and you move on. But the reward greatly exceeds the risk. Plus who knows you might find out that she is a much better friend and you enjoy her friendship. If she turns you down, not being friends is not out of the question. There are to many variables to fold.
11-06-2009 , 02:00 PM
abc- i have no idea what to make of the girl in your situation. the way you describe her actions are just bizarre. try to get her to go out with you this weekend so you can not be at the awkward stage of being interested but not really being committed one way or the other. it is possible that she is afraid to show too much interest because she really likes you but may feel like you are getting uninterested because she was busy.

that being said i would suggest trying to be more aggressive in initiating contact/hanging out etc... that way you will either a) get to hang out with her, or b) at least be able to get a better read on her.

turnupthesun- at this point it really does seem like she may not be interested, which totally sucks man. however, like bambam said, just ignore her now and dont make contact to see if she can initiate something since you have been the instigator everytime.

cixel- disagreeing is OK and totally standard. however, the way you want to go about it is very different than you would with say, a guy friend or brother or something. you want to keep a light tone/mood and ensure that you arent offending her with the way you portray your beliefs. i would also suggest not talking about serious issues- there is a saying that friends never should talk about politics and religion. just make sure you are being cute with the way you disagree. say things like "what? are you nuts?" or "cmon you cant be serious"... it is KEY however that the tone of the conversation is light if you are gonna use lines like this. once again i would advise against talking about super serious stuff right up front.
11-06-2009 , 02:01 PM
For those who read/gave me advice here's a last (I think) update:

So yesterday I was out partying and I got a text from the girl that she wanted to meet today (friday). So we met in the city, grabbed a coffee and etc. and she's coming to a party me and a couple of friends are holding after she's done with her dinner or what it was.
So success after all and thanks for all advice so far
11-06-2009 , 02:05 PM
way to go congrats!
11-06-2009 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Le Alexandre
For those who read/gave me advice here's a last (I think) update:

So yesterday I was out partying and I got a text from the girl that she wanted to meet today (friday). So we met in the city, grabbed a coffee and etc. and she's coming to a party me and a couple of friends are holding after she's done with her dinner or what it was.
So success after all and thanks for all advice so far
Congrats! It should be smooth sailing. Just make sure to ask how her dinner or whatever she did went. Play it cool and have a good time and you will be set.
11-06-2009 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yeotaJMU
cixel- disagreeing is OK and totally standard. however, the way you want to go about it is very different than you would with say, a guy friend or brother or something. you want to keep a light tone/mood and ensure that you arent offending her with the way you portray your beliefs. i would also suggest not talking about serious issues- there is a saying that friends never should talk about politics and religion. just make sure you are being cute with the way you disagree. say things like "what? are you nuts?" or "cmon you cant be serious"... it is KEY however that the tone of the conversation is light if you are gonna use lines like this. once again i would advise against talking about super serious stuff right up front.
BamBam, this is pretty much what I meant. Sarcastic quotes with a little smirk or laugh after them just to mess with the girl a little bit and keep her on her toes. Of course you shouldn't try to talk about issues such as religion, politics, etc.

abc, she seems SUPER shy, just like you described. I can't decide if it's good to be forward when around her, to get her to open up or to lay back so she's comfortable. I would probably be more outgoing in her presence just to put a stop to the awkwardness.
11-06-2009 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyenimator
BamBam, this is pretty much what I meant. Sarcastic quotes with a little smirk or laugh after them just to mess with the girl a little bit and keep her on her toes. Of course you shouldn't try to talk about issues such as religion, politics, etc.

abc, she seems SUPER shy, just like you described. I can't decide if it's good to be forward when around her, to get her to open up or to lay back so she's comfortable. I would probably be more outgoing in her presence just to put a stop to the awkwardness.
It seems that you are good to go then Good luck sir, let us know what happens.
11-06-2009 , 04:19 PM
Me? We haven't even gotten started on my ineptitude yet!
11-06-2009 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hanimal
This is not good advice. No where during Turn's exchanges with this girl did I see anything that resembled her having attraction for him. If he just asks her out like this without establishing some mutual attraction, all that's gonna happen is she politely declines and makes their situation even more awkward.
i guess you missed the part with the 2 weeks of flirting and the part where she was excited to give me her number and come hang out. it was after i got her number and called her where it turned sour. before that i definitely felt there was mutual attraction.

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Originally Posted by BamBam192
I do not think you are completely understanding this situation, nor giving this girl enough credit. There are girls who act this way because they are scared of getting hurt, or simply because they do not know how the other person feels. You are only presenting one side of the coin. Yes, he could ask her out and she could say "No, I just don't feel that way towards you". Or she could say "Ok sounds great". Getting your feelings out there is much better than keeping them closed up just hoping that she will eventually make a move. Plus if she rejects him, he already has his feelings off of his chest and can move on MUCH faster than if he had not told her. If she is worth it to him, he should take a shot. Again at this point in the game, you have to make a play, or leave it alone. If you think she will eventually text you then leave it alone. If you think you have a shot take it. The worst that happens is she says no and you move on. But the reward greatly exceeds the risk. Plus who knows you might find out that she is a much better friend and you enjoy her friendship. If she turns you down, not being friends is not out of the question. There are to many variables to fold.
this week we dont have class (one on one conferences with prof. to talk about our papers). therefor i wont see her all week. im thinking ill just call her on tuesday around dinner time. see if she wants to get food. when...i mean if she says no, ill be like what does it take for you to hang out with me. that will accomplish 3 things: 1) she will definitely understand my intentions; 2) she will have to tell me what her deal is; and 3) she can say yes and that would be sweet.
11-06-2009 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun



this week we dont have class (one on one conferences with prof. to talk about our papers). therefor i wont see her all week. im thinking ill just call her on tuesday around dinner time. see if she wants to get food. when...i mean if she says no, ill be like what does it take for you to hang out with me. that will accomplish 3 things: 1) she will definitely understand my intentions; 2) she will have to tell me what her deal is; and 3) she can say yes and that would be sweet.
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11-07-2009 , 03:00 PM
@ Turnupthesun.

Idk to me it seems like you are trying to rush things, like you guys have talked now for what 2 weeks? Give her a bit of breathing room, it feels like you are begging. Me personally I have never dated a girl I hadn't known for like 2-3 months, I never try to rush things I try to keep it cool develop some sort of friendship then move into relationship. If you were a dude in one of my classes and if you wanted to hang out this much I'd say you're weird, you guys really aren't even freinds yet let the friendship start first. Sounds like you are constantly asking to hang out, talk more in class about your common interests and stuff. The rest will be easier after that.
11-07-2009 , 03:17 PM
how can you be friends if you dont hang out or ask the person to hang out?

this is a weird situation because since im an upperclassman, i see a lot of the same people in several of my classes and have become friends with them. though i dont necessarily like/need/want to have girls who are friends, i dont mind. so basically what im saying is i have no trouble becoming friends with girls. this girl though is different because of the early flirting signs and that stuff. she seems to be having the same weird thoughts as me, though its impossible to confirm. hope some of that made sense.

so skinz, do you think i should just not initiate any contact this entire week? i feel thats counter-intuitive (did i use that correctly!?) to what im trying to accomplish.
11-07-2009 , 03:44 PM
@Turnupthesun: It feels like you're just pushing too hard. Too aggressive, too many games, etc, etc. I'd have tried to back down a lot quicker and a lot faster. Though, at this point, you should probably just straight up ask her out instead of playing games, because you've been way too aggressive without actually asking her out, unless she likes you a lot more than she's letting on.

And not contacting her the entire week is a perfectly fine thing to do. You don't always need to be the one to initiate the contact. You don't always need to have her company (I presume you have other things to do with your time).
11-07-2009 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BamBam192
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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun
how can you be friends if you dont hang out or ask the person to hang out?

this is a weird situation because since im an upperclassman, i see a lot of the same people in several of my classes and have become friends with them. though i dont necessarily like/need/want to have girls who are friends, i dont mind. so basically what im saying is i have no trouble becoming friends with girls. this girl though is different because of the early flirting signs and that stuff. she seems to be having the same weird thoughts as me, though its impossible to confirm. hope some of that made sense.

so skinz, do you think i should just not initiate any contact this entire week? i feel thats counter-intuitive (did i use that correctly!?) to what im trying to accomplish.
I am sorry for the above approval I did not take into account the time factor. The recommendations above this post are good. Take a full week, 7 days, 168 hours, and do not text/call her or FB her or anything. Talk to her in class and that is it. Leave like that. I agree it seems counter productive, but this gives you and her some breathing room to think about what is going on. You need to get your mind right for this situation.
11-07-2009 , 04:50 PM
dont have class this week.
u dont think that by not initiating contact for a week she wont get the idea that im completely ignoring her/not interested?

      
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