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09-16-2011, 12:04 PM   #13846
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 Originally Posted by Wyman 1. Do you mean "never" ending? If so, please explain.
No matter how many times you spin the wheel the game continues because you keep getting 00.

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 2. I don't understand what your second sentence has to do with anything.
It has to do with the fact that this is a purely academic exercises. While there is a non-zero probability to these events when the probability gets so low that it is unlikely to happen once in the entirety of universe then it is fine to say something is impossible. The probability of 1:10^50 has been accepted as that number such that something like sticking your hand through a window and tunneling though while having a non-zero probability has a probability that is so low that we can pretend that it is 0.

 09-16-2011, 12:05 PM #13847 Pooh-Bah     Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Burn it down and salt the earth. Posts: 3,575 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** Because it is zero.
09-16-2011, 12:11 PM   #13848
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 Originally Posted by Henry17 No matter how many times you spin the wheel the game continues because you keep getting 00.
This is my point. At some point, you must end the game by spinning a non-00. There is no positive probability -- even smaller than 10^50 -- that you just keep spinning and spinning and spinning forever. With probability 1, this game ends after some finite number of spins.

[and again, the proof of that is to assume some putative probability that the game does not end in finite time and show that the actual probability must be less]

09-16-2011, 12:16 PM   #13849
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 Originally Posted by Wyman This is my point. At some point, you must end the game by spinning a non-00. There is no positive probability -- even smaller than 10^50 -- that you just keep spinning and spinning and spinning forever. With probability 1, this game ends after some finite number of spins.
Of course there is. The probability of only spinning 00 for any finite number of spins is 1/38^x where X is the finite number of spins. That probability is always positive and greater than 0.

09-16-2011, 12:20 PM   #13850
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 Originally Posted by Henry17 Of course there is. The probability of only spinning 00 for any finite number of spins is 1/38^x where X is the finite number of spins. That probability is always positive and greater than 0.
Right. But the probability that the game never ends is 0. If you spin X times and keep getting 00, you (or your successor) keeps spinning.

I'm saying that the probability that the game NEVER ends is < 1/38^X for all X's

The only nonnegative number that satisfies this is 0.

09-16-2011, 03:00 PM   #13851
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 Originally Posted by LKJ I don't even know what state you're addressing here...but North Carolina seems like a culturally southern state from the time that I've been there.
Someone from NC will fit in perfectly with people from the real southern states if they move, but the state itself is generally not considered southern. My armchair analysis of this phenomenon is simply that the state is actually too smart. I really can't think of anything else that makes it fundamentally different (same with Virginia).

Also, there is a zero percent probability that the SEC rule is not dumb!

 09-16-2011, 03:02 PM #13852 makes nurses cry     Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: sits there stoically Posts: 38,434 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** I dunno, my pedestrian analysis was simply that crossing from Tennessee into North Carolina didn't seem very different to me at all. I did see a difference between North and South Carolina.
 09-16-2011, 04:53 PM #13853 Pooh-Bah     Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: calmer than you are Posts: 4,418 Disko, Good call on the yogurt. Picked some up, excited to try it and report back.
 09-16-2011, 05:10 PM #13854 old hand     Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: formerly: New Sodom, now: cornfield Posts: 1,319 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** to people with iphones: what's the recommended data plan i should get? i will probably be checking my email a decent amount, on 2p2 some, facebook, etc. also some irregular gps use. fu google / search function.
 09-16-2011, 05:14 PM #13855 Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 7,293 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** I have an iPhone with the unlimited plan, pretty sure you can't get it anymore. Just get whatever the max is and pray you don't go over (I use my phone a ridiculous amount)
 09-16-2011, 05:24 PM #13856 Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp Posts: 25,198 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** I would try to use it as little as possible. Get a plan that will allow you to check stuff you really need but small enough that you will not use it as a way to alleviate boredom in public.
 09-16-2011, 05:27 PM #13857 DKGOAT     Join Date: May 2006 Location: post hard in da mother****ing paint Posts: 58,138 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** browsing twoplustwo hardly uses any data (especially if you disable images), what kills you are videos
09-16-2011, 07:58 PM   #13858
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 Originally Posted by Henry17 I would try to use it as little as possible. Get a plan that will allow you to check stuff you really need but small enough that you will not use it as a way to alleviate boredom in public.
Tell him to get a pay-per-text plan too.

 09-16-2011, 08:06 PM #13859 ELIte     Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 53,741 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** i met a new group of friends at law school this semester that im very happy about. have had a lot of fun with these guys/girls already and have met a lot of nice people as a result. im glad i finally decided to get involved with an organization and started to become friends with lawl skewl people again. i was just hanging out with my non-law friends most of the time (and tehy are great, don't get me wrong), but having a group of like minded colleagues to shoot the **** with has made law skewl feel like much less of an island (my layman friends dont give a flying **** about law skewl and i dont blame them haha). /karak cool story
 09-17-2011, 03:52 AM #13860 Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,829 Re: ***Student Life Low Content Garbage Chatter Thread*** i run so **** bad at poker its amazing

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