Thanks for the call, assmaster

ahahah no, more like a cream white. that scene is hilarious though.

Os..gin bucket? never heard of it.

keg was awesome. there;s still a little bit left, so predrinks for tonight.

what's gomad?

gallon o' milk a day.

would be sooo much easier if it were beer.

More fun graffs from my poker career (the one graph is the entire run... the second is just the downswing part of that graph)... the HUUUUUUGE straight line going down you see at one point is quads over quads:

lol underquads.

Oops. We were trying to get girls over, not more bros. Sorry. Will definitely let you know next time.

Hahahaha I'm just playin.

I was actually hanging with 2 guys and 5 girls last night, soooooo I win?

btw, playing SL tourn tomorrow?

Yeah, you're girl:guy ratio was much better.

Most likely.

the farts emanating from my house right now are causing the place to smell like an abortion factory, and it's because of the beer from the keg.
Someone broke the door that leads to the basement.
there's beer and plastic cups everywhere.
someone puked in my shower. it appears to be subway or at least a sandwich.

Shoulda gotten Quiznos

That blows. Get better friends imo.

Ok, semi-serious-rant post.

Two of my roommates are the messiest people ever. Well, one of them was and one of them wasn't, but then A rubbed off on B. They never clean up their dishes, leave them/beer cans/empty boxes of franzia/whatever in the living room. When the dishes do make it to the kitchen, they're left in or around the sink for me and roommate C to clean up. When I asked A about it, he said he didn't have to worry about cleaning because he knew me and C would do it because we can't stand living with piles of dishes and empties around the house. Me and C are the only ones who wash the dishes/load unload dishwasher/sweep/mop/clean anything in the house. Last time we cleaned the living room, A was on the couch watching TV and said 'that looks fun' and went into his room.

I would just grin and bear it for the rest of the year, but I'm living with both A+B next year and not C. Its sort of a catch-22 for me because if I wait for them to clean, it will never get done and I'll live in a dirty house. On the other hand, if I do the cleaning then I'm still always the one doing the cleaning.

So, in short, help me make my roommates not be slobs.

change your approach. instead of u and your roommate just cleaning infront of him and making him feel awkward just be like "hey guys lets cleanup this **** real quick" that way you're not talking to any one person specifically. and you guys can start/stop at the same time.

as far as the dishes i think the best idea is to always put yours in the dish washer right after you use them.

I definitely have tried that approach. They both just shy away from them.

I always put my dishes directly into the dishwasher. So when I do have to clean out what is in the sink, it is always their stuff. If C or I don't, it won't get done.

I left Friday to go home for Easter and left the kitchen clean with dishes washing in the dishwasher. The clean dishes are still in the dishwasher except for the ones they had to use to eat. The rest are in and around the sink.

lol, I think the only solution is for you to beat his ass.

Or purchase paper plates/plastic cups+silverware for them and tell them to stop ****ing using the dishes if they won't clean them.

I'm actually a fairly messy person myself (although more out of laziness than being a total douche like your roommate appears to be) and using disposable dishes has been a lot easier for me.

hide all the dishes in your room or somewhere else. and scatter garbage bags around the house. and for the love of god don't live with those slobs again.

I have been on both sides of this situation (both the messy one and the clean one, if that makes sense).

Nothing you do is really going to change their behavior. Either get used to it or find new roommates IMO.

Sit them down, tell them you are done cleaning up their ****.

I mean jesus christ, you have a dishwasher ffs. Is it that much harder to put the dishes in the DW instead of the sink?

Figure out something that really annoys each of them; everyone's anal about something. Like, if you're up earlier than they are, put your music on kinda loud. Or turn on something loud and horrible for sex while they're in there with a chick.

They'll bitch about it, and you can be like "look, you obviously have no respect for me (dishes), so why should i keep my music off? Now you're awake, so what's the problem?" Compromise with them, then. You'll stop with the music if they just clean their dirty dishes.

Will start a lot of fights, I'm sure, but you've gotta hold your ground or be perpetual table captain.

passive/aggressive responses will make the situation worse 99% of the time

Yes, but you have to have an arms race before detente.

If one side is a pushover, it may not get worse, but it definitely won't get better.

It would be much more effective to simply confront them about the issue, list out your concerns, make a valid argument why they shouldn't act the way they do and then try to reach a compromise.

If that is not successful, then his roommates are not reasonable people. No amount of passive aggressiveness is going to change that. It will only serve to infuriate them and further their reliance on the undesired behavior.

Like I said, people like this won't change quickly. It will take a long process of maturity and growing up to do that.

Missed the first deadline, but there were circumstances beyond my control which contributed and I was very nearly done. As such I will not be punishing myself, however, I will simply be pushing the deadlines on everything back 1 day (meaning the final day is now the 17th). If the outline is not completed by tomorrow, the freeroll will stand at $60. This truly wasn't my fault or, trust me, I'd be throwing more $$ in the pot. I expect to miss a deadline or two down the road, no worries.

I thought this was the point. Maybe I misread, but I thought he had confronted them, and they said "why would we do it when we know you'll do it?"

Anyone who's going to be a jerkoff and make my living situation unpleasant like that is in for some retribution.

I totally agree that the first step should be to try to work it out peaceably, but I thought we were beyond that.

If you go through life taking the approach that every unreasonable behavior or action must be met with retribution, especially when in a closed environment such as an office or home situation, you are not going to be a very happy or likable person.

Retribution serves nothing but to palate your own desire for vengeance. Revenge, from a logical standpoint, is costly and often will make your situation worse. It will rarely make anything better except inside your own mind. Once you can conquer these inherent desires for revenge, you will save a lot of time, effort and heartache while, at the same time, presenting yourself as a more mature and helpful functioning member of society.

The obvious solution here is to make arrangements to move out or live with someone else or, if that is not possible, construct your living arrangement in a way where their behavior minimizes its impact on you.

If you do not clean up their things, the house will be a mess. Their behavior will unlikely change.

What is worth more to you? A clean house or not having to go through the extra effort of cleaning up to them? Once you decide, follow this course of behavior.

By engaging in retribution it will either a) cause them to laugh at you and change nothing or b) cause them to increase the frequency of behavior in order to win the "dick waving" contest with your or c) cause them to engage in vengeful behavior all on their own, making your situation worse.

If sitting down and talking to these guys did not solve the problem, do you really think going out of your way to antagonize them is going to make them say, "Oh! I guess he was right. We SHOULD help him out!"

Doubtful. They have proven themselves to be unreasonable to this point, and if you expect them to reasonably and logically respond to your passive aggressive behavior to better their own situation (meaning they will think ok well if we do X he will stop doing Y), then you have failed to use history to make an effective decision.