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Old 01-14-2009, 04:06 AM   #151
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Despite being accepted to a T14, articles such as http://online.wsj.com/public/article...780835602.html still scare me. I don't know what to make of all the differing opinions regarding employment =/
See that worries me, but then I realize I'm going to law school to do what I like, not to make big bucks.

It won't matter if I'm making 50k or 500k, as long as I love going to work (nearly) every day, I'll be a happy man. I just want to make enough to comfortably live and take care of my (future) family.

Obviously, I'll take more $$ if it's there, but it's not a necessity.

And I've been told the cliche "the cream rises to the top" holds true more in law than many other professions. If you are good at what you do and work hard, then success will find you.
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:00 AM   #152
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See that worries me, but then I realize I'm going to law school to do what I like, not to make big bucks.

It won't matter if I'm making 50k or 500k, as long as I love going to work (nearly) every day, I'll be a happy man. I just want to make enough to comfortably live and take care of my (future) family.

Obviously, I'll take more $$ if it's there, but it's not a necessity.

And I've been told the cliche "the cream rises to the top" holds true more in law than many other professions. If you are good at what you do and work hard, then success will find you.
Ya...I hope those guys that get stuck doing doc review for $25 an hour were at/near the bottom of their class...but who knows...
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:07 AM   #153
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On a side note, what do you guys know about deferrals? At first I wasn't really considering it, but now that I've got into a T14 and I'm still in UG...the idea of taking a year off is growing on me...but...

-How easy is it to get a deferral? Do I need really good reason such as a job or volunteering opportunity? How could I get one without saying "I'm lazy and wanna play poker for a year?"

-Are most of them binding (i.e. I couldn't apply for any new schools the following year)?

Any insight is appreciated.
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:48 PM   #154
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I'm no expert, but I assume they are going to want to know why and what you are going to do. I'm not sure a year off to play poker is going to cut it, but you never know.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:16 PM   #155
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depends on the school. mine would grant 1 or 2 year deferrals to anyone. I think Boalt's policy was only for an extraordinary opportunity like a fellowship or something.

call up the admissions office.

as for applying to other schools while on deferral, that sounds like trouble. I'd look into it very carefully before attempting. could be an ethics violation that could come back to bite you.
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:58 PM   #156
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Ya, I would definitely need to look into the terms of the deferral, but I've heard it can vary from school to school...i.e. some don't say that you can't apply to other schools the next cycle...

Of course, my biggest concern is convincing them to give me one without some amazing reasong like Teach for America....what if I said something along the lines of 'I'd like to get into Americorps...'
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:17 PM   #157
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eviljeff is right. Your reason doesn't really matter.

Some schools give them out if you ask, other schools don't absent incredible (true) reasons. So just ask. It's not insulting, they won't yank your offer.

Do not start your legal career by lying to your law school. I'm not joking, that **** could come back and **** you up on the character and fitness section.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:25 PM   #158
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Ya...I found this link: http://www.deloggio.com/hearing/deferral.htm

looks like you're right, it just varies from school to school -- some don't offer them regardless, some don't care what you do, and some want a good reason.

Hmmm...I don't know, I just feel like taking a year off might be what I need to re-motivate myself for 1L...I can't even make myself try anymore in UG with only 2 quarters to go hah
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A girl I know got into Yale and deferred for 3 years, without a reason other than she didn't want to go to law school yet.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:17 PM   #160
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A girl I know got into Yale and deferred for 3 years, without a reason other than she didn't want to go to law school yet.
That girl's name? Malia Obama.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:22 PM   #161
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(for each semester, not cumulative)
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:55 PM   #162
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does it get harder as you move along?
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:58 PM   #163
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does it get harder as you move along?
no, it gets easier (also realized graph is actually a little wrong and i shortchanged myself, i was going off memory). Also of note is that I had P/F credits towards the end so 1L year was 33 graded credits which is more than 2L and 3L combined)

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Old 01-14-2009, 10:04 PM   #164
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What is considered a "good GPA" in law school?
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:08 PM   #165
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whatever gets you the job you want
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:09 PM   #166
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depends entirely on your school's curve and your school's rank.
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What is considered a "good GPA" in law school?
Along with everything else you need to know, you'll find out in your first week of school.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:02 PM   #168
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Along with everything else you need to know, you'll find out in your first week of school.
How so? At my school you could always find out what GPA landed you in what percentile (for that semester and cumulative), but it actually changed quite a bit each semester while maintaining the same curve.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:49 PM   #169
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How so? At my school you could always find out what GPA landed you in what percentile (for that semester and cumulative), but it actually changed quite a bit each semester while maintaining the same curve.
O I wasn't aware schools changed their averages. Mine just sets a required range for the average so grades can be compared across years etc.
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How so? At my school you could always find out what GPA landed you in what percentile (for that semester and cumulative), but it actually changed quite a bit each semester while maintaining the same curve.
right, but at least you'll know that 10% get As, 15% A-, 15% B+, etc... You should be able to get a fair guess after that.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:01 PM   #171
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My school's percentages/class ranks are a joke b/c seminars don't have to abide and everyone gets A's in those. But its good for people who don't have jobs 2L/3L as it allows them to artificially inflate their GPAs.
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My school's percentages/class ranks are a joke b/c seminars don't have to abide and everyone gets A's in those. But its good for people who don't have jobs 2L/3L as it allows them to artificially inflate their GPAs.
this is why interviewers have explicitly told me they don't really bother with 2L/3L grades. although i guess it might help for the initial resume gpa bump.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:57 AM   #173
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third night in a row I thought I was going to take off before 6 and ended up staying past midnight. biglaw trifecta?

still happy w/my career/job decisions, though.
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^^^

sounds like a blast
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:05 AM   #175
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third night in a row I thought I was going to take off before 6 and ended up staying past midnight. biglaw trifecta?
but did you get a free dinner?!?!?!?
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