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09-19-2009 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Case Closed
Oh ok. When are you taking the test? You should look up some of the strategies provided but the lsac courses. I really like the way they break down the reading sections. What section are you struggling with, the essay or theshort paragraph ones?
Taking the test in a week.

I'm perfectly capable of performing well on the RC, but on the last 4 tests I have missed 3-4 more than I usually do on the section. I generally find the comparative reading section harder, but scoring wise it doesn't seem worse. For example, on the test I took today, I missed 7 total, and I think it was -2/passage except for one -1.
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09-20-2009 , 01:57 AM
Well, one thing I have feel like is that there are some tests where a specific section is obviously the hardest. For most of the tests I had taken the short essay was great for me until a run of about 3-4 tests and it was pretty brutal. I got about 3-4 more incorrect on those as well. Those tests were also the ones with the easiest logic games though.

Is there any link in the type of questions you're getting wrong? The lsat book I use breaks all the questions down to specific types that can be attacked in specific ways. Maybe it would help if you found the common structure of the questions you struggled with.

For me I get owned pretty hard on the short paragraph section with the "choose which of the following has the same type of argument" questions.
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09-20-2009 , 03:27 AM
is it just me or does the LSAT have absolutely 0 to do with law school/being a lawyer. I felt like the SAT did a pretty good job of separating out "the people who can't read and add" with the ones who can, but the LSAT was completely random.
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09-20-2009 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
is it just me or does the LSAT have absolutely 0 to do with law school/being a lawyer. I felt like the SAT did a pretty good job of separating out "the people who can't read and add" with the ones who can, but the LSAT was completely random.

no i think it does a fairly good job of testing your reading and reasoning abilities. also the time pressure is similar to law school exams
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09-20-2009 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
is it just me or does the LSAT have absolutely 0 to do with law school/being a lawyer. I felt like the SAT did a pretty good job of separating out "the people who can't read and add" with the ones who can, but the LSAT was completely random.
The LSAT is a better predictor of law school GPA than undergraduate GPA, and the parts that involve reading, strict use of language, identifying flaws, etc. are clearly applicable to both law school and the actual practice.
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09-20-2009 , 10:16 PM
What about the fact I haven't been asked to do a logic game yet?
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09-20-2009 , 10:48 PM
Wait till you take tax.
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09-21-2009 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The LSAT is a better predictor of law school GPA than undergraduate GPA, and the parts that involve reading, strict use of language, identifying flaws, etc. are clearly applicable to both law school and the actual practice.
Well I'm sure people study these things so your probably right. I was going to say I felt time pressure on the LSAT, which seems like it could end up relating to real life lawyerin. It also made me want to blow my head off while taking it, which seems to simulate the real world at times.

Also, maybe I am unique, but when I did LSAT problems I would read them and halfway through start thinking about football or how awesome Tiger Woods is or something. In real life the issues are real and much more interesting.
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09-21-2009 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
What about the fact I haven't been asked to do a logic game yet?
I've seen the skills pop up from logic games many times during my first month of law school. If you can't see where these lie, then I'm sorry.
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09-21-2009 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
What about the fact I haven't been asked to do a logic game yet?
You don't see how finding patterns and applying them to a particular game applies in law school? Are you in law school?
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09-21-2009 , 05:15 PM
well when you run a firm and have five clients, five conference rooms, and five attorneys, and each with unique and interrelated requirements, you'll thank god you had to do logic games.
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09-21-2009 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
is it just me or does the LSAT have absolutely 0 to do with law school/being a lawyer
Just you and the thousands of other people who have made the same observation (rightly or wrongly).
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09-22-2009 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Eyedea
well when you run a firm and have five clients, five conference rooms, and five attorneys, and each with unique and interrelated requirements, you'll thank god you had to do logic games.
Lawl, I know I will be indispensable a the next family wedding I am a part of.
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09-22-2009 , 03:25 PM
I have my grandmother asking me for legal advice and she is a lawyer. ???
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09-22-2009 , 05:50 PM
Hey, wanted to see if any 2+2ers had good outlines for Contracts, Torts and Criminal Law.

I'm in my first semester and am a little bit overwhelmed. I enjoy my classes but I feel like I'm learning so much information its hard to take it all in. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Random: Any 2+2ers able to play 20 hours a week of poker and still succeed as a 1L??
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09-22-2009 , 05:52 PM
There are outlines for these classes all over the net. I am willing to bet that your school has an outline bank that has outlines tailored specifically to your professor; look into that.

I think 20 hours a week of poker is totally doable as a 1L.
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09-22-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by XxGodJrxX
There are outlines for these classes all over the net. I am willing to bet that your school has an outline bank that has outlines tailored specifically to your professor; look into that.

I think 20 hours a week of poker is totally doable as a 1L.

Thanks bro. But the ones online are pretty *****ty. I go to NOVA and couldnt find any tailored to my professor. That would of been too easy.

BTW: How much time did you spend on outlining?
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09-23-2009 , 07:20 AM
This might sound completely stupid, but I'm about as clueless as can be whe it comes to law as a profession.

How does the hiring process for recent graduates work?

Do firms send people to recruit graduates at events specifically for that purpose?
Is there some kind of registry where graduates can apply for jobs?
Do you just go around handing out your resume to all the firms you find in a phone book?
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09-23-2009 , 08:37 AM
All of the above?
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09-23-2009 , 04:17 PM
and what do they look at?
basically just grades and/or what school you're going to?

is there an index somewhere that lays out what kind of job offers you should expect with a grade of X from school Y?
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09-23-2009 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
and what do they look at?
basically just grades and/or what school you're going to?

is there an index somewhere that lays out what kind of job offers you should expect with a grade of X from school Y?
www.google.com

there is so much info out there on this.

on a side note, after graduating, try bartending. You'll thank me later.
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09-23-2009 , 08:04 PM
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www.google.com


on a side note, after graduating, try bartending. You'll thank me later.
care to share any stories?
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09-23-2009 , 09:59 PM
Hey guys!

im having my first midterm, only in torts, its open book/notes/what ever you want to bring (except an attorney--although he never said that im assuming its frowned upon) ....

any suggestions on what to bring?

im figuring making a bare outline to bring just name of intent. torts elements than defense and some brief info --the tests is only an hour and its 10 multiple, 1 short essay, 1 long so its pretty time constrained.

any advice welcomed thanks
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09-24-2009 , 12:28 PM
I've searched the thread to no avail, sorry if this is a repeat. How long does the LSAT usually last from when the test starts to when you actually walk out of the testing center?

The LSAC website says to leave 7 hours, but this seems way too long to me. 5 35 minute sections and a writing sample doesn't seem like it would add up to 7 hours. Maybe they just say 7 to be extra safe? Does anyone have any experience on how long it actually takes? Thanks a lot...
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