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Old 12-06-2008, 05:37 PM   #26
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eh I'll just answer questions in this thread or people can PM me

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how was taking another states bar?
my law school curriculum didn't focus on bar preparation at all for any state, so taking the bar in a different state didn't particularly hinder me. law school didn't really prepare me for the bar exam, other than having a foundation in basic 1L curriculum stuff.

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did you do a bar prep class or just study on your own? if you did barprep, then do you think just getting the books from someone else would have been sufficient?
like most people, I took Barbri. I didn't take PMBR. Barbri sucks in a lot of ways, but I'd make the same choice if I had to go back in time and do it again.

getting a complete set of bar study materials probably would have been sufficient for me if I could have stayed motivated enough to make myself study. taking a course has the benefit of giving you a "class" to go to regularly.

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how much harder is the bar than the average law school final?
apples and oranges

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what was your study strategy, how many hours a day, etc.
my strategy was basically just to follow the daily schedule Barbri gave me. I ended up completing about 1/2-2/3 of everything they told us to do.

I went to Barbri "class" (i.e. watch a video and take notes) for 3-4 hours 5 days a week and then probably spent an additional 4 hrs/day studying on my own.

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Can you include the first months at a firm?
I've been working for 6 weeks and I'm basically still getting my bearings. almost everything I do I'm doing for the first time. as compared to summer associate, hours are longer, lunches are shorter and expectations are higher. I'm still happy with my decision to go to law school and into biglaw. ask me for an update in a few months.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:08 PM   #27
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On that note, when do guys think I should take the MPRE? I have to take a professional responsibility class at some point, probably fall of 3L year, and was just going to take it then. Is there a reason to try to get it done before then?

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Old 12-06-2008, 06:21 PM   #28
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any time after 1L. check the rules, but I think 2Ls can take it. should only take up like a day and a half of your time. I'd save spring of 3L as a buffer in case you do fail it. I took it fall of 3L and that was perfect for me.
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:52 AM   #29
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I took it Nov. 3L year. I'll let you know next week how it went. It's harder than advertised, but still not that bad.
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:55 AM   #30
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I took it Nov. 3L year. I'll let you know next week how it went. It's harder than advertised, but still not that bad.
I took it last month, too. I probably failed.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:38 PM   #31
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I took it last month, too. I probably failed.
I went to the BarBri video and did like five different sets of practice questions (like sets of 20, not full tests). On 3 of the 5 I got just enough to pass, one I failed, one I passed easily.

I'm glad that knowing whether or not a judge can donate the political campaign of his ex-wife's brother who also works for a company that used to litigate in his court but has no pending actions, is potentially standing in my way of becoming a lawyer.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #32
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whether or not a judge can donate the political campaign of his ex-wife's brother who also works for a company that used to litigate in his court but has no pending actions
seems like an obvious maybe
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:33 PM   #33
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I went to the BarBri video and did like five different sets of practice questions (like sets of 20, not full tests). On 3 of the 5 I got just enough to pass, one I failed, one I passed easily.

I'm glad that knowing whether or not a judge can donate the political campaign of his ex-wife's brother who also works for a company that used to litigate in his court but has no pending actions, is potentially standing in my way of becoming a lawyer.
Was the answer yes?
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:11 PM   #34
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that the problem with the MPRE

you will read the question and think "i know the answer is yes"

then the choices will be

A) Yes, because.....

B) Yes, because.....

C) No, unless....

D) No, unless....


So you think you could eliminate the No's but then they do the "unless" crap.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:42 AM   #35
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thought about writing up my advice/thoughts about the (CA) bar exam. I'm pretty sure no one would read it now, but it might come in handy for the 3Ls in May. anyone interested in this?
rate attractiveness of co-workers?

is your practice affected by the economic downturn? are people in your department concerned?

do you think your firm will match skadden's bonus structure or just follow cravath?

what happened to your avatar?
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:56 AM   #36
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sup steve
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:15 AM   #37
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sup steve
one of those weeks where work is super busy and there's lots of stuff to do, and yet i still procrastinate and come to 2p2 and think about playing wow and sleeping.
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:27 AM   #38
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nice. met up with some 2p2ers last night and kicked their asses in MK. still trying to work "seems innocuous at the time" into a memo. WISH YOU WERE HERE BRO.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:13 PM   #39
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Someone tell me which schedule is better:

M- 5:30-7:30pm (White Collar Crime)
T- 9am-5pm (Internship)
W- 8:30-10:00 (Mergers & Acquisitions), 11:00-3:00 (Internship)
T- 9am-5pm (Internship)
F- 8:30-10:00 (M&A)

or

M- 9am-5pm (Internship)
T- 10:00-11:50 (Copyright), 1:00-5:00 (Internship)
W- 9am-5pm (Internship)
T- 10:00-11:50 (Copyright)
F- ....


Pros of first schedule:

-Interested in class subject area, cool professors.
-Get out friday at 10am and nothing til Monday at 5:30pm

Pros of second schedule:
-Done at noon on Thursday, Fridays completely off
-Only one exam (I need 4 credits and Copyright is 4. Other way I take 5 credits and end up with an extra one)
-Extra hour of sleep a couple mornings
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:39 PM   #40
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Someone tell me which schedule is better:

M- 5:30-7:30pm (White Collar Crime)
T- 9am-5pm (Internship)
W- 8:30-10:00 (Mergers & Acquisitions), 11:00-3:00 (Internship)
T- 9am-5pm (Internship)
F- 8:30-10:00 (M&A)

or

M- 9am-5pm (Internship)
T- 10:00-11:50 (Copyright), 1:00-5:00 (Internship)
W- 9am-5pm (Internship)
T- 10:00-11:50 (Copyright)
F- ....


Pros of first schedule:

-Interested in class subject area, cool professors.
-Get out friday at 10am and nothing til Monday at 5:30pm

Pros of second schedule:
-Done at noon on Thursday, Fridays completely off
-Only one exam (I need 4 credits and Copyright is 4. Other way I take 5 credits and end up with an extra one)
-Extra hour of sleep a couple mornings
Having class more than 2 days a week as a Spring 3L is a HUGE BEAT. I only have TR, and don't start until 1:30.
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:00 PM   #41
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Having class more than 2 days a week as a Spring 3L is a HUGE BEAT. I only have TR, and don't start until 1:30.
Well with the first schedule I don't even really count M or F as days with class. On Mondays, I will go to that class dressed for the gym, play poker during class, and then head to my gym which is right by school. Or I'll skip. Same goes for Friday. I can be up, done with class and gym by noon. I basically have a four day weekend, and I can take a 4 day weekend for real whenever I want.

If I hadn't done the internship, I could have easily done one class that meets TR and a Tue seminar and a Thu seminar, but too late now.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:07 PM   #42
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Passed the MPRE, thankfully.

Actually did like 15 pts. better than expected.

I'm ethical!
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:18 PM   #43
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Passed the MPRE, thankfully.

Actually did like 15 pts. better than expected.

I'm ethical!
Same! Grats! I was sure I failed, but then I pwned it with a 118, haha. Such a random test, whatevs.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:02 PM   #44
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omg multiple choice and t/f contracts take home exam is slaughtering my will to live.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:04 PM   #45
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two professors with "open book final exam" on the syllabus.

One just confirmed that we can "bring in anything except a friend to the exam"

The other just confirmed that "open book means the book and your notes"



**** the second guy.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:04 PM   #46
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I don't get people that complain about multiple choice exams. What kind of retard do you have to be to not do well on these?
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:05 PM   #47
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I don't get people that complain about multiple choice exams. What kind of retard do you have to be to not do well on these?
uh that's kind of it. i dont want 10 choices and pick as many as apply. especially when i think getting any wrong is awful. it's just over thinking and second guessing blah
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:19 AM   #48
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I don't get people that complain about multiple choice exams. What kind of retard do you have to be to not do well on these?
If you have a professor that gives multiple choice exams, run (do not walk) to your local law library and check out the Q&A volume for that subject. I think it's safe to say that at least 50% of all profs who give multiple choice exams pull some of their questions verbatim or close to verbatim from those books.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:12 AM   #49
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If your professor lets you bring what you want to the exam, and they have old exams on file, be sure to bring copies of the exams and model answers with you. Same goes for Examples and Explanations books. I've netted a few exact questions/answers by doing this.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:01 AM   #50
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How does law school in terms of difficult compare to say an engineering major if any of you went the engineering -> law school route (im in Chem E)
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