Aces,
Unless she's knocked out, I'm just talking to her and letting her decide what we do. If she thought it was serious enough to go to the hospital or something I'd aware her on DUI via bicycle is a thing and work out a story. People get hurt on atv's on private property and get DUI's.

To your credit I don't provide a lot of details in TR's anymore since Skype chat takes care of a lot of the backstory behind things. But I'll address those 3 points.

1. There's a reason I, as the only white male present, was invited to the party thrown by my friends. It's not because of my casual racism.

2. My license is supended.

3. I clearly said I paid for my cab to and from places that night. I wasn't willing to pay for an ex gf's cab to a different city. Not that I even thought of that at the time.

lol, kid, are you actually implying that being invited to a party has any bearing on whether or not something that you said on the internet can be correctly considered "casual racism"?

I don't know you and I'm certainly not going to comment on you generally as a person as a result; maybe you often say racist **** and act in bigoted ways, but probably not. Nonetheless, nonchalantly using the word "nigs" on the internet to a thread full of (nearly?) exclusively white guys is absolutely a casually racist act.

I don't imagine being a decent person is high on your daily checklist, so lemme use terms that will make sense: when you speak like that you either slightly raise your value to all the wrong people or seriously diminish your value to everyone else. It makes you sound ignorant, not edgy.

This Minnesota guy is pretty much the nut low

He may or may not be, but he's spot on that "when you speak like that you either slightly raise your value to all the wrong people or seriously diminish your value to everyone else. It makes you sound ignorant, not edgy." I was definitely turned off by GG's "nigs" comment.

Again, maybe- but comments like this are just silly.

racists itt

This post is brilliant considering the username.

Also using the word nigs isnt racist, you people are delusional. Not to mention white people parading black power are more casually racist then what GG said will ever be.

No, it really is.

Taking casual racism to the point of not thinking it's casual racism is worse though.

So in an attempt to understand what you guys are trying to use the term casual racism for, I urban dictionary'd the word. I think you guys are using the 3rd definition(the long one) here?:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...asual%20Racism

If so then i would agree, that was casual racism. But I would also say that there is nothing wrong with saying things that fall under this definition of casual racism(the Jewish example they use I would disagree with though).

Racism implies a certain level of intent imo, and casual racism, imo, is racism done subconsciously.

Now you may say, but custer, thats exactly what gg did. And no it ****ing isnt. For something to be racist it has to imply a positive or negative comaprison to another race. Jeff described them using the terms nigs, is it PC? No its not, but that doesnt make it racist.

Lets work through a little exercise here and you guys tell me if its racist(not casually racist by the above definition, but actually racist):

1. GG walks into the living room and greets the only person in there, his white roommate, by saying "Whats up my *****?"

2. Same scenario but this time GGs roommate is black, and he is fine with GG using the term.



The word nigs, or ***** can be used in a racist way, obviously, but for you guys to get accept at a use like that is beyond absurd and shows a true lack of understanding in modern day race relations. I would give irl examples but you guys would just compare it to a "my xxxxxx is black so its cool".


The word nigs/*****/etc are not racist terms but can be used in a racist way. There are no such things as words that are racist, only uses that are racist.

People who aren't racist but use racist terms give racists cover to use the same words, so they become indistinguishable. That's why it's bad.

Wait so are you arguing that he shouldn't have said it or its racist. Please pick one(obviously picking the latter implies the former). In a matter of one post you went from, it being racist, to he shouldn't have used it. I cant wait for your next post.

I would agree he shouldn't have used it, but for people to come in an say what he said is racist is idiotic and is purely a result of white guilt.

It's a racist term. You should not use racist terms. Attempting to justify using racist terms is worse.

I'm not sure how you didn't get that from what I've posted so far. Up late?

Guy at my poker table on Sunday:

"Oh yeah, that area attracts a bad element. We call it "Minority Mile"....I'm not being racist or anything though."

I obv called him out for in fact being a racist.

There was a pretty big discussion in OOT a few weeks ago about something very similar to this where the overwhelming consensus was that while it may not have been directly racist/homophobic on the part of the speaker, it's definitely in poor judgement and just kinda makes you look insensitive. It was in the gay athletes in sports thread.

i don't think it's racist. black people identify themselves using that word all the time. he wasn't using it in a derogatory way - just as an identifier.

that's a pretty bad argument. is it okay to use the word N***** just because black people use it to identify themselves, as long as he wasn't being derogatory?

Custer, if you are going to make an argument, start by not using incredible sources such as Urban Dictionary.

Anyway, what GG said was blatantly racist. There's really nothing arguing against that. In his very context, to a wide audience, he called random black people "nigs".

There's really no way of saying that's not racist. The two contexts you described the person isn't racist by saying it, but the second is a little more racist since it is acknowledging the black person's race and using a term based on that.

But I think a big problem in society is trying to becoming colorblind. It is just killing cultures. We are different but equal. Although, to be fair, these differences have been used a lot more negatively than positively.

Anyway, this discussion is completely off-topic. Probably should move on.

No I would say it's not ok to use n***** (6 letters) but the word n***a or nig is different. Although they sound the same I would argue they evolved into two separate words. One retaining the original racist context and the latter just being used as identification. Like my black friends lose their **** when someone says n***er but couldn't care less if someone says n***a. (e.g. no its cool i have a black friend)


MMD cancel dude wtf? That's super misleading.

Saying nigs when referring to a group of black people you don't know is so conspicuously racist. I don't understand how anybody can be arguing otherwise. It implies a certain level of superiority of the speaker when referring to a group as "nigs".

but black people don't imply superiority when they use it. they simply use it to identify other black people. you can't have it both ways.

fwiw i nearly called out GG on using the n word.

really tho, you dont have to use it to let us know who's in the room, just choose another more appropiate word.

i mean look at the response you got here

seriously this thread is derailed 99.9% of the time and has 0.1% of actual worth-reading content, makes me very sad

Christophersen: True, but that's when I find it more interesting. If it helps, I think racists have less chance of getting girls.

Just because black people don't imply that when they use it, doesn't mean that gg wasn't when he used it. Of course you can have it both ways. There are varying degrees to everything in life, not everything is black and white--no pun intended.

I almost think the thread should be split, one thread of just TRs and dating advice purely, and one for all this mumbo jumbo.