I didn't bother reading any of the responses so sorry if this is repetitive but being in a fraternity has been one of the single most valuable experiences of my life. I've met dozens of the most interesting people I've ever encountered, my best friends for the last four years and of course tons of girls. I was President twice and helped build the house from 8 members to 80, and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

On the other hand, I don't know if I would've been happy at many of the other fraternities here at Cal, so take your time to find the right fit.

Like everything, Fraternities come in all shapes and sizes. Some are filled with d-bags, some are a bunch of uppity pricks who everyone hates, some party 7 nights a week and live in a trash dump and some are just painfully lame. There is a reason that so many people have a bad perception of Fraternities, but at the same time there's a reason that so many of our Presidents, Senators and business leaders were fraternity members as well.

Just curious, what fraternities are you guys in?

dtds are different at my school for sure

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DKE

Care to analyze this deeper?

-> Ron Paul should have been Republican nominee?

Fraternities teach kids how to be leaders. They teach them how to organize groups of people, recruit new members, sell people on their vision, resolve conflict between different groups and how to represent the views of a large group of people to outside parties.

Hahahahahahahahah I was hoping something like this would be the response.

All but two U.S. Presidents since 1825 have been members of fraternities.

67% of U.S. President's Cabinet since 1900 have been members of fraternities.

76% of U.S. Senators and Representatives have been members of fraternities.

85% of U.S. Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been members of fraternities.

Of the nation's 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by fraternity members.





I like how people who aren't in fraternities like to pretend like they're better than them and that they know everything about the experience because they watched 'Animal House' and 'Old School.'

Like I acknowledged in my earlier post, there are tons of d-bags and idiots in fraternities but stereotyping everyone is about the same as thinking that all black people are like Flava Flav and Chris Rock. Here at Cal, fraternities have a higher overall GPA than the campus average, do eight times more community service and certainly have a hell of a lot better time.

Whatever, I hate having this argument - it always ends up with a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about telling me about my own life.

By the way, it's kind of ironic how similar the "all frat guys are douches and nothing good could ever come of them, and I know this despite never actually being in a frat" mindset is to the "poker players are just degenerate gamblers, and no skill is involved and it's a game of luck, despite the fact that I have never played a hand" mindset of so many people.

I try not to pass judgment on things about which I know nothing, because that's the surest way to look like an idiot.

Frats were completely different in the past than frats are now.

You are an idiot. None of the better posters here are saying all frat guys are douches and stuff. I have lots of friends in frats that are great guys. None of them list the party line BS you just gave us about why frats are good. Cherry-picked statistics are never a good way to support an argument. The GPA and community service points (for just your school) are fine, but is that really the reason anybody joins? For access to class notes and mandatory service that would more than likely never get done without the requirement? The point about people in frats certainly having a better time is pretty self-defeating when you're trying to claim you aren't a stereotype.

My only major problem with frats are the ones that start official rush right when freshmen get on campus without giving them time to get acclimated at all. And the guys that try to claim that nobody else could have any idea what a brotherhood like this is like. I don't need to go through made up adversity with my friends, even the ones in frats, to have a really tight bond with them.