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01-31-2016 , 03:09 PM
Lol

Dat grilled chicken tho
01-31-2016 , 04:00 PM
Just got done with my first weekend over here in France. Our entire school (160 people) went to the alps for a ski trip. All the students stayed in a giant hostel together which made for an awesome time.

Snuck bottles in and partied Friday night with a variety of different people. Ended up ****ing a Pakistani girl at 3am on the hardwood floor of a game room at the hostel. Super out in the open and we would have been screwed if someone walked in.

Went to a "discotheque" i.e. club last night with everyone as well and that was sooo fun. Danced my face off and grinded with a couple girls but nothing more. Was disappointed with myself this morning that I didn't go for it with a couple girls, but it's like a 5:1 girl to guy ratio and I felt sloppy dance floor hook ups in front of everyone might look bad? Idk, what do you guys think?
01-31-2016 , 08:27 PM
The trip is young, dont sweat it. You should put effort into making sure your social group will be as broad (heh) as possible for the trip

Keep killing it, and enjoy
02-01-2016 , 02:01 PM
Saturday night was a 90's themed bar crawl for two friends. Idk how many went but the FB event said 70 going, 40 maybes. I'm younger than most so I chose to dress in my elementary school uniform since I was born in 1990 and replicated my old name tag that teachers have you make for your desk. It was a great way to have ppl automatically remember your name and to just get attention in general since my shorts were way above my knees. It only cost me $19 at Khols for the shirt+shorts too.


The day before I was talking in my group chat about asking our 90's crushes out. Mine is married with a kid but I still sent the message just so I could screen shot it and put it in the event page. Some girls I've never met commented on it saying how funny/great it was.


Also in that group chat is a guy who is a mutual friend of a tinder match. And we were all posting matches we had with mutual friends that day. So when she messaged me first I thought it'd be funny to have her meet up. And she was for the most part down, but said maybe I'll let you know.


She's 32, blonde-russian who was hot but not sure English was her first language so she had no idea what I meant when I told her I showed her to my group chat and her bio was worded very clunky, if that makes sense? So I leave my number in my last message Friday night.

On Saturday the bars started at 5, I pre drank with the birthday ppl at 4. So by like 8pm I was pretty drunk at our 3rd bar. Mostly drinking wine (glasses at the house, bottle at the first bar) and Jameson and an occasional beer. Then this girl basically gave me the "I'm into you" vibes. So I sat by her and by the time we left that bar everyone was well aware we were going to hookup.

But before we left the blonde russian text me saying "hey I'm parking" loll. I was like there's no way I'm capable of finessing this situation, even if I was sober it'd be hard with her not understanding like sarcasm and complicated social situations, and it would take a lot of help from friends but the ones I'm with aren't good at that stuff like my black friends would be.

But when I see her she is talking to other ppl, or at least a guy, so I'm thinking she may know more than just the one mutual friend and she can just mingle. I say hi, she asks if that's my gf, I say no we met tonight. Idk what else I said but I basically abandoned her for the sure thing.

I get one drink at the last bar stop around 9-9:30, already spent close to $100 and am drunk and SDSU girl is there and me and her are not on talking terms after last Saturday (three day binge drinking blurr I never TR'd). So I get us an Uber and we go to her house. We do bong rips and I'm the biggest weed lightweight so it KO's me but we makeout a lot. At one point we wakeup and she blows me on the couch and idk if it's from being cross faded on alcohol with weed and never cumming off blowjobs but I swear when came I felt like it was mixed with me peeing in her mouth. Felt like I came forever.

She went to the bathroom and I remember being so high on the couch paranoid af that I pee'd in her mouth lol. We slept on the couch. I kept trying to get her upstairs but she was extremely firm that wouldn't happen. As well as not having sex. She had a guy roommate so idk if they had some weird dynamic but at one point I was like wait I hear footsteps I think he's coming downstairs, and that made her blow me even harder almost like she wanted to show off. He didn't come down though. I never asked details about it.

We went home from the bars early so in the morning I was pretty rested, fingered her on the couch and tried to have sex but she said no then she blew me again and I finished in her mouth pretty fast. I got an Uber right after and told her to text me when she was up and functioning and she did, that day she sent "just finished brunch, I'm ready for a nap and ninja warrior". Which I thought was very specific and quirky lol. Overall she was very 6/10 but cool.

Here's the convo with 32yo Russian so I think I made the right move. Also she double-texted me like 15min apart so you never know, it may still happen.


I haven't had many random hookups recently or in 2015 in general so it felt good to have a night out like I used to TR a lot of, that doesn't end with me at SDSU's or with Twitter girl or 20yo or TB.
02-01-2016 , 02:10 PM
Not sure I belong in this thread, but I'm 35, largely inexperienced, and recently got divorced after a ten year relationship. It feels like there are a lot of olds here.

I'm ready to slay, but I really have no idea how. Been studying a lot of pua stuff and hitting the gym hard, don't want to spend too much time without getting out there, but I'm so out of touch with what's going on, it's difficult to envision how long it will take me to be successful.

The good news is that I have access to a lot of 21-25-year-olds and many of them crush on me (I teach, and I look young). The bad news is that I don't really even have the skills to escalate with them unless they throw themselves at me.

I guess I'll try to participate here and share with you guys the comedy of my biggest embarrassments.

Example: Was dating a girl for two months, she started losing interest but I'm so out of touch I didn't catch it. Pulled a nasty flake on me where she made up an excuse but told me to stop by later in the evening, I texted later and she wrote "out with [best friend]," then I kept texting her like an idiot that night. Put the freeze on her for a couple weeks, she wrote a lengthy but ambiguous and confused apology e-mail, I responded after a week saying it was cool, we had a good a time for awhile, hope things go well for you.

She instal-responded with an e-mail that read, in part, "OMG! Sex with anyone but you is horrible! I hate it! I will swallow my pride (and something else) here. Can we get lunch?"

I responded enthusiastically the next day, we set up plans for two days after that, about ninety minutes before said plans she texts, "Had a party at work [restaurant] last night, I'm so hungover, are you free this week?"

I foolishly responded, "Lol. Whatever, I've got a lot of stuff to do today anyways. It seems like planned events aren't working for us, hit me up when you're feeling spontaneous."

Anyways, I think I made three key mistakes: 1) I did not realize the first flake was a flake, I thought she was being sincere even though she made a pretty bogus excuse and let me know more than 24 hours in advance. I should have gone silent at that point.

2) I kept texting even after she made it really clear that evening was a flake.

3) I responded enthusiastically to her call for sex when I should have realized she was baiting me and played it cool.

Anyways, been radio silent for three weeks now, no intention of ever interacting with her again. It's tough because right now this is my only option but I know that's not the right mentality to have.
02-01-2016 , 02:11 PM
There is a girl who works at my local Nandos that I saw this past weekend when I was there with one of my mates. When she collected our plates we noticed her accent and I asked her where she was from and she said "Me? I'm from Poland." In a very warm-hearted and appreciative manner.

When we left I told my friend that I thought she was very attractive and that I plan on trying to strike up a conversation with her next time we see her in there.

I would like some advice on how exactly I should try and talk to her next time I see her in there?

Some things to take into consideration:
- I know nothing about her other than she is Polish and works in my local Nandos.
- She is short, 5"1-5"4 and young looking, I'd say between 18-23. I am 5"9 & 21
- She has legit one of the nicest smiles I've ever seen.
02-01-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
There is a girl who works at my local Nandos that I saw this past weekend when I was there with one of my mates. When she collected our plates we noticed her accent and I asked her where she was from and she said "Me? I'm from Poland." In a very warm-hearted and appreciative manner.

When we left I told my friend that I thought she was very attractive and that I plan on trying to strike up a conversation with her next time we see her in there.

I would like some advice on how exactly I should try and talk to her next time I see her in there?

Some things to take into consideration:
- I know nothing about her other than she is Polish and works in my local Nandos.
- She is short, 5"1-5"4 and young looking, I'd say between 18-23. I am 5"9 & 21
- She has legit one of the nicest smiles I've ever seen.
Idk how small the dating pool of women is in your country but this interaction is basically a 0. You should be having these social interactions multiple times a week. I guess you could tip a big amount each time and depending on if she finds you attractive or not it will be seen as kind of gross but appreciated or super appreciated. But you should probably be tipping above average at any place you go to regularly, in general.

Best advice, don't put much thought into this and get out more. If you go to like a music festival or something you'll see a thousand equally hot girls to imagine spending your life with as well
02-01-2016 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodGame
Idk how small the dating pool of women is in your country but this interaction is basically a 0. You should be having these social interactions multiple times a week. I guess you could tip a big amount each time and depending on if she finds you attractive or not it will be seen as kind of gross but appreciated or super appreciated. But you should probably be tipping above average at any place you go to regularly, in general.

Best advice, don't put much thought into this and get out more. If you go to like a music festival or something you'll see a thousand equally hot girls to imagine spending your life with as well
Yea, I know the interaction itself was meaningless. I just thought she was extremely attractive and was wanting some advice on the best way to get a conversation going with a foreign girl whilst she was on the clock at a restaurant.

We don't really have much of a tipping culture here in Scotland. And especially not at Nandos lol.

There's very few things I'd rather not do than go to a music festival and the type of girl that I'd find at a music festival probably isn't a girl I'd be interested in.
02-01-2016 , 03:54 PM
HurtNCYDE,

Nothing you can really do unless you stalk her and try to speak to her when shes not busy but that will be impossible since nandos is usually very busy. Depends how much confidence you have, you can try to have a small convo with her next time she takes your plates and see if she stands around to talk i guess but as GG said there not much you can do.
02-01-2016 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
Yea, I know the interaction itself was meaningless. I just thought she was extremely attractive and was wanting some advice on the best way to get a conversation going with a foreign girl whilst she was on the clock at a restaurant.

We don't really have much of a tipping culture here in Scotland. And especially not at Nandos lol.

There's very few things I'd rather not do than go to a music festival and the type of girl that I'd find at a music festival probably isn't a girl I'd be interested in.
I'm not going to defend music festivals, it was just an example or exercise to see thousands of ppl in one place. It's a good way to avoid the "one-itus" disease that happens in ppl's lives.

Your question gets posted in here like once every 2months and no one knows how to respond to it because it's a very PUA thing. No ones really posting itt trying to get one girl, we're all just trying to become so good that the type of girls that we like are already into us. Plus laugh at ppl's stories. So instead of being a 5 and trying to say the right thing or whatever to land a specific 7, the goal is to become a 7+ yourself and put yourself in situations that lead to dating them.

There's tips on how to ask out someone in person, like don't treat her number as mission accomplished, ask her out to something and then the number becomes a by product of that. But not much else to say you should evaluate why you're thinking about this one girl like that
02-01-2016 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodGame
No ones really posting itt trying to get one girl, we're all just trying to become so good that the type of girls that we like are already into us. Plus laugh at ppl's stories. So instead of being a 5 and trying to say the right thing or whatever to land a specific 7, the goal is to become a 7+ yourself and put yourself in situations that lead to dating them.
Well said. I think this was an a-ha moment for me years ago.

Wrt servers/bartenders just be friendly/flirty and if they make it very obvious they're interested you can pursue. The problem is their job is to be friendly and flirty so overreacting to that will put a lot of guys in awkward scenarios.
02-01-2016 , 05:00 PM
The problem with that is the same problem with lifting.

The day you start lifting is the day you are forever small. -Dom Mazzetti

Once you are easily able to get 7s, then it becomes getting 8-9s. It's a never ending quest to better yourself that to a certain extent will always leave you wanting more. Obviously at a certain point it becomes about having a maximum range of people that are dateable for you so you can find the best person that you mesh with personality wise.

Are we all gonna make it?
02-01-2016 , 08:01 PM
@Brad C.

While I appreciate your enthusiasm at snagging girls in their mid 20s,don't let this idea of them "crushing" on you as a sure thing.

One thing I hate is the double standard of the crush.
If you're a guy with a crush,you want to date that person.
If you're a girl,you can crush on a guy and it doesn't have to mean a thing.

And as for that girl,yeah tell her to buzz off (as nice as you care to).
May lead to a booty call but as long as you still have options,who cares?

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02-01-2016 , 11:12 PM
Agreed, it is anything but a sure thing. But at my current level it is close to impossible. They think I'm 28 though, if I were half as competent as the guys in this thread I would have a decent roi.
02-01-2016 , 11:39 PM
Be careful with PUA stuff. Your post showed a lot of awareness of mistakes which is great news but don't spend too much time worrying about getting the upper hand in all commjnications.

Stay no contact and you'll be good.

Are you a professor? I though it's against code to date students. Are you pursuing grad students?
02-02-2016 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Be careful with PUA stuff. Your post showed a lot of awareness of mistakes which is great news but don't spend too much time worrying about getting the upper hand in all commjnications.

Stay no contact and you'll be good.

Are you a professor? I though it's against code to date students. Are you pursuing grad students?
I'm not a professor, I teach test prep, I can do whatever I want although ransacking a sorority would probably be frowned upon.

A lot of my mistakes with new girl were made because this is the first girl I've dated since my wife and I split, I wasn't super needy but she's really hot and is one of these girls that has 25 blueballers on her jock. I definitely missed some really obvious signs her interest was waning and kept initiating when I should have been pulling back. And then when I pulled back, I made it really obvious I was doing so- sulking instead of disappearing.

But my current class just ended tonight, there is one girl that I am 100% Custer or most of you guys would close on. I'll see her in a group setting at a bar next week for a class party, she might make it really easy for me, but I legitimately am not sure how to make it happen if she's not so kind. I'm living in a room with an air mattress and no furniture because I leave here in four months. Ah, eff it, taking her home to an air mattress is some straight IDGAF awesomeness.
02-02-2016 , 01:49 AM
Taking her home to an air mattress is also a scenario that will happen 0% of the time.

This is exactly one of the points GG was trying to make. Not having a real bed probably lowers your attractiveness by two points, not having furniture another three points (not exact science ldo). You are fighting an uphill battle. Thinking "IDGAF awesomeness" is a thing will make you an automatic 0.

Read Henry's guide on self improvement and go from there. Don't worry about the next four months.

Last edited by Spurious; 02-02-2016 at 01:56 AM.
02-02-2016 , 02:36 AM
To be fair the 4month excuse will help, but lead with that when you walk into the room. Also I'd probably lie and say 2-3months. Buying a cheap ikea bed and selling it for 50% of what you paid 4months down the road seems like a pretty easy decision. And you can still use the "I'm moving in a couple of months" excuse for that ikea bed not being great.

You're older so you're naturally going to attract women seeking stability.
02-02-2016 , 02:43 AM
BTW, I live with a roommate, there's a bunch of furniture in my house. But my roommate is a chick, she's crazy, I can't keep her out of the house.

Said girl also lives by herself after her boyfriend cheated on her, fwiw. So it's not like I'm drawing dead here. I may have misrepresented my problem-- I'm not so much worried about what happens back at the house, even though I very well might fail there. I'm worried about how to get there. I haven't spent any time in bars or dealing with how to isolate people from big groups, I'm half my age in experience.

Honestly might rent bedroom furniture for a few months now.

Last edited by Brad Childress; 02-02-2016 at 02:54 AM.
02-03-2016 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scrolls
Shocking. When girls sent me lame openers, I rarely responded either. All things being equal, why respond to someone with worse conversational skills vs someone who is funny, witty, and/or charming?
I think I am a pretty funny guy when people get to know me but talking to girls I am probably a 3 on a scale 1-10. I graduely learning though and now this evening I got conversations going with 3 girls. The problem for me lately have been to take the next step and going from talking to asking out. Ive decided that the next girl I ask out I will ask out to drinks and sleep at a friends place or a ****ing hotel if needed. Also it is not easy to get good confidence when you have a really good conversation with a girl for 2-3 weeks and when you finally ask her out and she flakes and doesnt respond.

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Originally Posted by LT22
I'm shocked a girl 1.5 hrs away flaked...
Maybe I shouldnt be surprised.

Its just that getting a women is like climbing mount everest.

I messaged with an old acquintance and we spent a day together with some other people and got a good connection. Now this sunday she basically gave me an open goal to ask her out to dinner and I wasnt sure what to do so I havent asked her just because I am afraid that I ask her and she declines and we cant hang out anymore.
02-03-2016 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Also it is not easy to get good confidence when you have a really good conversation with a girl for 2-3 weeks and when you finally ask her out and she flakes and doesnt respond.
If it's taking you 2-3 weeks to ask the girl out for something as simple as drinks, you're most definitely doing it wrong.... Why are you waiting so long?
02-03-2016 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Also it is not easy to get good confidence when you have a really good conversation with a girl for 2-3 weeks and when you finally ask her out and she flakes and doesnt respond.
I remember experiencing that early on and telling myself "never again." If a girl is attracted to you and is entertained by the conversation she will meet up in the first few days. If she's on there just for attention/entertainment with no plans of meeting people, it doesn't matter how long you pen-pal her, she ain't saying yes.

Meeting sooner rather than later is best anyway as that's when interest is piqued. After weeks of talking that initial excitement wears off and you become a pen-pal.
02-04-2016 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Taking her home to an air mattress is also a scenario that will happen 0% of the time.

This is exactly one of the points GG was trying to make. Not having a real bed probably lowers your attractiveness by two points, not having furniture another three points (not exact science ldo). You are fighting an uphill battle. Thinking "IDGAF awesomeness" is a thing will make you an automatic 0.

Read Henry's guide on self improvement and go from there. Don't worry about the next four months.
Would anyone have Henry's guide as a PDF file they could share through a site like dropbox? Scribd needs at least an account, and probably a subscription...
02-04-2016 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Also it is not easy to get good confidence when you have a really good conversation with a girl for 2-3 weeks and when you finally ask her out and she flakes and doesnt respond.
Next time try not to talk for so long before meeting, If you talk for 2-3 weeks she knows all about you so that defeats the purpose of the date. Theres a difference between talking as friends in a circle and actually going on a date in the evening and talking.

Re the confidence thing, what i did was tried to concentrate on my successes and see how far ive come. For example there was a time when i struggled to talk to girls or even get numbers, so when i started getting more numbers and approaching more girls i can look back at the time when i couldn't do that or like when i started getting more dates after getting numbers, you can then look back at the times when you didst get any dates and celebrate those successes, that was key for me.
02-04-2016 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scrolls
I remember experiencing that early on and telling myself "never again." If a girl is attracted to you and is entertained by the conversation she will meet up in the first few days. If she's on there just for attention/entertainment with no plans of meeting people, it doesn't matter how long you pen-pal her, she ain't saying yes.

Meeting sooner rather than later is best anyway as that's when interest is piqued. After weeks of talking that initial excitement wears off and you become a pen-pal.
+1 to this too

      
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