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Old 02-26-2012, 05:39 AM   #36976
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Re: SL "Ask Out A Girl" Thread: Home of A+ GG TRs

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I been meaning to write a TR for a while, but I dont wanna put anyone through that. Lately its like everything goes great for a while and I'm poised to succeed, then last second somehow snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Told the chat about what happened Friday, tonight was not great either.

At some dance bar, meet girl, she's pretty cute, good body, tits and ass, red hair, start chatting to her, we have a bunch in common, we start dancing, she is spinning and doing girl stuff, we grind a little (nobody else was grinding), and she seems to be loving me. Her friend is talking to my friend, and she keeps interrupting my girl and then all 4 of us dance but my girl is checking me out etc. My girl never initiated contact with the other girl, which made me think she was enjoying it. This was for like 30 minutes. Then it all goes to ****:

I ask her about dance and then show her a salsa move, except when I take her hand I realise there are no fingers there. I'm sort of stunned and try to roll with it, but it's kinda messing w my head. Finally I realise she just has a thumb. So I obviously try to make it seem like I didn't notice, but then I turn around and my friend is gone and I'm like wtf is going on and then the girls go to the bathroom and my friend comes back and he's like wtf and I'm like yea man exactly wtf that girl has no fingers but then I compose myself and resolve to just deal with it and decide I'll bring her home anyway or at least make it out with her. They are gone forever and in the mean time I mess up some girl's hair cause that's the money move these days but they weren't having it. The girls are gone like 10 minutes and I'm like f this they're not coming back. Then to my amazement they come back and I'm like ship it let's get a taxi but before I can speak my girl is like I'm sorry but we gotta leave was nice meeting you and she's already walking away before she finishes so clearly doesn't wanna ship digits (no pun intended).
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:50 AM   #36977
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Awesome TR. She must be great at hiding it if you spent 30 minutes in close contact with her and didn't notice.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:55 AM   #36978
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Re: SL "Ask Out A Girl" Thread: Home of A+ GG TRs

Reading DoubleD's post first then going back for GCGs led to a different ending then I expected.

How is messing up girl's hair the money move?
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:35 AM   #36979
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Inxu,

Did you find this forum through Thremp?.
I have never seen this person so no. I just used "forum main page" (or whatever its called).
Also think you have a pretty bad poker face, I think she spotted it and left with shame (I mean it not your fault, neither is it hers, but people get insecure about those things).

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How is messing up girl's hair the money move?
I think its money move, because he will need to have money to buy a new shirt after my blue lagoon lands on it.

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Old 02-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #36980
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Reading DoubleD's post first then going back for GCGs led to a different ending then I expected.

How is messing up girl's hair the money move?
i actually think messing up a girl's hair is a fine +EV move as long as the context is appropriate. kind of a fun/playful way to show she's beneath you/you don't respect her.

lol @ her not having fingers though. wasn't expecting that. i think you played it off well though. how long did she dance for after the no-finger discovery? sounds like she got embarrassed and just wanted to leave. you didnt do anything wrong.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:57 AM   #36981
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As far as genetic disadvantages how bad is balding. I shave my head which occassionally gets women tocuhing the shaved head, but I still feel like it sucks because a lot of girls would not like that look at all.

How about having a big head in general? This one I'm not sure but I think Id keep my big head if I had the choice
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:21 AM   #36982
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I think my daily upkeep requires about 25-30 minutes (shower shave hair dress) and if you add workout and other stuff henry suggests to it it quickly adds up, like haircuts, clothing care and shopping for clothing etc. I find it hard to believe anyone could do that in 10mins/day, or even 30 minutes.

Anyways, that's not why I posted, I have a few mini-tr's that each on their own do not really warrant a post but maybe combined they do.
Four out of five start the same way, I predrink at home and because my roommates are lame I go out alone to the same bar most Friday nights (Mittens' recommendation btw, I still wanna buy you a drink for that if you're ever around!)
Usually I'm standing around for 10-15 minutes at first before approaching anyone or getting approached because I'm still too shy, but I'm usually dressed pretty fly for this environment. It's a pretty chill, social atmosphere bar where the music is good but not too loud to talk a lot.

First night, because someone asked me to take a photo of them I end up talking to this group and only the guy of them doesn't have to leave early. Not ideal, but I might as well make him an impromptu wingman, which he actually does better at than I expected. We opened a 3-girl group, and he focuses super hard on one of them, and I bounce around between the other two in about a 70/30 ratio. I don't know exactly what he's doing, but all three seem to have fun. After about 20 minutes it's near last call and the girls just blatantly state they want to go home. I'm obviously not happy with that as I think the situation is going to ****, but the other guy asks to go with them for an afterparty in one of the most puppy/begging ways I've ever seen. Weirdly enough, they agree and we all take a cab together. It's a weird turnaround, but by that point I'm pretty sure he's gonna score with his girl, and the girl I spent most of my time on basically sits on my lap in the cab. The 3rd girl and his girl live together, so that's where the cab drops us off, they go out, I try to take my girl with me but she says she's married (without wearing a ring, but she somehow does have her marital papers on her, wtf tease, she was just out to feel wanted) so I resort to just partying with the other girls.
The other guy guides the girls into their building and comes back to pay the cab (exploiting naive guys for free cabrides ftw) and the two girls already go upstairs in their building and apparently lock us out. The other guy clearly wasn't doing as good as I thought. He actually tries breaking in with his creditcard, tries to pick the lock with his own key, walks around the building to get the back door and whatever, but obviously he's not getting in. Pretty hilarious were it not for the fact I couldn't find a cab anymore and had to walk home for 45 minutes.

Second night I got there when there was a line which has never happened before so I started rambling to those in front of me. When finally getting in, I connected with the same group (2 guys 3 girls) inside again, starting with some comment about the line. They all had to leave pretty soon because they were from out of state and flying back the next day, but I leveraged it into talking to some other mixed groups.
Ended up with some dude in real estate who was basically making it rain and 3 other girls. This time they invited us to their afterparty on their own initiative.
So we take a cab to their home, they pay for it, and we enter their house. Weirdly enough they basically say **** it and go to bed without paying any attention to us two guys. I'm asking myself how I keep ending up in these weird situations, I'm obviously doing something wrong. I don't want to go home at that point because it's late, I'm tired and hungry. I find some chili in their kitchen, eat most of it, check out their bedrooms on the second floor but all the doors are closed. The other guy just blacks out and sleeps on the couch, but one of the girls has her bedroom on the ground floor and didn't close her door. She's lying there in her king bed with her clothes still on, so I go '**** it' and lay next to her and immediately fall asleep.
Wake up at like 9am with a strong feeling of not knowing wtf happened. I just lie there to recover, look around to encourage my memories to come back, and about 5 minutes later she wakes up as well. She turns around since I was semi-spooning her, we have like a five second direct eye contact but she doesn't say anything, she gets up and walks up the stairs. Pretty strange, she didn't even seem surprised or offended that I was there sleeping with her.
I hear her talking to some other girl upstairs and decide it's a good time to get the **** out of there without any trouble and take a bus home because I'm pretty sure I can't leverage this into anything more.

Third night, I have a ****ty night at the bar. Talked with a few people but it didn't convert into anything. I get home, and while I'm eating something in the kitchen I hear loud music. I'm not tired yet so I try to find out where it's from. It's from our direct neighbors, so I knock on the door. It swings open since it wasn't locked, and there's several people standing in the hallway which are obviously really afraid I came here to complain. I explain to them that's not what I came for and I just want to party. Just to make sure they give me a drink and order the hottest girl at the party to dance with me (she's at least a 9 even though she's not really my type) just to really make sure I don't start complaining. I'm instantly the most hated guy in that house, especially since the ratio was already bad before I got there. They were all South American and I was the token white boy, plus the fact what I was dancing with their hottest girl made all the guys there pretty jealous, and I don't wanna ever encounter them in a dark alley. The girl however, expecting a white boy not to know anything about SA culture asks me if I can dance. I reply with that I've never had lessons but can follow a rhythm pretty well. She challenges met to properly dance with her on a salsa song (luckily I know the few basic steps to a salsa which take like 5 minutes to learn) and I dance with her at a reasonable level, much better than what she expected at least. She starts grinding up to me more and more and pretty soon the host of the house tells me I need to gtfo because the party is shutting down. She doesn't have a phone (****ing imported South Americans) but she practically begs the host to get my number and invite me for the next party. I obviously never heard from him again.

Fourth night, I strike out with a few groups, one guy overhears me talking though and is interested in where I come from because I have an accent (as I said before, being a foreigner always gives you easy material to talk about). His group of 3 guys is actually pretty fly and they hit on girls etc. so they're not the typical chumps. That is my initial impression though, but at the end of the night they don't seem to be able to bring anyone home. They promise to make up for it however by introducing me to their two female roommates and letting me share their best weed. Their two roommates however both brought a guy home which was kind of a bummer, and the weed was sub-par compared to what I'm used to (but I'm Dutch, so pretty spoiled in that aspect). Still, even though it wasn't that good it took me 1.5x as long to get home since I was still reasonably high. I actually am still in contact with these guys and I hope I can leverage that into something else (either girls or a solid drug connection (I don't smoke usually myself but it's always very helpful to have a contact)).

And wow, this is turning out be to much longer than I expected.
The fifth mini-TR I want to share is something completely different though. This is the event that actually made me want to post, but I just wanted to add some more body to the post.
There's a girl I work with which I've been my usual sarcastic self to and she seems to eat it up. She's in between very sexy and acceptable, but she's close to my preferred type so visually quite pleasing. Due to me working with her though and other reasons I haven't really put any effort into seducing her though. She however seems to totally be into me and asked me out on a semi-date yesterday to get ice cream after work (we work late so it was after dinnertime) and I agreed. 97+% of my girl interactions before this were with alcohol involved so this was a new experience for me, I'm not even sure it was a date. Usually when I talk to her it's really fun, but short. We talk about whatever and I get to engage her in a variety of topics and I really enjoy her company whenever I see her at work.
However, last night we spent like 1-1.5 hours together talking and she is just obsessed about the one sport she's playing professionally (which also got her her scholarship so I can't blame her really). I was actually quite bored at the end, which has never happened to me before.
It was a pretty enlightening moment, my first non-drunk date and the first time I was actually legitimately bored by a visually attractive girl. I'm pretty sure this was an important life lesson concerning girls since this was the first time I fully realized attractive girls can be completely boring. I have almost zero dating history before this because most of my girl encounters were at parties/bars and one night stands.
I mean, don't misunderstand me, I'd still hit it, but unless I can force her to mostly talk about other topics I don't want to go out with her again. When I saw her today though she still seemed really happy to see me so I'm either grossly misreading signals here (which could be a possibility, she's Texan who are supposedly really nice and outgoing which I have no real experience with) or she is a typical sweet nice girl on which the 'shut up and listen and make a sarcastic comment here and there' game actually works. Which would be cool because that's pretty much the easiest thing to do.

TL;DR cliffs:
-One night go home with girls, they don't want us in and lock us out, other guy tries to pick the lock without results obviously.
-Other night go home with girls, they immediately go to sleep and I end up sleeping with one of them in her bed and she isn't even surprised when waking up.
-Third night I crash a South-American houseparty as a white boy quickly become the most hated guy there because I'm stealing their hottest girl.
-Fourth night I find a good weed connection and some guys to go out with another time, yay progress and social circle expansion.
-Also, date(?) with girl from work, not sure if serious or she's just being supernice.

And just for the record, I have normal nights with regard to pickup and girls as well, but those are much more boring to post about so I don't.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #36983
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As far as genetic disadvantages how bad is balding. I shave my head which occassionally gets women tocuhing the shaved head, but I still feel like it sucks because a lot of girls would not like that look at all.
You know the bald hair feels so awesome (just when the hair starts to grow back). Caution - this hairstyle doesnt suit everyone.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:53 AM   #36984
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Hey, I was there before him!
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:00 PM   #36985
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i actually think messing up a girl's hair is a fine +EV move as long as the context is appropriate. kind of a fun/playful way to show she's beneath you/you don't respect her.
I can't imagine a context where it would be appropriate. Girls invest time in their hair to look good. I can't imagine how destroying the results and negating all their effort ever be seen as a positive.

I also don't like the motivation of trying to show she is beneath me and I don't respect her. That sounds like PUA mentality in that it takes a perfectly good point of don't be a puppy dog who is in awe of a girl but instead of just stopping at the appropriate behaviour it instead shoots right to the other extreme.

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As far as genetic disadvantages how bad is balding. I shave my head which occassionally gets women tocuhing the shaved head, but I still feel like it sucks because a lot of girls would not like that look at all.
Bald depends. For some guys it is horrible and for others it is negligible or even a small positive. Being short is worse and how bad being bald is dependent on height. Tall guys can be bald without much impact.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:38 PM   #36986
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Tall guys can be bald without much impact.
I dont see how bald goes with height, I would rather say that the shape of the head is big factor.

As its thread is dating advice, Im going to ask a question that remotely goes with dating. I have found out that some guys take forever to call you (and Im talking about 2 months to one year - I have long forgotten them) - why is that?
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:48 PM   #36987
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I don't think guys calling months later or a year later is normal.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:49 PM   #36988
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Tall guys can be bald without much impact.
God I hope this is true.

(Not that I'm bald, but I'm bracing for impact given the symptoms.)
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:08 PM   #36989
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I don't think guys calling months later or a year later is normal.
Me neither, but that happend more then once (and not by the same guy). I know that one guy called me two months later, because I said I will be out of town for next two months, but for others I have no excuse.

I really dont remember every weird thing that I have encounter, but one I remember was in the early morning - taxis are hard to find at weekends so me and my friend toke the bus. So we sat down and behind us were sitting two guys and suddenly one of them asks if my name is Ingrid (so my first thought is - great I will have the awkward "sorry I dont remember you" conversation again). I turn around and ask "do I know you?" and he answers - "No, but I know you, you went to that and that schools right?" - "How to you know that" - "Oh I know one of your former classmates" (in that time I had not talk to named classmate for over 5 years, possibly more and while I was attending that school we didnt really talk that much). Im master at finding the weird ones .
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Everyone in Estonia knows each other though as there's only seven people in each school year. I had that happen about 75% of the times I went out in Tallinn - an Estonian friend would run into someone they went to school with.
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