ggggahhhhh I should have known that post would affect my karma.

We saw the movie, walked to a nearby bar afterwards and had a few drinks together just talking about w/e. Like my usual self though I was failing hardcore at trying to physically escalate things and go from conversation to trying to generate attraction...so, she has this tendency to be extremely animated with her hands when she talks, and I had commented on it at one point earlier in the night. She was doing it again so I kinda wildly waved my hands around like I was imitating her, and we were standing close to each other so our hands touched when I did this, and my right hand locked with her left. Boom! So we were holding hands for awhile while continuing to talk, and eventually during a break in conversation I went in for the kiss and she was receptive. We make out a little bit, I mention things are getting a little PDA for a bar and ask if she wants to go somewhere quieter (lol I feel so terrible at this), she says sure but she needs to go to the bathroom first, so she goes off and I make that post above while she's gone. She comes back, we leave shortly thereafter and walk back to her car, and I thought everything was gonna be great until she says "can I give you a lift home?" (I had walked there, theater was only about 15 blocks from my place). GGGGAAAHHHH so we make out by her car and she takes me home and we make out a little more and I get out and here I am.

But, I guess my negative reaction can only really be attributed to what is probably a mischaracterization of older women's tendency to give it up on the first date. She's pretty cool and I like hanging out with her though, so assuming she doesn't meet her husband soon (she was up front w/ me about wanting marriage and kids and all that stuff soon, but was cool with hanging with me in the meantime) I'll prob see her again.

that doesnt sound like a failure of a date imo

x2, seems like it went pretty well for a first date

absurd karak-like overreaction by you there goofy

+1

(The self-awareness in your post made me laugh too.)

i have nothing to add except for LOL

i hung out with both these girls this weekend and it appears the first wants to be friends and the second im not sure about.

the first, we ate lunch together and then i drove her home from school. we got along pretty well, but she never really presented an opportunity for me to really escalate anything or guage what she wants, though she mentioned her boyfriend yet again, so i dont think this is looking good for me. still, id like to get with her so im not gonna give up yet.

the second went much better imo. we met for dinner and she gave me a big hug right away, and then while we were waiting she kept touching my hand and stuff. we got along good and then it was time to go. she gave me another hug, and i thought i should kiss her, so i gave her a peck on the cheek cause i hadnt really initiated any contact yet. it was a little awkward on my part i think, she was pretty much indifferent to it from what it seemed. went alright though i think.

It could be this

OR

It could be that she doesn't want to be in a relationship at all since she just got out of one. She might still be down for a FWB thing for a while. Especially since you already have a history.

It sounds like you did pretty well GB. More than likely there will be sexy time at the end of the second date.

Haha, ty for the perspective guys.

So for my 18th bday we go to a casino/resort.

It was easier then I thought to pick up girls. We had a nice party and I got a ton of #'s.

Now I liked 1 in particular and she was into me, even though I was a bit drunk. I am going back to the casino in a couple days, should I tell her I am going and see if she wants to meet up?

goofy how old are you out of curiosity?

and was the movie watching awkward? i imagine it would be. but you didn't mention anything so i suppose it went swimmingly?

Yeah goofy it sounds like it went B+/A- TBH. Good work brotha.

I'm 25.

Movie wasn't really awkward or anything, we'd spoken a little online so we kinda joked during previews, we had like 15 mins before the movie started.

was this the 40-year-old

last night:
went to a pretty big party last night. i saw the girl that sent me on life tilt so hard one night when she gave me my redwings. also saw a bunch of ppl from HS and ppl i've met in other areas at parties. there was a group of girls that are all like 5-7's (also one 8 that i'm trying get at, holler) that hangout with my group of friends a lot. it was pretty funny to see girls go to parties where there's a lot of other more attractive/slutty girls around. u can kind of see it hit them and they're thinking like "OH ****, i actually have to have a personality to stand out"

anyways despite all the females around i didn't hookup with anyone. one girl i've met before asked for my # but meh. the cops came pretty early so like half the ppl left, then the cops left so a bunch kept partying but i was on the pong table all night so i kind of missed opportunities. at the end of the night i was ready to settle with some cute girl with glasses and then her friend started being a **** so i did the worst/best move and said "calm down your acting like a C***".

today:
a girl called me (who used to be friends with my ex, zing) asking if i knew anything going on tonight. i was busy with something so i kind of rushed the convo and said no but i'll let her know. i ended up texting her later and said she should spend the night tonight. she said "ok, i'll see if i can find a ride". she doesn't have her car for whatever reason so that tilted me. also tilted me cuz if i wasn't such a procrastinating donk and actually got my license i'd be getting laid like 3 times more often

GoodGame, do you already have a car? If so get your license ASAP. As you said it will help soooo much

38, thanks.

ya. i just procrastinate everything... which is why i play poker for a living and post on this forum

So I've been talking to this girl on gchat a bit during work on Thurs/Fri and also this afternoon/evening, we really seem to hit it off chatting and I'm really excited to meet her on Tues.

Cute story about that btw - I just looked at her Facebook profile and a girl who I presume is her roommate posted this on her wall 7 hrs ago (when I was talking w/ her on gchat, and to put it in context she was also studying for a chemistry exam while we were talking):

"i can hear you typing and somehow i don't think it's about chem!!! lol"

Ok, this is going to be a long post from my phone, so don't mind the probable lots of spelling misstakes. Also, yay for smartphones on long train rides.

This isn't really a one girl askout or relationship thing, but more a general thing about my life right now.
I'm in my early twenties, at uni 4th year now. I'm still a virgin, and horribly failing at taking the girl opportunities everyone is saying you should grab with both hands during this time. During highschool I was almost a hermit, extending my epeen as much as possible, which kinda led me nowhere. At like, age 8 I was pretty much a pimp, but I had zero social skills left after highschool. So I rolled through uni as the autistic kid, have 3 close friends and some people I know through them, but I'd never hang out with those alone. My studies are going fine btw, no problem with that.
Anyways, no girl friends or anything, and at parties I just wallflower or get very drunk and dance my ass off without caring about girls.
In general I don't really feel like I need sex or whatever, but some intimacy or at least smeone I like that I can uit now and then would be awesome. (wow that sounds emo :l) For the record, there are girls I'm attracted to, I'm not asexual. Also, I read somewhere recently that you should grab every opportunity, even if you think you won't regret it.

So, I guess the point I'm making / question I'm asking is, how do I go from general autistic wallflower guy ( but I do loosen up with my good friends or people I'm really comfortable with ) to a guy that can get some girls?
As said before, I'm not looking to get laid every night, I just want to spend quality time with a girl I like.

And I know there is no magic bullet like 'do this and win life', but there have to be concrete things I can do to better myself.
Also, this might be very vague, and I would appreciate any input, and maybe not detailed enough so I will answer any question besides who I am in real life, for I think obvious reasons

when you get wasted and start dancing why dont you dance with girls?
on your way to getting wasted is there no point between wallflower and crazy dancing guy where you have some liquid courage?

you seem to realize your problem. you speak of grabbing opportunities, they dont have to mean hooking up with people. you go out to parties so you do social things- other people (girls) are there to socialize. take advantage of that and talk to them. who cares if you suck at it at first but you have to at least go for it otherwise you arent gonna get anywhere. even if you are just going up to girls and asking the basic laundry list of questions you ask when you meet someone and the convo ends at least its a start.

To the panda gimmick. Half of the game is just showing up. You need to get out and get experience. I understand it's difficult, and you probably just don't know where to start. What you need to do is improve your ability to meet people and to extend your social network whether its men or women. There are several ways to do this. I think the best way for you would be to get involved in a hobby that you would enjoy and meet people in that hobby. I say this because when you're engaged in something conversations tend to flow much easier.

So I just talked to a neighbor of mine (really really cute). I was out walking my dog and she was on her porch and we got to talking. We ended up talking for a good 30mins to an hour or so, and got along really well. Anyway, I told her she should come over and watch a movie at some point (we were talking about movies a lot), and actually suggested the original clash of the titans(lol claymation) since she was telling me about it. She was very receptive to the idea, and I got her number and dropped the "I'll text you something witty so you can have my number". Now I guess I just need to get her over here at some point this week, and try to escalate things physically so I don't get friend zoned. Anyway that's my TR or whatever.

Line check x-posted in BBV4L online dating thread...

So like I said, the 38 year old woman is only really hanging around until she meets someone her age to date, when we went out on Saturday night I thought she mentioned something about having a date w/ a husband candidate on Sunday, and then today I texted her just to say "hey, I had fun hanging out with you on saturday night, hope your week is stating off well" and she responded "hey, I had fun too, week is starting off well, I have a date with a future husband candidate tonight! " which makes me wonder: should I tell her that I'm going on dates w/ other girls also?

It just struck me that I might kinda look like a chump to her if she's under the impression that I'm sitting here on my ass while she goes and dates other guys that may supplant me - would it make me more desirable to her if she knew I also had dates lined up with other girls? i.e. if I said "good luck! I have a date with a potential girlfriend candidate tomorrow night, we'll have to compare notes afterwards" or something.

i would be unlikely to ever go out with a chick (err... lady i guess) again that sent me texts about other dates with "husband candidates"

going on a date with someone who is 38 is so weird to me... how did you feel about it? did it bother you at all?

and im bitching about the 19-year-olds

This is a one way ticket to friend zone.

While ultimately that might not be bad here, my guess is you want some action before that happens no?