Yeah, but she knows your friends so there is a lot of potential to meet up with her again through your social circle. Just try to get her number at that point.

yeah we'll see. i might just stay in tonight. im so tired of the chick drama to be honest. like last night was (no romo intended) supposed to be just a bunch of guys hanging out and the only reason B got involved is because she kind of invited herself. then this other girl we know invited herself and brought her friend along. her friend is easily one of the most obnoxious, irritating and annoying people i have ever met in life. all my friends cant stand her and netiher can i.

so most of the night we just kind of avoided them until they got pissed off and left (B didnt leave obv). so now i have to deal with that fallout when i go into school today. on top of all that i easily blew over 100 dollars at that place last night, and it was not worth it. if we are gunna blow 300-500 dollars, we might as well do it somewhere nice and not some mid-level club downtown.

oh i forgot to add i blew up a **** test last night. B was with her friend at another bar and they kept texting us "we might come to where you are. are there drink specials there?"
me "no. this isnt the type ofp lace that has drink specials on a friday night. my friend will buy you drinks."
"oh well now she wants to know if x and y are there. she said she's only coming if they are there and you guys buy us drinks."
my reply: "im sorry you both are too demanding for us. enjoy your night."

she was there 45ish minutes later

she just "knows" them from living in the dorms together 4 years ago.
they arent really friends.

my options:
1) add her on facebook and be in platonic-land
2) dont add her and hope i see her out again, even though last night was the first time ive seen her out in 2 years of going out.
3) add her and do what every creepy guy itt does and try to spit facebook game which obviously doesnt work

you'll run into her again in your social circle. dont add her on facebook.

She's not been on Fb so I just text her asking how she is, good night, etc, asked if she wanted to come over later for a film etc.

I'm a massive dog here though I think.

my opinion of you just changed. that was pretty money

i dont think i will--ive never run into her before.

Karak, your last line was gold. Teach me.

Err... maybe not?

yea, i blew a lot last night on shots for me and a buddy when we just planned to go watch the colorado game, and it definately wasnt worth it. halfway through the game they put on the opening ceremonies full blast (its a sports bar wtf?) and tilted me sooo bad. insta-8 shots at our table when that lesbo was singing. got wasted, made buddy puke, unfortunately it was in the cab tho...

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TUTS - Add her on FB and in the message say something like "Can't believe I forgot to get your number last night! Let's meet up next week and catch up some more" Obv you can say it better than that and maybe mention something you guys could do.

Karak seems to be a bit bipolar with his awesome handling of situations and poor handling, he seems to be good at recovering though.

Wonthyme - Change your attitude ASAP bro, you're worrying way too much IMO, think and act like you're worth it, stop consistently thinking that you've ****ed up your chances

Love reading this thread because it's so obvious how and why people are failing yet we all know it's a lot harder in the 1st person. Sharing these stories should be great for everyone's confidence. I think the hardest part is not putting it on a pedestal, once you can get over that and not care what girls think of you(too much at least) you'll be wayyy better off.

lol yea i was pretty damn proud of myself. the guy with a gf kept saying "let's just go to where they are or try and convince them to come here" and my reply every time was "**** that i dont beg people to hang out with me. if they want to hang out with us, they can show up themselves. im not going there."

also on the way home he started hitting on her again, and i dropped the most awkward gf word bomb on him. i mean he was in ****ing mid-sentence and i just perk up and go "oh **** man! you should do that on your v-day date with your girlfriend tomorrow!"

B insta goes: "wait... you have a GIRLFRIEND?" (gf or no gf no way B was hooking up with this guy anyways)

he seriously tried to make my head explode with his eyes and i started laughing my ass off.

haha. well, i think a lot of my issues recently stem from bad table selection. my first semester went really well, but a lot of those girls started to bore me. for some reason im always attracted to psycho women and it causes **** like i post about on here to happen. in all honestly deep down i think i actually enjoy the drama sometimes. it amuses me and i love telling the stories about it.

but every once in a while it gets to me. when i start looking to settle down ill try to find a sane (proportionally so) girl, but for now i think im well entertained enough by the wild ones. plus, and LKJ can speak to this, law school girls are just not normal for the most part. neither are law school guys, don't get me wrong, but we can hide it better. lawyers are just weird people man.

yeah im pretty pissed off at gf dude. the other guy is one of my best friends here and to his credit i did have a long convo with him last week where i said hooking up with B would be a big mistake, but that was back when i was trying to get with A and i think he just misunderstood. plus i feel bad for him cause he never gets anything with girls and is still hung up on his ex. honestly the biggest crush he's had this year at law school has been on C, and he was starting to make a move on her. he actually came up to me and asked me what i thought, so i had to tell him the whole story and that i had hooked up with C.

on another note: martiro that story was awesome man. karma baby. nice work.

it's funny i was just thinking about that this morning. i either handle things golden or i **** it up. what's the one element that's always present when i **** it up? alcohol.

however, as you pointed out, my damage control is A+. it seems like i run excellent ****ing damage control every morning after some sort of meltdown occurs, which, honestly, just sets up another evening for another meltdown.

i also always carry a super arrogant, self-confident attitude with these situations too. even when things are going into the ****ter, i'll never show that it is bothering me. sometimes i get too arrogant, but i think it helps me work through any mistakes.

and yeah, as you said, it's really easy to give advice objectively here. honestly it's just like poker. you want to discuss things enough that they become second nature. like the line i dropped to blow up the **** test? didnt even have to think about it. just did it. my buddies were all like "dude you just pissed her off with taht. no way she comes now."

BUTNAHHHH

how so? care to elaborate a bit? just curious

honestly a post on abovethelaw recently put it better than i ever could. it linked to this quick "how to date a lawyer" guide:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc...-date-a-lawyer

some of them are meh, but some of them are SPOT ON for me at least. see: 3, 7, 8, 9 for sure.

and here's a snippet from the abovethelaw post (http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/valen..._editors.php):

Downside: Any argument you have will be terrible. Count on it. Male and female attorneys fight with extreme logic and intellectual rigor on their side. Have you ever fought about whether the argument calls for rational basis review or strict scrutiny before you argue about what inappropriate thing was said at a dinner with friends? Have you ever had an emotional point dismissed as “non-responsive”? Has anybody ever shouted “but you can’t prove damages,” after they concede poor judgment in staying out till 5:00 a.m.? I’ve done all these things, or had them done to me. If you’re not prepared for all of that, date a doctor.

haha

For example, don’t say, “Let’s head back home early for some fun.” Instead say, “Let’s return early to the domicile for some malfeasance.”

man that article makes me want to steer clear from lawyer chicks.

wondering if there are any reports of this working before i try it.

from what ive seen/done/read, getting dates via facebook has rarely worked. im trying to think from itt if anyone has successfully worked the facebook game.

Karak, no Romo, but I really want to go out drinking with you one night.

i personally wouldn't try it b/c it seems creepy/desperado to me, but im sure its worked for some people

There is always secret option D. Next time you or one of your friends throws a party invite her.

I think this is ok. It's direct and to the point. It's a lot better than just friending her and trying to creep into her life with ******ed wall posts.

still waiting for a thayer story.
had the same thought, just dont want to wait til then.
i had it all planned to ask for her number last night, but my friend told me she had a bf. dont know why he would say that. ugh.

haha we have good times. i usually get to my best form when i have caffeine + alcohol, but honestly i'm quite capable of being an ass sober. i like to be the center of attention too much sometimes and make an ass of myself.

however i have little to no shame, and it really only bothers me when i make people mad that i care about and then, like i said, i can run good damage control.

Hopefully from now on you can keep going until you hear it from her.

+1 on martilo, that **** was seriously heartwarming. Well done.

As to law school girls...I wish I could back you on this one Karak, but I really really like the vast majority of girls I go to school with, including the ones I don't want to hook up with. In fact, I won't hesitate to describe them as down to earth, and most are really easy to get along with. Even the situation girl that was so hot-and-cold and all over the place toward me wasn't doing anything that I haven't seen out of other girls before I was ever in law school. It was frustrating as hell and obviously really got to me, but I don't think that I can chalk it up to her being a law student.

I might just be lucky when it comes to who I go to school with...but while I'm very much on board with blanketing girls as crazy, I don't think the law school girls I've dealt with are more crazy than the average girl.

Ok so I texted her about 7pm. I also have plans with flatmates to go out for drinks for her birthday. We begin drinking, and she replies about 10pm, "are you still up for a film, sorry I only just got your text". I'm undecided, but obviously being too soft, I say "yeah cool, just having a drink with friends, be back on campus in abouthalf an hour".

Obv I leave after my drink, but feel like a complete ass, I was having a good time and I know I shouldn't have just put her first like that, but I can't help it. I nearly turned back on the walk home a couple of times, but bottled it. So she's on her way over. Better be good imo.