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05-31-2011 , 09:00 PM
GG,
It may be time for a new avatar.
05-31-2011 , 09:04 PM
oh wait lololol you are referring to "taking back" BG? you mean after our... 4 week fling that wasn't serious at all? man, have you ever been in an LTR? do you understand what it's like? a relationship that lasts 2+ years? it's a completely different story. BG was never a serious thing. yeah she made me feel stupid and pissed me off, but she was never, ever in a TRILLION years marriage material and never would be. two completely different worlds.

i have a feeling you are mixing me up with someone else, though, because it would just be absurd to compare the mbp stuff and the bg stuff. bg was just me getting involved loosely with a young girl who got around while i was still reeling from an old relationship haha.

could also be my ccuster theorem at work where you are unknowingly on a really high level because anything else wouldn't make any sort of rational sense!
05-31-2011 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
oh wait lololol you are referring to "taking back" BG? you mean after our... 4 week fling that wasn't serious at all? man, have you ever been in an LTR? do you understand what it's like? a relationship that lasts 2+ years? it's a completely different story. BG was never a serious thing. yeah she made me feel stupid and pissed me off, but she was never, ever in a TRILLION years marriage material and never would be. two completely different worlds.

i have a feeling you are mixing me up with someone else, though, because it would just be absurd to compare the mbp stuff and the bg stuff. bg was just me getting involved loosely with a young girl who got around while i was still reeling from an old relationship haha.

could also be my ccuster theorem at work where you are unknowingly on a really high level because anything else wouldn't make any sort of rational sense!
I am making a comparison, of course they are similar when both simplified. It is two people not acting logically when 3rd person parties give out quality advice, but both male parties involved instead act on emotions. Obviously theres a huge difference in the details, one being a 8 year relationship broken by cheating the other being a causal fling broken by a girl being a huge mess.

Also your post(s) is very hypocritical. Have you ever been married? Yet you feel grounds to give advice on what a married person should do?

The situations simplified:

Guy involved with girl
girl does something "wrong"
people tell guy that this is a deal breaker
guy ignores advice and gives girl another chance
05-31-2011 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCubsGo
A simple rule is that if you tell a troll they're not very good, they're probly pretty good. Sometimes CCuster's barbs are so penetrating I almost wince for you behind the keyboard. He is good. Give him that.

Karak, how do you resolve your new dating style with the fact that 18-22 year old girls are the hottest? I used to think I had an older woman fetish myself until FG came along. Comparing her to my previous 19 yo gf, I found her to be something like a Buick Century compared to a Lotus Elise. Maybe more dependable, knows what it wants, built to last, but the Lotus is lighter faster and holds my attention for longer, even if it is more dangerous.

Old but attractive girls are so exceedingly rare, and the few ones that do exist are almost always either milfs or desperate to get married to the richest bastard that will **** out a kid with her. I could be 6'5" and built like a brick ****house and they would still choose thremp if he had Mittens' $.
haha "wincing" from "jabs?" ccuster's stuff is child's play compared to the things i and many others deal with on 2p2 every day, especially as moderators. if i couldnt handle that, i would have killed myself by now. the only trolling which ever really bothers me is teh lynch-mob style stuff. that does get to me, but i think that'd get to most people. the thing that tilts me about ccuster is when he takes really obvious levels at complete face value. that and he likes to make all sorts of criticisms when he pretty obviously has little to no LTR experience himself. that's more funny than tilting, i guess. that's the last ill say about that issue.

re: the older women,

older? they are like... 25. many women around 25 are very attractive and single, especially in DC where many women are career focused. they aren't like old 38 cougars. it's a pretty common belief that dating in DC is a very good environment for the late 20s professional. also the median age for marriage is shooting through the roof (now like 28 for men and 25 for women adn rising fast).

yeah 19-20yos have bodies 25yos can't, but i dont really care about that. girls in their mid-20s are still very attractive, and when i am seeking out a future mate, i care about more than just how hot she is. i was running around with younger women because it was a) easy, b) not serious at all and c) helped me distract myself from finally processing through what happened my last relationship which, as ive shared, was a near marriage that trainwrecked absurdly quick.

and im trying to come up with a way to say this without sounding like a prick, but... i mean im not an ibanker like mittens and that's not a level of $$ many in the legal field won't touch (but can). however, DC is a city which centers very much on the legal and political industry, unlike NYC which is very financial centric. i go to... the best law school in the city ainec and the jobs im positioning myself for right now are lobbyist positions and/or spots on the hill which are pretty prestigious. im also a pretty sharp "talker" IRL (i generally dont act like a complete jackass like i do here... 2p2 is my outlet for much of that), and im pretty confident in my ability with women who are career driven and smart. ive done well with them in the time ive tried to focus on it here.

so yeah. ive met a ton of really cool, smart and well-put-together women in the last few months and im pretty excited about meeting more. hopefully one of them adn i will click sometime in the next 5 years. until then im focusing on my career and meeting all kinds of people (not just women, but colleagues and professionals in my industry who have been invaluable contacts already) in the city. i really love it here.
05-31-2011 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I am making a comparison, of course they are similar when both simplified. It is two people not acting logically when 3rd person parties give out quality advice, but both male parties involved instead act on emotions. Obviously theres a huge difference in the details, one being a 8 year relationship broken by cheating the other being a causal fling broken by a girl being a huge mess.

Also your post(s) is very hypocritical. Have you ever been married? Yet you feel grounds to give advice on what a married person should do?

The situations simplified:

Guy involved with girl
girl does something "wrong"
people tell guy that this is a deal breaker
guy ignores advice and gives girl another chance
cool, but i think the reaction to my posts ITT and its damn near identical nature to many posts from people who i respect highly speaks for itself. feel free to disagree, but you're in a stark minority and you are also in no position to really judge.

also, assuming your line of logic works (it doesn't as the two situations are ABSURDLY different given how high the emotions run... BG took me 2 weeks to roll over - altho final tabling the sunday mirrion and winning the 100k with my AMAZING heads up skills definitely helped - something like this can take 5 years to get over), it would make me actually quite more qualified to give him advice rather than less qualified. do you see why?

regardless, BG never has any commitment to me, we are going to go on a first formal date, she gets with another guy... i take her to lawl prom anyways cause why the **** not, hilarity ensues, we all laugh at karak and life goes on 2 weeks later. this is something very standard that happens to every guy. now if you knew the story of my ex, you might be able to get somewhere... but you dont know the story! raha!

a guy dates a woman for 4 years, marries her, buys a house with her, is together in marriage for 2 years and she ****s a golf pro at a resort. he's staring at divorce, a huge financial situation and a woman who has been devoted to him for 6 years lying her ass off all over the place and manipulating the **** out of him.

yeah man, they are similar. lolololol you are going to some amazing lengths here! you really do love me!

anyways im not arguing this anymore as im 1001035235% confident in the advice i gave him (also please note it's on par with 99% of the other posts in that thread). you are just not in a position to really understand mbp's situation, but you will some day and you'll see why his behavior is really bad for him, both emotionally AND legally.
05-31-2011 , 09:18 PM
Some day he'll see why MBP's behavior is bad for him legally?
05-31-2011 , 09:18 PM
I very curious as to what criticisms of LTR I have given, I have already said I dont date girls cause girls my age are insane in the head.

I have given advice to Vintage off site regarding the whole moving in with CRC, thats about the only time I gave any advice(that I can remember) regarding serious relationships to any poster itt.
05-31-2011 , 09:19 PM
Walls of text ITT
05-31-2011 , 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I very curious as to what criticisms of LTR I have given, I have already said I dont date girls cause girls my age are insane in the head.

I have given advice to Vintage off site regarding the whole moving in with CRC, thats about the only time I gave any advice(that I can remember) regarding serious relationships to any poster itt.
im referring, obviously to your criticism of mbp criticism! we are going deeper.



yeotajmu is also currently trying to show me artistic pictures of beach and sea shells. he thinks they are "****ing stupid as ****." his plan is to lay on his belly and take low angle photos upwards on the beach and get famous. thoughts?
05-31-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Some day he'll see why MBP's behavior is bad for him legally?
yeah i talked to some people who KNOw people and i googled

but in all seriousness, it appears this condonation ****, depending on the state, is some serious **** in differentiating at-fault adn no-fault divorce, which can obv be a huge swong.
05-31-2011 , 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karak
cool, but i think the reaction to my posts ITT and its damn near identical nature to many posts from people who i respect highly speaks for itself. feel free to disagree, but you're in a stark minority and you are also in no position to really judge.

also, assuming your line of logic works (it doesn't as the two situations are ABSURDLY different given how high the emotions run... BG took me 2 weeks to roll over - altho final tabling the sunday mirrion and winning the 100k with my AMAZING heads up skills definitely helped - something like this can take 5 years to get over), it would make me actually quite more qualified to give him advice rather than less qualified. do you see why?

regardless, BG never has any commitment to me, we are going to go on a first formal date, she gets with another guy... i take her to lawl prom anyways cause why the **** not, hilarity ensues, we all laugh at karak and life goes on 2 weeks later. this is something very standard that happens to every guy. now if you knew the story of my ex, you might be able to get somewhere... but you dont know the story! raha!

a guy dates a woman for 4 years, marries her, buys a house with her, is together in marriage for 2 years and she ****s a golf pro at a resort. he's staring at divorce, a huge financial situation and a woman who has been devoted to him for 6 years lying her ass off all over the place and manipulating the **** out of him.

yeah man, they are similar. lolololol you are going to some amazing lengths here! you really do love me!

anyways im not arguing this anymore as im 1001035235% confident in the advice i gave him (also please note it's on par with 99% of the other posts in that thread). you are just not in a position to really understand mbp's situation, but you will some day and you'll see why his behavior is really bad for him, both emotionally AND legally.
lol at this whole post

Again i was speaking of what was happening it terms of simplified facts, never to I actually integrate my opinion into my posts(fwiw my opinion is very similar to the majority of people in that thread), but I know that I am not qualified to give advice.

I also lol'd at you again bragging at how your posts in that thread are "on par" with everyone else. Con****ingrats, you act like that should be impressive, there are very few people in that thread posting anything different.

And its not a matter of whether you can give a correct opinion regarding his situation its whether you should be telling him your opinion and are qualified to tell him. But then again this is talking bout a thread on an internet poker forum regarding a cheating wife, where everyone is a qualified therapist and knows all important details from both parties.

Im honestly curious if you feel qualified to give advice to mbp, not whether you think your advice is correct.
05-31-2011 , 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karak
im referring, obviously to your criticism of mbp criticism! we are going deeper.



yeotajmu is also currently trying to show me artistic pictures of beach and sea shells. he thinks they are "****ing stupid as ****." his plan is to lay on his belly and take low angle photos upwards on the beach and get famous. thoughts?
Cant i hop on the same argument and ask why you think you can give all sorts of criticisms when you obviously have never been married?
05-31-2011 , 09:31 PM
sure, but im not telling other people they can't give criticism of MBP, at least not originally. im saying that to you to point out the absurdity of it going the other way? does that make sense? i dunno ive confused the **** out of myself now, and this argument seems really dumb. only slept 2 hours last night.

and in answer to your question of whether im honestly think im qualified to give him advice: if you can't figure that out from reading my posts, im afraid any answer i give you will go ignored! ive also been one of the strong advocates of him getting professional advice and NOT solely relying on 2+2 advice
05-31-2011 , 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LKJ
GG,
It may be time for a new avatar.
I agree with this, and I also think Karak needs an avatar that doesnt have a santa hat in it.
05-31-2011 , 09:33 PM
Containment thread?
05-31-2011 , 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karak
sure, but im not telling other people they can't give criticism of MBP, at least not originally. im saying that to you to point out the absurdity of it going the other way? does that make sense? i dunno ive confused the **** out of myself now, and this argument seems really dumb. only slept 2 hours last night.

and in answer to your question of whether im honestly think im qualified to give him advice: if you can't figure that out from reading my posts, im afraid any answer i give you will go ignored!
Telling people they cant give criticism of a persons actions doesnt require knowledge of what the person should do.

Find me an art major who has never gotten above C in any math class in her life, and have her criticize a mathematical proof from a Harvard professor, and I can tell her to gtfo without any knowledge on the proof or the contents of it.
05-31-2011 , 09:34 PM
@mittens:

no thanks! very few posters have ever been quite this obsessed with my posts (over such a long period of time too... over a year now), and i find it a little weird tbh. it all started after i ft'd the sunday mil and won the 100k, which i think speaks quite plainly for the motives here haha. im done now!
05-31-2011 , 09:35 PM
Only if the containment thread is a catch-all that includes rap also.
05-31-2011 , 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
wp

Also I am not going to say that I believe my trolling effects karak, but it takes a weird kind of "unaffected" to, on numerous times, multiparagraph responses(which i really dont read, just skim). And then claims to do it to get me enraged "again", where it has never happened once. But meh, tone is hard to pick up through the written language in such short posts I make, especially cause I dont try.

The funny part is i assumed this all happened when I called him ****ty at HU, or delusional, whichever way you would like to read(i believe both).

But then again we are referring to the same person, who iirc, "got back" together(in a light sense seeing as I dont think they were ever really dating), with a girl even after she through up major signals that its prob not worth the time and shes a complete mess, but than, less than a year later(my timeline might be slightly off), has enough wisdom to go around telling a man who has just been cheated on by his wife stuff like this:

"Also, am I the only one who thinks whether or not she had sex with the guy (though she likely did) is completely irrelevant? The "emotional cheating" alone is enough, much less the basic physicality she admitted to. All of that is absolutely marriage ending and I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise. Can you imagine the structure of a marriage after this event?

His wife was sending sexually charged texts to another man, including referencing leaving their SOs, was fantasizing about him and (after repeatedly lying about it) admitted to kissing him, an act which is highly physical and emotional. Is them actually having sex really necessary for OP to realize their marriage is dead and he can't trust her? No way."

I dont know what type of people on 2p2 are qualified to give mbp advice, but i doubt someone who has acted very similar(practically taking a person back after major things happened, and eveyone says he shouldnt) is someone that can fit that description.

But then again this whole post is me raging cause Karak's getting under my skin...damn let it happen again
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Your advice was advice that had be stated like 50+ times before you from 50+ different posters...thats like me saying:

"Speak quietly and carry a large rod" and saying I am really good at making meaningful quotes

And I was referring to BG, when you were really into her, than she ****ed a creeper dude or whatever at a party after texting you about how creepy he was, than told you in terms of getting raped, or some absurd girl gonna girl drama. Everyone told you to stay clear the girl is not going to work out well with you(what everyone is telling mbp now), but you insisted on getting even closer to her after a small break(iirc), again what mbp is about to be doing now, and then guess what the **** happen. You got "lets just be friends" bombed dropped on you and were devastated. Now you seem to be an expert on "cutting off" ties to a person that has thrown up a lot of signals that doing so is best, when everyone around you told you what you "should" do.

But maybe I got the whole Bg drama wrong I am just doing it off memory, and I didnt really study that ****, probably read a good percentage of the posts and skimmed/skipped the rest.

Also your last post is baffling as I have zero clue what you are referring to. I have never spoken my opinions on the whole mbp stuff.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I am making a comparison, of course they are similar when both simplified. It is two people not acting logically when 3rd person parties give out quality advice, but both male parties involved instead act on emotions. Obviously theres a huge difference in the details, one being a 8 year relationship broken by cheating the other being a causal fling broken by a girl being a huge mess.

Also your post(s) is very hypocritical. Have you ever been married? Yet you feel grounds to give advice on what a married person should do?

The situations simplified:

Guy involved with girl
girl does something "wrong"
people tell guy that this is a deal breaker
guy ignores advice and gives girl another chance
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I very curious as to what criticisms of LTR I have given, I have already said I dont date girls cause girls my age are insane in the head.

I have given advice to Vintage off site regarding the whole moving in with CRC, thats about the only time I gave any advice(that I can remember) regarding serious relationships to any poster itt.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
lol at this whole post

Again i was speaking of what was happening it terms of simplified facts, never to I actually integrate my opinion into my posts(fwiw my opinion is very similar to the majority of people in that thread), but I know that I am not qualified to give advice.

I also lol'd at you again bragging at how your posts in that thread are "on par" with everyone else. Con****ingrats, you act like that should be impressive, there are very few people in that thread posting anything different.

And its not a matter of whether you can give a correct opinion regarding his situation its whether you should be telling him your opinion and are qualified to tell him. But then again this is talking bout a thread on an internet poker forum regarding a cheating wife, where everyone is a qualified therapist and knows all important details from both parties.

Im honestly curious if you feel qualified to give advice to mbp, not whether you think your advice is correct.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Cant i hop on the same argument and ask why you think you can give all sorts of criticisms when you obviously have never been married?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I agree with this, and I also think Karak needs an avatar that doesnt have a santa hat in it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Telling people they cant give criticism of a persons actions doesnt require knowledge of what the person should do.

Find me an art major who has never gotten above C in any math class in her life, and have her criticize a mathematical proof from a Harvard professor, and I can tell her to gtfo without any knowledge on the proof or the contents of it.
you sound mad
05-31-2011 , 10:33 PM
yeota did mehmeh ever see this? if she did i'm curious what she said.


05-31-2011 , 10:43 PM
Worked late didn't get to see jenn tonight but I told her I wanted to talk and told her what about. I talked to katie on the phone and explained that basically she can STFU about me to jenn and that I won't respond on anymore **** she has to say to me unless it is an apology to both jenn and I. Obv she was mad and obv couldn't give a reason for why she started this ****. I also said I knew she likes me which she denies. She was very defensive the whole time. Hopefully will see jenn tomorrow
05-31-2011 , 11:31 PM
Need a bit of advice on a girl situation:

My sister has been lucky enough to have a close circle of friends since literally kindergarden. They talk constantly, all come on our yearly beach trip, etc etc. And ofc over time I've gotten to know they pretty well. One of them, we'll call her A, is pretty much my exact duplicate in terms of personality/interests, down to the kind of yogurt (key lime) or pizza (Napoli) we like. It's freakish at times, stuff will come up like TV shows that neither of us know each other watches and we'll be watching it for the exact same reasons and like the same characters etc etc. She's also going down the exact same career path I am (medicine) so basically we have a ridiculous amount of stuff in common. Add to that the fact that she's pretty much exactly my type physically and personality wise and it would be weird if I wasn't attracted to her.

Problem lies in the fact that when we're in contact it's because she is there to see my sister, which leaves virtually no room for 1 on 1 interaction, and she goes to school in about 3 hours away from where I live currently so there's no real way to initiate a 1 on 1 thing myself. This is the kind of girl I could see myself being in a long-term relationship with so I'd love to get something going despite the distance even if it's just non-serious stuff that lays groundwork. One of the schools I'm applying to this coming fall is located in the same city she goes to school at so it is a possibility that I would have the opportunity to actually start something serious, but I don't plan on going to this school solely because she's nearby when I don't even know where I stand. For all I know I've been friendzoned for the past 5 years. I don't think I am, but I'm well aware I could be fooling myself so ask away on past interactions and judge it yourselves.

Basically I'm looking for help/advice that gets me to the point where I know if it's worth it to seriously pursue and how to reasonably do that with a person 3 hours away without coming off as a abrupt change of behavior.
05-31-2011 , 11:36 PM
Don't know about the developing-a-relationship-with-someone-3-hrs-away thing, but I'd probably tell my sister that I like her friend and ask her if she's cool with me asking her out on a date, and then I'd ask her out on a date when she's in town. Presumably you have a good relationship with your sis?
05-31-2011 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Don't know about the developing-a-relationship-with-someone-3-hrs-away thing, but I'd probably tell my sister that I like her friend and ask her if she's cool with me asking her out on a date, and then I'd ask her out on a date when she's in town. Presumably you have a good relationship with your sis?
yeah I'm well aware long distance relationships are a horrible idea, which is why at this point I'm not looking to start anything serious. What I want to find out is if there's anything possible there since if the answer was yes that would factor into my school choice.

I have brought it up in a hypothetical sense with my sis before and her answer was along the lines of "I would have no problem with you and A dating if you both wanted to". FWIW I don't think anybody in the family would object, they joke that she's an unofficially adopted daughter so if we actually did start dating they'd probably be insanely happy, but she's rarely around (think maybe 2-3 weeks a year) and obv. when she is she + my sister + the other friends are all constantly together doing stuff since they rarely get the chance to see each other anymore and I am not willing to deprive them of that. A lot of the time it's stuff I'm a part of, like drinking at the house, but still there's no chance for any 1 on 1 interaction and it's not the kind of thing where we could just split off.
05-31-2011 , 11:58 PM
So if this girl, who you have never dated or interacted with a ton 1 on 1, expresses an interest in dating you, you will change which school you attend?

I think you need get more experience with women so you can make better decisions. Also, how old are you?

      
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