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Originally Posted by Dave D
To OP- This thread is the definition of attention whoring. I mean it's not like this came up in another thread or something (did it?) and you found some article from like 6 years ago about it. It's not like it's been all over the news or something. I think we're just reacting to how random the topic is. For most of us it's probably extremely obscure and you act kind of like we've all heard of it but have been curious to know about it or something.
Point taken. I couldn't care less about attention whoring though, I haven't made a post in months and nobody knows me on here.
I just had some free time and thought this might turn into an interesting thread and people might be interested in the topic. Especially since there are fraternities at North American universities as well. I may have been wrong, meh.
Anyway, I can see how this topic may bewilder you, having heard nothing about it, so I will try and give a quick summary.
Student fraternities have existed in Germany for over 500 years. They were forbidden most of the time (they aren't today) but existed anyway. About 400 years ago students were granted the right to carry weapons, because they needed a way to defend themselves on their long and dangerous journeys to their universities. Up to that point only the aristocracy was allowed to carry weapons. As they started to fight duels among each other to solve affairs of honour, the "mensur fencing" slowly developed. Back then people died on a regular basis. Around 1850 the weapons and the stance changed, and since then death is not possible anymore. The "mensur" is a highly ritualized battle with clearly laid out rules. Strokes go towards the head, but serious injury is made impossible by protective clothes. Cuts however are possible. You only fence against members of other fraternities. Every member of a fraternity has to fight a certain number of "mensurs" in his student life that differs from fraternity to fraternity. I myself have to fight 3 of them, others have to do 2, some 5 and very few even 7. This doesn't mean I can't do more when I'm done with the 3 mandatory ones if I want to.
The fencers can't move their feet or their body. Only the arm that carries the weapon can move. It serves as a protective shield at the same time as does the blade. Here is a picture of a student in full protective clothes that is about to fight a mensur.
Taking photos and videos during the mensur is strictly forbidden. There is however a german movie that shows the mensur fighting kind of realistically. Watch it on
youtube, around the 4:40 mark. The real thing is faster, they couldn't train the actors long enough. Apart from that it comes pretty close to the real thing.
Every fencer gets photographed after his "mensur", but there are hardly any photographs on the internet. That's because they are kept private by the fraternities. Here are some pictures that I did find on google. Viewer discretion is advised.
Very old Mensur picture
I assume about 20 years old
stitching afterwards
Now, this may look a bit crazy. Truth is, that most "mensurs" end without anyone getting hurt. The only way to get hit is to make a mistake. If both fencers fence without flaws then nothing can happen.
One last thing, the article I posted in the OP mentioned that most members of fraternities come from rich families. That is NOT true, nor is it a requirement to be admitted to a fraternity. In fact, most of my fraternity brothers are normal guys from normal families who do normal things any student does. We party with lots of "normal" people so it's not like we only hang with each other and indulge in weird rituals all day. Some of us live in the Fraternity house, some don't, it is not a requirement.
Ok, this shall be enough for now. Ask any questions.