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Old 06-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #16
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Re: 400k students in the streets of Quebec

As a general rule, no one pays sticker unless your parents are rich. The numbers are so high because the people who pay that subsidize poor people. Also there are lots of schools that don't cost nearly that much that are just fine.

Try again Canadia.
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As a general rule, no one pays sticker unless your parents are rich. The numbers are so high because the people who pay that subsidize poor people. Also there are lots of schools that don't cost nearly that much that are just fine.

Try again Canadia.
Sorry, I'm confused...Can you elaborate please?

also everyones got a 4 year, you really need 8 years imo
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:27 AM   #18
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So glad I left this place after high school; what a bunch of self-entitled twerps with no concept of reality and basic economics. They can consider themselves lucky they didn't get kicked out of Canada because they would be a third world country without all these free hand outs from working Canadians from other provinces.

Also: if they had spent 4 months flipping burgers rather than "demonstrating" they would have made way more than the few hundreds they are trying to save without costing tax payers and authorities so much resources.
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with getting your tax money anymore!

Offshore banking is the Real World, as they keep the people distracted, scared and confused a globalized financial system enables corporations and the ubber rich to operate beyond authority. The consequence to this uneven access to tax avoidance is austerity to you! The corrupt media omission -one half of the world trade passes via "tax havens" that's a trillion dollars a day! - John Christensen

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Re: 400k students in the streets of Quebec

that thread is one of the stupidest and most downright wrong OPs ive read that hasnt been instantly locked for trolling
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:29 PM   #20
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As a general rule, no one pays sticker unless your parents are rich. The numbers are so high because the people who pay that subsidize poor people. Also there are lots of schools that don't cost nearly that much that are just fine.

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Sorry, I'm confused...Can you elaborate please?

also everyones got a 4 year, you really need 8 years imo
In the US, when you apply to college, you usually also apply for financial aid which means your parents submit an application called the FAFSA that lists their income and other stuff like how many kids they have in college etc. It varies by school, but most people get some aid, and the poorer your parents are, the more aid you get. Admission to the school is usually "need blind" and most schools have a policy of meeting "100% of demonstrated need" which is usually determined by a formula on the FAFSA. It's not a perfect system, but it means that only the more affluent pay full sticker price, most other people get a discount.

There are also plenty of decent to great public universities with much lower tuition (but still have the same need based aid policies).

There are also lots of merit scholarships. Also lots of people get scholarships based on sports. Yes they are usually time commitments, but unless it's football/basketball/baseball, chances are that most everyone (including coach) realizes that you're not going pro and need to spend time on your studies. There are lots of obscure sport athletes that don't really require the same time/physical commitments, because the schools have to balance out their spending on the big sports with smaller ones due to something called Title IX. The % of students who go on an athletic scholarship varies, but at my school I think it was around 10%.

While having a 4 year degree has diminished value these days, that's less true when you're talking about something useful like math/science .

We're making fun of these protestors because a few hundred dollars a year, in a recession, is really nothing compared to what we pay and means the students will have to work maybe an extra week to pay off this increased debt.

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why work for a few days when you can protest for months
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All of this because the cost of going to school is going up.

I think you actually have to be Canadian or actually live here but not actually in Quebec to understand what is going on.
Students in Quebec already pay the lowest tuition in the country.

Quebec also thinks they are special. Sorry had to say it. At one time they wanted to separate from Canada. It's a very very long story that you can research on line. There are still a number of people who would rather they go their own way to this day.
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Offshore banking is the Real World, as they keep the people distracted, scared and confused a globalized financial system enables corporations and the ubber rich to operate beyond authority. The consequence to this uneven access to tax avoidance is austerity to you! The corrupt media omission -one half of the world trade passes via "tax havens" that's a trillion dollars a day! - John Christensen
as successful poker players, maybe yer not aware that WE are part of the uber rich. Sux for you.
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that thread is one of the stupidest and most downright wrong OPs ive read that hasnt been instantly locked for trolling

been indoctrinated much? do you really believe it's about a few hundred bucks in student fees that motivates 400k people to demonstrate?
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In the US, when you apply to college, you usually also apply for financial aid which means your parents submit an application called the FAFSA that lists their income and other stuff like how many kids they have in college etc. It varies by school, but most people get some aid, and the poorer your parents are, the more aid you get. Admission to the school is usually "need blind" and most schools have a policy of meeting "100% of demonstrated need" which is usually determined by a formula on the FAFSA. It's not a perfect system, but it means that only the more affluent pay full sticker price, most other people get a discount.
Oh I see why I'm bitter, cause my parents made too much to get me financial aid, and they didnt make enough to be affluent enough to be able to afford any of the schools with football teams...except for 2year JC which have terrible football programs

oh never mind my situation is ancient history...the middle class doesnt exist anymore in the US...nothing to see here folks move on, just kids feeding donuts to pigs

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Old 06-11-2012, 07:20 AM   #28
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these kids are a ****ing joke.. I was in montreal when this all started and was walking through their crowd.. they're protesting over $300 TUTITION increase to bring tutition to something like a whopping $1300/yr...

GTFO whiney little **** heads..

I can tell you the residenst of montreal are SICK of it.. every cabby i talked to was like, "Pay the damn tutition and go back to school.. stop clogging up the roads"
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Oh I see why I'm bitter, cause my parents made too much to get me financial aid, and they didnt make enough to be affluent enough to be able to afford any of the schools with football teams...except for 2year JC which have terrible football programs

oh never mind my situation is ancient history...the middle class doesnt exist anymore in the US...nothing to see here folks move on, just kids feeding donuts to pigs

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your parents probably saw the truth and chose to save money on someone who wasnt four-year college material
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these kids are a ****ing joke.. I was in montreal when this all started and was walking through their crowd.. they're protesting over $300 TUTITION increase to bring tutition to something like a whopping $1300/yr...

GTFO whiney little **** heads..

I can tell you the residenst of montreal are SICK of it.. every cabby i talked to was like, "Pay the damn tutition and go back to school.. stop clogging up the roads"
lol you ****** retard you don't even know wtf you're talking about. They're protesting over $325 per year increases that will increase annual fees to $3800. That's more than $300 TUTITION DURR HRURR RUHFUDFHSDUFHDUF

It's called tuition you t.wat. Most of you acting like tough internet warriors have no idea about Quebec's economic situation, how we are taxed through our asses yet our services and infrastructure are ****, and how much our government is corrupted.
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