You can also do it at their registration kiosks

Would really have liked to play again at the Wynn this summer but only 1 measly PLO which is before I arrive and the rest Holdem? How about some variety? I understand Holdem tournaments draw more runners but with this schedule youre clearly saying to mix game players to go elsewhere. seriously in 6 weeks only 1 non holdem tournament?)

Incorrect, can register and pay in-person at the Rio at kiosks.

I'd guess that Poker Rep meant 'Only the WSOP', rather than 'WSOP only'.

then what does "online registration" mean in that sentence, given that no other series even has online reg. He pretty clearly meant that he thought you could only use credit cards for WSOP if you are regging online.

I understand that this shouldn't be in the Wynn thread, but since this was posted here, I should point out that I don't think this is strictly correct. The only way you can use credit cards for in-person registration is as a cash advance. It's in the WSOP FAQ, Page 2.

https://www.wsop.com/2017/FAQs%202017%20WSOP.pdf

Full information is here: http://www.wsop.com/registration/

Bottom line is you do have to do "online registration" to use a credit card, but after the first one which takes 72 hours to clear, you can instantly register through Bravo and then use the credit card at kiosks at the Rio to pay, and it is a purchase, not a cash advance.

FasTrac was the kiosk. My guess is that throws some who didn't use cards last year...

I wish ALL of the properties would set their systems up to allow for registration using cards. Makes things A LOT easier for some of us...

Casinos are not set up to allow gamblers to use credit cards very easily (for good reason). My guess is the WSOP operation is much more divorced from the casino hosting it than a typical poker room is from its casino, which is probably why the WSOP can offer this service. I wouldn't hold my breath about other venues going in this direction, but I suppose anything is possible. One thing they might do is make a partnership with an entity like pokertickets.com. That was a service I used at times in the past when I wasn't able to arrive in sufficient time to live register, however the fees were high so, its not something I enjoyed doing.

In any case, people have suggested a number of alternatives you can use to avoid carrying tons of cash. They may not be as convenient as just swiping a credit card at paying the 3% fee, but they're available if you plan ahead.

I don't think PokerRep or any other TD has it out for mixed game players. But he is in the business of making money, not providing variety for variety's sake. I'm certain if the popularity of mixed game variants were 1/10th as high as the volume of those who clamor for them, you would see many more mixed game options.

Actually, almost every casino I have been in during the past decade has been set up to make it relatively easy for someone to get a cash advance. Now even the ATM is set up for it...but with a cash advance, high fees often attach and the interest clock starts ticking as soon as the cash is tendered by the cage or machine.

But poker entries have not been treated as a cash advance. Rather, they are a purchase that is no different than any other online/kiosk purchase.

It appalls me to see people turning their noses up at whatever means of payment makes it easier to get more butts into seats for tournaments. It would be different if the casino was having to absorb the juice for a credit card transaction, but they aren't. It does not negatively impact the prize pool. Some of us ARE willing to pay for convenience. Opening an account with a megabank so I can go into a branch in Nevada is NOT convenience. Having to deal with wiring funds is NOT convenience. Having to carry $10K in cash is NOT convenience, especially when I cannot ALSO carry my trusty Colt Z40 for protection while carrying said sum...

Instead, I no longer am apt to make a spur of the moment decision to enter or re-enter an event because I decide I am bored that afternoon/evening or have been knocked out prematurely...

Has anyone played the Wynn ME before? How is it compared to the other ME? field size? structure? Play?

Hi Maciej, I'll let someone else chime in regarding the experience compared to other venues. I'm a little biased.

Last years Championship Event had 1030 players over 2 starting days. The structure is great, and provides 3 full days of play.

See the structure here:

http://www.visitwynn.com/documents/W...100_NLH_1M.pdf

A cash advance transaction is not the same as a purchase. There are typically no spending limits on purchases up to your credit limit, however there are typically daily, or other periodic limits on cash advances. This is how banks protect themselves from fraudulent transactions, for which they are liable.

The bottom line is you are dealing with a casino, not a regular merchant. The regulations involving financial transactions for a casino are more strenuous than a typical merchant. This is why you can't just swipe your credit card at the tables to "purchase" chips despite the fact the casino would love to be able to let gamblers do this.

Its comparable to other 1600 tourneys at the Venetian and PH. The structure is great for this buy-in level, probably even better than the other venues, since its a Main Event and the other 1600's are not.

They are relatively new to the summer series game, however the Wynn does a good job running their events. I don't think they will have any problem eclipsing their guarantee, so you do the math as far as expected field size.

I haven't played a tournament in the Encore Player's lounge area yet, but I suspect it will be a pretty comfortable place to play, as I have gambled in that area when it wasn't in poker mode.

I've played 3 or 4 MTT NLH events at the Wynn and the players tend to be similar to what you'd see at the Venetian. There will be some recs (though recs who have money) and also a bunch of pros and wannabe pros. You'll also see a smattering of poker celebrities.

Tournament entries ARE processed as a regular purchase.

As to cash advances on a credit card, the only limits I ever encountered were the limit to the card. They are not typically like debit cards with a daily limit. If I want to go in and run a $30K cash advance on a credit card and it does not put me beyond my limit, it would go through. I would be paying interest like nobodies business from day one in addition to probably a 5% hit on the point-of-transaction fee the third-party charges, but it is still an option.

Contrast that with tournament entries, where I can process $30K in entries (using the same number as cash advance) and it is a purchase. Period. If I time my payment cycles right, I got free use of the bank's money for the billing cycle (plus the third-party fee) as long as I pay it off at the cycle after the transaction posts. Played properly, it could actually get me almost two months with no interest...

Some of us DID put our entries in WSOP on cards last year so we have actual first-hand knowledge of how these things processed. Not allowing players the option to put entries on a card IS reducing entries by some amount...I know it is going to impact my decisions with respect to the Wynn Summer Classic. If they had the option to pay the entry with a card like the WSOP, I might be more inclined to enter their events...just as they made their decision, so to will I make a business decision.

I think you're missing what I'm saying. To my knowledge, the WSOP is the only place in the US that had non cash-advance CC options on their tournaments, and last year was the first year they did it. I don't think the other casinos will be following suit any time soon for all the reasons I laid out. They may lose SOME entries, but I doubt it will be enough to make them go through the headaches of offering the service. Who knows, maybe cash will be dead in a few years and we will all be using some sort of electronic method for purchase.

But for the present, you have plenty of options. These may not be as convenient as swiping a CC, but are not that bad, seeing as they have been in place for many years and no one has lost their ***** over it.

Winstar allows tournament entries via credit card, treated as a purchase. Choctaw used to but now most banks run them as cash advances.

Played the PLO tourney today. Great place to play, well run, great dealers, and floors were very attentive. A+ experience.

And it was 8 handed which was awesome.

Wynn is quickly becoming my fav

Are all WSC-tourneys 8/9 handed? @Poker Rep.

Edit: read structure sheets now, 10 handed until FT for most events, correct?

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Great to hear, thanks for playing!

No no no, I think you misread! We play all NL events 9 handed, including the FT (one of the few spots we disagree with TDA).

The structure sheets for NL note "The final table will be played 9 handed" simply because it is a departure from 10 handed TDA. Sorry, I can see where this might lead you to think that all tables are 10 handed prior to the FT. I will note this and add a bullet in the future. Thank you.

We play PLO cash and tournament 8 handed, with the exception of 1-2 PLO, which is still 9.

Why do you do it that way? Is it because at 10 remaining, the 2 tables are 5/5 and therefore balanced, which makes it work?

I'll be there today for my final tourney on this trip to Vegas - looking forward to it!

Where do we register for the tournaments? The same chip cage the cash players are in line for to buy in / cash out? Or somewhere else during Summer Classic?

Hi TR3. Yes, most events the registration will be in the poker room at the regular cashier cage. There will be a few (final flights of multi day) where we will move a few steps away into the center of the Encore casino at the Red Card desk so we can accommodate larger fields. During those days there will be plenty of signage.

If you happen to be here early don't forget to get a Wynn Red Card. That is the longest part of the registration process.