And dare I say it... I also agree with u akashenk for the most part

1. To my knowledge, the Venetian is the only place holding any official two-day tournaments mid-week, outside the WSOP... though I doubt very much they play to the final table on day one. They probably don't even make the money, or its very close. These are slightly higher buy-ins than your stated desire ($600), but they may suit your needs.

2. As I mentioned in some other thread, the problem with this request is it would require rooms to hold non-NLH events on some of their juiciest NLH days in order to coordinate with the WSOP schedule. If they had unlimited space, this would be no problem... but they don't, so they aren't going to take the risk of having a half empty room.

The Wynn will do much better than Binions. I think the Venetian missed the boat with their series. I think the fact that they didn't get the floor space at Palazzo is the factor behind that. The number of tournaments have been reduced at the Venetian and I don't think they will get the numbers they had in the past because the Wynn and Aria are offering tournaments in the $300 range. Venetian's $400-$600 tournaments have been reduced from previous years and $200 tournaments have basically been eliminated.

I think the DSE mid-week tournaments will be fine compared to previous years. They've got some attractive guarantees, As for their weekend tournaments, that I'm not so sure about. There seem to be better options, though we still haven't seen all the structures. That being said, I suspect the Venetian will still fill their room over the weekends, and I think their reluctance to hold multi start day tourneys on the weekends might signify a decision to concentrate more on cash during those days.

I played this series the past two summers & demand last year was high (alternates for a few hours was actually a problem) as players realized about the great structure/lower rake.

This year they delay the schedule release & respond with the opportunity to take advantage of poor sentiment around Venetian by some players and... Crap.

Starts midway through summer and has mostly 100 person dailies? The summer scene keeps getting smaller and less important, it's sad to see.

will the tournament be run using automatic table shufflers or hand dealt?

Thanks

Most tournaments during the Summer Classic will be held in the Wynn Poker Room. On those days, we will use automatic shufflers. On the days we need to use Encore, we will shuffle by hand.

Structures for the Wynn Summer Classic available at: http://wynnpoker.com/wynn_classic14.cfm

Best daily structure by far and away.

That's wonderful, whenever I want to play a random daily in like December, I'll be sure to head right over.

I was sceptical that there would be much reason to play this over the Rio dailys, but the Wynn's tournaments deserve a good turnout. The Rio dailys are $190+45 while Wynn's are $262+38. The structure at the Wynn also has 50% more play than the Rio's, as the Rio skips every third level compared to the Wynn.

+10000 to great structure! Will be playing a few of these over the Rio for sure.

People don't typically play the Rio Deepstacks for the structure. They play them because they get massive fields, 3-4x or more times larger than anything any other casino will ever get in a daily. That being said, if someone is looking for better structure in a daily, or prefers to play against fewer opponents, these definitely seem like very good alternatives. It will be interesting to see how they stack up against the PH dailies in both structure and attendance.

Poor excuse for a "schedule".

I wonder how much money the folks at the WSOP pay chainsaw to find fault in the tournaments held at the Wynn, Venetian and Aria?

Nugget schedule is fine but huge rake.

Do I wish the schedule was a bit better, Yes. Does the Wynn have one of the best structures and venues, yes. I will go there.

Allen, why don't you open a poker room and show the world how to do it perfectly, as you think you can.

The rooms deal with their bosses and what the majority will show up for. If they thought more would show for other games, they would do it.

Allen, you stated you are TOTALLY booked at the WSOP. So, why mock the other venues when you will not even give them a chance. Go to the WSOP and be happy and leave us alone.

Wynn has great structures and staff, but the schedule is downright horrible. Just another series of all no limits. If they offered a real schedule I would commend them. producing a schedule that is all no limits a month late is inexcusable. They waited to see what Venetian did, and reacted by offering more of the same.

NL tournaments draw in the players. The other games don't draw them in as much. Considering they are trying to make money off of these things can't fault them for putting something out which will draw in players. You have to look at the structure and field size and determine what is important to you.

The Wynn will have the structure without question. The Rio will generate numbers. I think both have value. Really enjoy the Wynn tournaments. Great room and staff.

Alan T, you have it right. I love OFC, but not enough interest and too expensive to deal. That is my problem, not the casinos.

Can you post a payout structure?
Example tournament has $250K prize pool, what would payout look like?

I too would like to see more mixed games. But you will get my business for the simple fact that you offer good structures; but more important none of the multi-day "best stack forward" crap.

Thanks for posting in the forum.

The problem with chainsaw is two-fold...

1) He comes at all of his arguments from the perspective of a poker player, not a TD. This, in itself and in general, is obviously not a problem. However, when he is making arguments about the quality of tournament schedules, he almost always discounts a variety of factors which he, as a poker player is not concerned about, but which TDs have to be concerned about. So, until such time as he goes into the business of opening a casino and becoming a TD, a lot of what he has to say about the quality of schedules is flimsy. And this doesn't even get into the fact that most of the time he seems to have the most to say about tournaments he doesn't play and has no intention of playing.

2) Allen believes his opinions represent the majority of poker players. This could not be farther from the truth. The majority of poker players do not care about the availability of mixed games. The majority of poker players do not care about the excruciating minutia of the variety of "grey area" rules that Allen butters his bread with on a daily basis in these forums. And while he is certainly entitled to his opinions on whatever he wants to opine about, he is not entitled to believe that his opinions are or should be shared by the majority of poker players. Because, if that were true, then all of the things he whines about on a daily basis would be realities instead of things for him to try and change.

Most players dont care about high rake or bad structures either, I guess. Most of my posts are to benefit stepfords like you.

Btw wynn rake and structures are the best of the strip properties.