They have always 'had' them. See 2014's sheet https://www.wsop.com/2014/single%20t...014%20wsop.pdf

But they won't run them in favor of the winner take all that always run. I bet some floors don't even know that these exist.

The WTA are $13 rake at all levels besides the $65 one. And if we're going to be nitty about this, the WTAs are less rake at comparable prices at $175 and above, more at $125 vs $120.

Also, have never seen the $65 one run and I doubt they will run after the Colossus and maybe a few for the $565 PLO reentry. I think they ran one today the first day for the Colossus.

Played a $65 today, 800 starting stack. We went deep into level 6 (200/400), lol. We kept passing around the chiplead 3 handed.

Tidbits from the first day:
A guy that limps AQ will call a shove with Q9. And make a straight using only the 9.

If you played STT's last year you know what a pain it was to register. Long lines that moved slow. They will refund unused tickets so buy a bunch first time through. If you plan to grind a lot of them it's a good way to use the first lammers you win. Also, you can pre-reg online using the new credit card scheme. 3% extra juice but there might be a time that nearly instant reg will be handy, like when that Deepstack is about to kick off, and the line is 30 minutes long. Get set up now because it takes 3 days before you can use it, but once set up, it's nearly instant reg.

They're using Copags. For once CET didn't cheap out and try to get away with cheap-ass cards.

The Venetian satties are 2-winner. There's an interesting difference, you need to tweak your strategy. I kinda liked them, but don't like Venetian TD's so I wo't go back.

You probably have to buy a different ticket for 2-winner, so verify. You might have to do some cheerleading yourself because after someone has bought their ticket, they're not getting back in line to reg again. You can help your cause by printing up some small signs that say 2 winner so they can stick it in the table sign so that everyone can see it.

I asked one of the people running things about the 2-winner satties. She said she's never seen one run. Nash, you're definitely going to have to talk them into it.

Thanks for the info. I won't arrive in Lost Wages until June 13, then I'll do my part in trying to get ten players to agree to any two-winner satellite. Last time I played the WSOP Main Event, I remember playing in a bunch of two-winner satellites.

That's too bad as I love to play those elsewhere. Definitely changes the table dynamics: you go from rooting against someone building a big stack to rooting FOR that to happen.

If you ask for one, they will set up the sign. Maybe others will see it and want to play. She said earlier that someone did that and the guy there alone until he gave up.

Worse comes to worst, the guy can get a refund for his un-run ticket, correct?
It's good to have an idea of which winning pros have had recent cashes and I've had many pleasant transactions with them, and to avoid the losing or broke "pros" who may try to squeeze some money from you, such as Brad Booth, Mizrachi, & Kessler.






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Yes.

LOL, I don't have ready access to all the pro player phone numbers. They were people I ran into in the hall.

We get minimum wage plus tips just like cash dealers.

We also get $15 per sat to but that's for the 45-90 minutes we spend waiting for a spot, setting up the table, and waiting for 10 players to show up.

I assume they give refunds in lammers if you paid with them initially? Otherwise, it would be a great way to avoid having to sell lammers, as you could just reg a bunch of $525s and come back the last day to collect refunds in cash...

That's their normal SOP. Look at your ticket, it shows what you bought in with.

Finally got the chance to play three satellites on Monday and as far as last longers go (given the previous discussion), we had 10 players at $40 in the first $175, six players at $100 in the second $175 and eight players at $50 in a $125.

I held the money in two of them.

Wow, six at $100 is pretty big for the $175. I don't think I've seen a $100 LL any bigger than heads-up in the $175's. $20-$40 has been the norm for me. Hopefully you kept holding the money even at the end. I'm getting into town this afternoon and I'm excited to get grinding.

Has the Rio tried to run any two-winner satellites?
Last year, the dealer would safeguard the LL cash while one of the players (usually me) would write down the seat #s. Are the dealers prevented from holding this year?






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Unfortunately, no. Mixed results in those: in the second one I chopped the last longer heads up for $300 and then snagged one $500 lammer, but bombed out of the rest.

I did play a heads-up $40 LL with a guy in the third satellite who managed to get all-in on the first hand with Ac-5c vs. JJ and AA though.

As far as dealers holding the $ in the LL, I was told by a circuit dealer they should not even touch additional money for LL. Story from last year is a player went after the WSOP since the dealer "facilitated" the LL by passing his money to another player who eventually busted and took all the LL money with him.

Grab a clear cup holder and put all the money in there, maybe stick it near the 4/5 seat..makes everyone feel comfortable.

No. They will not run two winner satellites. Some of them don't even know they exist.

Dealer absolutely should not be touching the cash in the LL.

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Huh. I chopped a 6way $100LL in a $175STT on Monday. Wonder if we were playing the same one.

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Are you Asian? I was wearing a Bama cap.

Yea asian. I don't remember hats though. I play so many tournaments. People blur but I got 3rd and then the two made a deal. It was probably us!

Good to meet you last night dimeat.

I played a $175 last night in which we got seven players for a $100 last longer. I held the money again.

(And again, I did not win it.)

I must look honest!

One of the three guys who didn't participate asked incredulously, "You're doing a $100 last longer on a $175 satellite???"

I would refuse to hold the money from now on if I were you.

I will hold the money when I get there, then pig4bill & I will sell all our lammers at face value.

Saw a HORSE STT go off yesterday.