27 tables near Masquerade tower. Two sections , 15 and 12. Poker room has 9 tables in it and there are 7 additional tables set up outside the room. Don't know if these are tourney or cash game overflow tables.

Txs for the info guys & good luck!

Oy, that sounds crappy. You would like to have tournament bustouts get right into a cash game, but if they have to go to the poker room they will pass both bank of room elevators. Also, it would be nice to sign up for a STT and then play cash until one gets going.

What is the situation with event 1 and playing to the money. This is totally different than any other stop. Is this clearly stated in structure sheet?

This situation with Event 1 is totally unfair to anybody chasing points. You actually have the possibility of getting 75-80 points for 1 event. This does not exist at other 21 stops. They need to reevaluate!!

I ran the numbers in the chart below. Say your ROI online with 9% rake is 27.08%, then your roi with 17.5% rake (close to 300+65) would be 14.9%. (so if you charged someone 15% markup, the buyer would have a -0.1% expectation) The after tax roi is based on a 10k buyin type event with 6000+ players, so top spots are hit with 39.6% tax rate. The allin win % shows how good on average you have to get allin to have the corresponding ROI. For example, if you go allin with average equity of 54.27%, then your ROI would be 61.3% if you pay 10% rake on average. Since QQ vs AK is about 57%, you should welcome this "race" every time as you would be one of the best players in the world if you could average 57% allin equity.

I won't explain more and I know for a fact the math guys won't believe me, but you haven't played many of these 365s if you think this chart is correct. There is no way to make a online to live analogy along with many other things in your post.

The chart is very impressive and can def correlate to online rakes, just not live, circuit fields.

Yea, when WSOP allowed each stop to make their own schedule within certain guidelines I figured something like this would come up in the year.

I was upset when PH was paying 15% which allowed more people to gather points as well. Most stops have stayed in lines with their past schedules, but the Vegas stops are the ones making the most changing effecting points.

edit: Most don't believe people are getting awarded multiple points, just the points for their highest result.

This will be my first circuit event here in Las Vegas, heading to Rio this afternoon, curious to see if this last leg will have the most entries (700ish so far)

Anyone play in the first few from here?

273 in flight E so far.

Are they running cash games and satellites in the same area as the tournament tables?

Separate areas but the tournament may be overflowing into the cash/satellite area today due to the large turnout.

Flying out today for the HORSE, Monster Stack and Main Event. GL all who are playing!

217 not too far off! Bagged in the money with 24 left. Hoping for some rungood tomorrow!

GG! Good luck for tomorrow. I played until level 14 yesterday, and I think the structure is quite good for that buy-in.

Thanks! Yeah, a couple people were saying that it was getting fast and big jumps, but the jumps were as smooth as they really can be (for example, playing a 2500/5000 limit, not jumping from 2/4 to 3/6). The nature of limit tournaments is for them to end, it has to get to where each hand is significant to stacks. I wouldn't mind 40 minute levels on Day 2, but I agree with you that it is a very good structure for the buyin.

I played event 6 and event 8. I have a limited budget so I was really only intending the play event 6. I busted with about 160 left (out of 329) sometime in level 10. My first table was full or really weird players, lot's of bizarre plays such as calling a pre-flop 4bet with 2/3 and then hitting trip threes on the flop. (luckily his opponent that hand was not me).

I was not satisfied so I stayed at the rio that day, watched the rest of that event from the rail and then slept in my car in the parking garage (again limited budget) and sank $65 into the 9am mega satellite, which I was one of the 6 who won the $380 for the seat in event 8.


Event 8 was extremely enjoyable for me. My first table was great. Serious players, good play and even though there wasn't any talking there felt like a healthy respect was going around the table. For me, playing in only my 3rd live tournament ever, it was a real thrill to have Carlos Mortensen at that first table. Me and him got into a few pots. The highlight of my trip was probably 4 betting him, making him think on it for a while and eventually laying it down. I built my stack up to close to 30k and was building a good table image. But just before our table broke I gave Mortensen a double up (he had about 11K). I have K/J, the flop comes with a K and two unders. He bets and I call. The turn is a 10 and he moves all in. I think for bit and call and he turns over K/10 for a two pair made on the turn. So that hurt my stack and even though I gained a few back from a couple 3-bets before the table broke, my momentum was slightly shaken.

My new table I had no image and the players were far more aggressive, talkative and a seemingly mormon edge and prickly. I was able to fight my way though it and balance my pots won/lost enough to stay steady. But eventually I would stung in a few bigger pots and I would eventually bust out with around 120-100 left out of 379.

Great experience for me. Very fun. I liked watching the events and meeting some people (i got to know and meet like 10 people just in 2 days being there). I will try again when I have more money for buy-ins and such. (fresh out of college with an entry level internship does not give you much leeway financially).

Can someone please explain the ME rake to me?

I assume it is $1500 + $175?

Is there any other vig hidden in there?

http://www.wsop.com/2016/circuit/$1,675%20Main%20Event.pdf

Ended up 6th in the HORSE.

The "hi roller" should be 3 or 5k. Having it at 2k just a few hundred more than the main seems foolish.

Congrats. Good job.

Thanks. The website seemed to only link me to the high roller structure sheets.

Do you know if they will be playing the full 15 levels on day 1? Seems strange if they do for a 3pm start.

cards in the air for the main event

Yes. Dinner break was close to 10pm. We bagged at 3 am.