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05-03-2017 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by flydoc
I'm playing. 100 minute levels will make it a grind, but with a few thousand players, hopefully, it will be a nice payout.
There will not be a few thousand people. Lucky to get 1000 runners and will prolly be toughest NLH field in the series.
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05-03-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spoonieluv40
Who has played the 8am 1k satty on July 10th, the final buy-in day for the main? Anyone know how many runners and how many seats it paid out last year?

Also, if I play that and win a seat how do they pay it out? I'm already gonna be registered for the main so if I win a seat do they pay out in chips?
I could be wrong but I think you could withdraw from the main and get a refund then play the satellite. If you don't win a seat you could buy back in.
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05-03-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Questions of curiosity: What's the highest stakes single table satty you've seen run? Highest stakes non-NLHE? Interesting all satties give lammers except the $11k to the $100k seems to give you an entry, presumably must play. $2k stud SNG sounds...interesting.
The non-NLH single-tables are pretty infrequent. I've only seen them running the night before the $1500 bracelet event in the variant. I haven't even really see them go off in PLO much, which you would think would be the next-most requested variant after NLH. Saw a $285 8-game go off last year the night before the $1500 8-game. I've spent a fair amount of time in the SnG area (though not as much as some grinders on here) and I've never seen anything bigger than $300 go in a non-NLH variant. But they would certainly run a bigger one if you proactively sought out the players and had a game ready to go.

And in NLH, assuming we're talking about mid-Series, I would say the most common is $175, then $125s. Those two are going off constantly. I don't know if that will change this year since WSOP did away with nearly all the $1k tourneys (they used to have a $1k every Sunday). After those two, I would say $525s are the next most common, then $275s. I don't see a lot of $325s or $225s, but they run sometimes. On any given night there will be at least one $1k that goes, but usually you have to go get on a list. Right before the Main the $1ks go off much more regularly.
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05-03-2017 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by patstap2
I could be wrong but I think you could withdraw from the main and get a refund then play the satellite. If you don't win a seat you could buy back in.
This could be dangerous if he registered by wire. The refund would be in the form of a wire back to his bank, which could take a couple days to settle out.

Why would he register for the main now? It's not like he might get frozen out.
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05-03-2017 , 04:22 PM
Also would be a problem if the satellite ended after the Main started, b/c I think if you w/d after the event starts, you can't re-reg (to avoid people w/d and re-reg because of bad table draw).
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05-03-2017 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
This could be dangerous if he registered by wire. The refund would be in the form of a wire back to his bank, which could take a couple days to settle out.

Why would he register for the main now? It's not like he might get frozen out.
The refund is in cash; wsop received cash and they refund in kind. Been there and done it.
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05-03-2017 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Also would be a problem if the satellite ended after the Main started, b/c I think if you w/d after the event starts, you can't re-reg (to avoid people w/d and re-reg because of bad table draw).
So basically if you are already reg'd theres no point to playing the 8am satty?
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05-03-2017 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spoonieluv40
So basically if you are already reg'd theres no point to playing the 8am satty?


You would win 10k in lammers which you can sell.
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05-03-2017 , 11:43 PM
On the last day of registration. Good luck
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05-04-2017 , 09:52 AM
There will be lots of people regging the main that day up until the cutoff, I wouldn't be worried about it. Also there are still 3 flights of the Little One after that in case somehow it doesn't work (though obv selling $10k in lammers on a day of a $1k will take much longer than selling them the last day of the main).
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05-04-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
You would win 10k in lammers which you can sell.
If you are playing, just unregister and re-register. You'll get your original buy in refunded and then use the lammers to re-register. For 10k seems worth it.
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05-04-2017 , 10:30 AM
Like I posted above, I don't think you can do that if you unregister after the tournament starts. The satellite will run into the actual tournament. So then you go unregister. I don't think they will let you re-register for a tourney that you unregistered for after it starts. Otherwise you can go to your table, see a couple wizards, go unreg and snap re-reg to get a new seat.
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05-04-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Like I posted above, I don't think you can do that if you unregister after the tournament starts. The satellite will run into the actual tournament. So then you go unregister. I don't think they will let you re-register for a tourney that you unregistered for after it starts. Otherwise you can go to your table, see a couple wizards, go unreg and snap re-reg to get a new seat.
Then unreg before the ME starts....you'll have to re-reg of course but again for 10K seems better than trying to sell off lammers to me.
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05-04-2017 , 10:46 AM
Then why reg in the first place? The guy who asked the question said that when he played the satty he will already be registered for the main. Maybe he doesn't wanna have to wait in a long line on Day 1C to register in case he doesn't bink a seat?

I agree he can just play the satty, then reg the Main, using either his $$ or the lammers he just won, but that wasn't what he asked.
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05-04-2017 , 11:05 AM
I will take the over for a big bet on 1000 runners for the Marathon.
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05-05-2017 , 08:17 AM
0 chance Marathon is the toughest field, yes buyin size will deter some but fish love good structure and high number of chips
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05-05-2017 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rm81
0 chance Marathon is the toughest field, yes buyin size will deter some but fish love good structure and high number of chips
Buy-in size isn't the most important factor when it comes to field strength. Rec-friendliness is a much bigger factor. This tourney is long and being held mid-week. I imagine the rec to rounder ratio (RRR) for this tourney will be among the lowest of the WSOP... certainly among their "featured" events.

What will be interesting is to see what kind of an impact their decision to change their weekend schedules this year has on turnout. These changes are not friendly to rec players, particularly those that might be willing to come from relatively short distances away. Is it enough to overcome the historical popularity of the event and the draw of the bracelet? I don't know. And maybe the WSOP is counting on making the numbers up from people who are already in town for long stretches of time being able to buy in multiple times to many of these events. But this will still mean tougher fields than in years past.
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05-05-2017 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Noz22
I will take the over for a big bet on 1000 runners for the Marathon.
I'd be surprised if they got under 1000. But I would be equally surprised if they got over 2000.
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05-05-2017 , 02:33 PM
I want to make sure I'm not overlooking something in the Colossus.
It is not a "BSF" Best Stack Forward event, right?
If you bag up then you cannot play another Day 1? And they don't allow you to forfeit a stack?

Thanks
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05-05-2017 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I'd be surprised if they got under 1000. But I would be equally surprised if they got over 2000.
I would be equally surprised if the Marathon got less than 5 people or more than 5000 but I doubt this sheds light on anything. Still gonna play it.
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05-05-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tobikosan
I would be equally surprised if the Marathon got less than 5 people or more than 5000 but I doubt this sheds light on anything. Still gonna play it.
I call your bluff. You would not be equally surprised.
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05-05-2017 , 05:40 PM
There are plenty of people who are there for long periods of time for the WSOP who are losing players whether they luckboxed a tourney or are wealthy. Monster day 1 is the weekend but like 3000 make day 2 on a monday you have to play through the week to do deep in it. Also even if you are a cash pro it does not mean you are not a fish in mtts. Even some guys who have good mtt results may not adjust properly to being super deep in this tourney as well.
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05-06-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Then why reg in the first place? The guy who asked the question said that when he played the satty he will already be registered for the main. Maybe he doesn't wanna have to wait in a long line on Day 1C to register in case he doesn't bink a seat?

I agree he can just play the satty, then reg the Main, using either his $$ or the lammers he just won, but that wasn't what he asked.
You're exactly right.. I want to be registered so I don't have to wait on a long line if I don't bink the satty.. but selling these lammers sounds like it will be a pain in the ass
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05-06-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rm81
There are plenty of people who are there for long periods of time for the WSOP who are losing players whether they luckboxed a tourney or are wealthy. Monster day 1 is the weekend but like 3000 make day 2 on a monday you have to play through the week to do deep in it. Also even if you are a cash pro it does not mean you are not a fish in mtts. Even some guys who have good mtt results may not adjust properly to being super deep in this tourney as well.
I think you're making my point for me. Monster did not have day 2 on Monday in the past. It will this year. Since that event is one of the few freeze-outs (of the featured weekend events), it will be a good indicator too see if their scheduling change has the negative effect I predict. Players can only buy-in once and I feel they are limiting their player pool by making the schedule less rec-friendly.

As for the Marathon event, no one (to my knowledge) is saying that "pros", or non weekend warrior types are all good players. All I'm saying is the Marathon is not rec-friendly in either its scheduling or structure. So, naturally, there will be a higher concentration of better players in that tourney. If you disagree, I'm curious which other NLH tourney you think will have a stronger field?
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05-06-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I think you're making my point for me. Monster did not have day 2 on Monday in the past. It will this year. Since that event is one of the few freeze-outs (of the featured weekend events), it will be a good indicator too see if their scheduling change has the negative effect I predict. Players can only buy-in once and I feel they are limiting their player pool by making the schedule less rec-friendly.

As for the Marathon event, no one (to my knowledge) is saying that "pros", or non weekend warrior types are all good players. All I'm saying is the Marathon is not rec-friendly in either its scheduling or structure. So, naturally, there will be a higher concentration of better players in that tourney. If you disagree, I'm curious which other NLH tourney you think will have a stronger field?
5k 6max?? I do agree with your points about marathon not being rec friendly but I think(rather I hope) you are overestimating the timing and structure as a detterant for rec players(I probably fall into that category). I believe this tournament will be a good price point alternative to the main for players to come out and take a shot at. I think the same players who would consider a shot at a 1500 like the monster will consider this as an alternative to take a week off work for a wsop shot given the additional "value".

I would be ok with being convinced otherwise however,as prior to the schedule release summer solstice and 1500LHE were my most anticipated events. Being that they occur on the same day I'm 95% sure I will play marathon.
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