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04-09-2017 , 03:01 AM
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04-09-2017 , 07:28 AM
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BTW there's a story in the news that all foreign visitors, regardless of country of origin, may soon have to undergo increased scrutiny before being allowed to enter the U.S. Be sure to check with your consulate.
If you're a Canadian Nexus is your friend. Makes life much, much easier crossing the border.
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04-09-2017 , 05:34 PM
What's peoples predicitions on numbers/softness of the $2620 Marathon? Last years $2500 bracelet event got just over 1k runners. I'm assuming this one should get bigger given name "hype" and timing (starting Monday after Millionaire Maker weekend). Debating if I should add this to my schedule or not, given it will be the top of my buyin-range.
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04-09-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewfury
What's peoples predicitions on numbers/softness of the $2620 Marathon? Last years $2500 bracelet event got just over 1k runners. I'm assuming this one should get bigger given name "hype" and timing (starting Monday after Millionaire Maker weekend). Debating if I should add this to my schedule or not, given it will be the top of my buyin-range.
Its great that it has 100min levels buy 5 days is too much to commit to with all the tourny options to play. I guess you can just late reg on day 2 to cut down on the tourney time.
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04-09-2017 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewfury
What's peoples predicitions on numbers/softness of the $2620 Marathon? Last years $2500 bracelet event got just over 1k runners. I'm assuming this one should get bigger given name "hype" and timing (starting Monday after Millionaire Maker weekend). Debating if I should add this to my schedule or not, given it will be the top of my buyin-range.
This tourney is not at all rec-friendly so IMO it will have one of, if not the, toughest NLH fields in the WSOP schedule. It's hard to say how many entries it will get, but I would be pretty surprised if it got much more than 1k. 5 days is just an awfully long time to be playing such a grid it out structure, particularly since it will likely take at least 2 days just to make the money.
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04-11-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mayoroftittycity
Anybody play the $888 last year? It's at the top of my range in terms of buy-ins but I'm considering it. I'm guessing the structure won't be terribly great, though. Any other downfalls to this tourney? Also, typically I've seen sattys to $1k, $1.5k, and higher events. Anyone know if there will be sattys to this event?

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Originally Posted by Stew2
I'm kind of in the same boat as Mayor is in. I'm trying to decide between a trip around the Colossus or the 888. Does the change in starting stack on the 888 to 8K in chips make it that much better of an option? I'm purely an amateur rec noob, who has enough money to come to Vegas and play in a WSOP event.

An advantage for me for the Colossus is I'd definitey be able to fire two bullets. I probably could for the 888 but if I come for the 888, I'll probably play in the Golden Nugget 500K event on Friday (day 2 is sunday, so if I advanced I wouldn't fire two bullets at the 888, just one).

I'm planning on playing this event. I love the comfort of playing 8 handed as compared to the crowded 10 handed tables. Structure is kind of fast but a bit better than last year.

Last year this tournament had a factor of 50 "S-Points" compared to 59 this year. The higher the number the better the structure. Below is link to a great site to compare structures.

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/pokercalc/

Here is a sample of some other tournies from last year:

WSOP Main- Vig 6.0%, S-Points 339
WSOP $1500- Vig 10.0, S-Points 164
WSOP Lil Drop- Vig 9.0%, S-Points 126
WSOP Monster- Vig 10.0, S-Points 151
WSOP Milly- Vig 10.0, S-Points 109
WSOP $1000- Vig 10.0, S-Points 101
WSOP Seniors- Vig 10.0%, S-Points 101
WSOP Colossus- Vig 11.5%, S-Points 50
WSOP $365 Daily- Vig 17.8, S-Points 23
WSOP $235 Daily- Vig 19.1, S-Points 35
WSOP $185 Daily- Vig 21.6, S-Points 30
WSOP $135 Daily- Vig 25.9, S-Points 24

Nugget $500K- Vig 12.3%, S-Points 118
Nugget $150 Daily- Vig 24.7, S-Points 41
Nugget $1675- Vig 11.6%, S-Points 110
Nugget $250 Seniors & Super Seniors- Vig 20.0, S-Points 65

HPT Main Event- Vig 13.9%, S-Points 105
MSPT Main Event- Vig 9.1, S-Points 69
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04-11-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by patstap2
I'm planning on playing this event. I love the comfort of playing 8 handed as compared to the crowded 10 handed tables. Structure is kind of fast but a bit better than last year.

Last year this tournament had a factor of 50 "S-Points" compared to 59 this year. The higher the number the better the structure. Below is link to a great site to compare structures.

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/pokercalc/

Here is a sample of some other tournies from last year:

WSOP Main- Vig 6.0%, S-Points 339
WSOP $1500- Vig 10.0, S-Points 164
WSOP Lil Drop- Vig 9.0%, S-Points 126
WSOP Monster- Vig 10.0, S-Points 151
WSOP Milly- Vig 10.0, S-Points 109
WSOP $1000- Vig 10.0, S-Points 101
WSOP Seniors- Vig 10.0%, S-Points 101
WSOP Colossus- Vig 11.5%, S-Points 50
WSOP $365 Daily- Vig 17.8, S-Points 23
WSOP $235 Daily- Vig 19.1, S-Points 35
WSOP $185 Daily- Vig 21.6, S-Points 30
WSOP $135 Daily- Vig 25.9, S-Points 24

Nugget $500K- Vig 12.3%, S-Points 118
Nugget $150 Daily- Vig 24.7, S-Points 41
Nugget $1675- Vig 11.6%, S-Points 110
Nugget $250 Seniors & Super Seniors- Vig 20.0, S-Points 65

HPT Main Event- Vig 13.9%, S-Points 105
MSPT Main Event- Vig 9.1, S-Points 69
wsop $1500 and Milly should be rated the same.
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04-11-2017 , 04:42 PM
How does the monster stack have less s-points than regular $1500? (Same structure but double the starting stack)
Also, shouldn't WSOP 1500 and milly have identical s-points? (Same exact structure and starting stack)
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Originally Posted by patstap2
I'm planning on playing this event. I love the comfort of playing 8 handed as compared to the crowded 10 handed tables. Structure is kind of fast but a bit better than last year.

Last year this tournament had a factor of 50 "S-Points" compared to 59 this year. The higher the number the better the structure. Below is link to a great site to compare structures.

http://www.rainbowspuppiessunshine.com/pokercalc/

Here is a sample of some other tournies from last year:

WSOP Main- Vig 6.0%, S-Points 339
WSOP $1500- Vig 10.0, S-Points 164
WSOP Lil Drop- Vig 9.0%, S-Points 126
WSOP Monster- Vig 10.0, S-Points 151
WSOP Milly- Vig 10.0, S-Points 109
WSOP $1000- Vig 10.0, S-Points 101
WSOP Seniors- Vig 10.0%, S-Points 101
WSOP Colossus- Vig 11.5%, S-Points 50
WSOP $365 Daily- Vig 17.8, S-Points 23
WSOP $235 Daily- Vig 19.1, S-Points 35
WSOP $185 Daily- Vig 21.6, S-Points 30
WSOP $135 Daily- Vig 25.9, S-Points 24

Nugget $500K- Vig 12.3%, S-Points 118
Nugget $150 Daily- Vig 24.7, S-Points 41
Nugget $1675- Vig 11.6%, S-Points 110
Nugget $250 Seniors & Super Seniors- Vig 20.0, S-Points 65

HPT Main Event- Vig 13.9%, S-Points 105
MSPT Main Event- Vig 9.1, S-Points 69
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04-11-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Edawger1
How does the monster stack have less s-points than regular $1500? (Same structure but double the starting stack)
Also, shouldn't WSOP 1500 and milly have identical s-points? (Same exact structure and starting stack)
His 1500 S-point rating should be 109, not 164. And 59 for the 8-8-8 is still fairly awful, comparatively speaking.
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04-11-2017 , 07:11 PM
The 888 is definitely a much better structure than the 565 colossus.

- more chips. 8k vs 5k. It DOES make a big difference when after first break assuming you didn't win/lose any chips or say regged late at 50/150/300 you have 27 bigs versus 17 bigs; and assuming the average stack by that point is going to be close 12k given the bustouts (which is 40 bigs.)

- 8 handed versus 10 handed.

- higher chance to win a bracelet (on average 4 times less people in the 888 I'd say.)
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04-11-2017 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
His 1500 S-point rating should be 109, not 164.
Thanks for correction
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04-11-2017 , 11:56 PM
It appears I can register online now. I didn't go all the way through it so I can't say for sure, but all the clickable buttons appeared to be live.
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04-12-2017 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by patstap2
WSOP $1500- Vig 10.0, S-Points 164
Maybe this was the Summer Solstice
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04-12-2017 , 09:41 AM
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Maybe this was the Summer Solstice
You are correct. I saw the $1500 and mistook it for the generic $1500's.
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04-12-2017 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by busto23
The 888 is definitely a much better structure than the 565 colossus.

- more chips. 8k vs 5k. It DOES make a big difference when after first break assuming you didn't win/lose any chips or say regged late at 50/150/300 you have 27 bigs versus 17 bigs; and assuming the average stack by that point is going to be close 12k given the bustouts (which is 40 bigs.)

- 8 handed versus 10 handed.

- higher chance to win a bracelet (on average 4 times less people in the 888 I'd say.)
Yes, the 8-8-8 is definitely better structure than the Colossus. Though the prize pool for the colossus is much bigger.
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04-12-2017 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mayoroftittycity
Anybody play the $888 last year? It's at the top of my range in terms of buy-ins but I'm considering it. I'm guessing the structure won't be terribly great, though. Any other downfalls to this tourney? Also, typically I've seen sattys to $1k, $1.5k, and higher events. Anyone know if there will be sattys to this event?
I have played just a couple bracelet events so far, collosus, a$1k, monster stack...by far for me.. The monster is just so much better if you are looking to fire just 1 bullet... I would skip 888 and push the buy in up and play monster.. I think you'll find that if you play a reentry quick structure like 888 you'll generally be disappointed and at a bigger disadvantage w the players that can fire a few bullets while monster being a freeze out and over twice as much play just feels like such a better experience
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04-14-2017 , 12:47 AM
I saw that WSOP is going to allow credit cards to be used for tourney buy-ins at the casher windows. Does anyone know the what the fees will be and if it's same if you just register online through fast track on Bravo Poker Live? Thanks
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04-14-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy723
I saw that WSOP is going to allow credit cards to be used for tourney buy-ins at the casher windows. Does anyone know the what the fees will be and if it's same if you just register online through fast track on Bravo Poker Live? Thanks
Fees will be the same if it is like last year...expect 3% or so on top of the entry fee. Worth it to me not to wait in line...
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04-14-2017 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
Fees will be the same if it is like last year...expect 3% or so on top of the entry fee. Worth it to me not to wait in line...
the cashier is open 24/7, just go register late or early morning when there is no line.
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04-14-2017 , 05:05 PM
anyone have a guess for number of teams in the 10k tag team?
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04-14-2017 , 05:16 PM
If you have a specific list of events you want to play, I suggest cashier's check. I've done that the past few years, never had an issue. This reduces the amount of cash I need to carry or otherwise get to Vegas, cheaper than the 3% credit card fee. This year my bank didn't even charge me for the cashier's check.
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04-14-2017 , 06:38 PM
A lot of people seem pretty excited and hyped up for this year's WSOP.

Perhaps you'd be interested in this:

2+2 WSOP FANTASY LEAGUE

Summer long sweat for $20 plus you can even draft yourself!
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04-15-2017 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mayoroftittycity
Anybody play the $888 last year? It's at the top of my range in terms of buy-ins but I'm considering it. I'm guessing the structure won't be terribly great, though. Any other downfalls to this tourney? Also, typically I've seen sattys to $1k, $1.5k, and higher events. Anyone know if there will be sattys to this event?
I played the $888 last year - 1st ever WSOP event for me. I cashed but didn't make day 2. Last year was 5000 chips to start and definitely had a turbo feel to it. I was lucky to make some big hands early to build up my stack.

It'll be interesting to see if the increase to 8000 makes a significant difference. It's not the best structure with only 30-min levels but for my schedule of when I can be in Vegas, it's the only one that I can realistically play since the $50K is far beyond my bankroll and skill level.
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04-16-2017 , 03:34 PM
I'd like to play the $1k tag team June 5, but none of my friends can afford it.

I'm up for 1, 2 or 3 others to join a team with. Last live event I played was Tunica and finished 40th, ITM. I'm not a superstar but have a few live cashes.

Looking for people who can play but also want to have fun. PM me if interested.
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04-17-2017 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
Yes, the 8-8-8 is definitely better structure than the Colossus. Though the prize pool for the colossus is much bigger.
You can't look at it in terms of prize pool I think. Second place in colossus is much less than first place in 888. And so on. Chances of min cashing in 888 are the same (or arguably higher for the more skilled player) as in the colossus, and chances of final tabling either are much higher in the 888 since they have significantly less players.
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