The Senoir Poker Tour just anounced there National Championship Tounament at the Golden Nugget Vegas in June , I am interested in any thoughts on the structure of this tourney from the MTT Community.

I go down every year for 11 days and play 1 wsop event and rest the time playing the smaller events at the Rio and other casinos around town. This tournament looks interesting, its being billed as a Sole Survivor Tournament.

Do you think this type of tournament is better for the Pros or the Amateurs.

Thanks

Link to structure?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict he has some problem with it, and in further breaking news he concocts a way to blame it on Matt Savage

http://seniorpokertour.com/sptnc/ Interesting format looks like it would be fun to play, skips a few levels but again a different format. Just wish it wasn't a reentry casinos are getting greedy offering these instead of rebuys.

Not chainsaw approved. Hate dealer add-ons just charge what u want up front. Silly to even out stacks on day two.also skips two most important levels 250-500 and 2500-5000; and I assume 25000-50000.. whole idea wont work. It will never go to one winner. It will surely be chopped.

Wow rake 582+88. The resetting of stacks will make it incredibly nitty as there is little advantage to be gained from making high variance plays. It is essentially a satellite.

lol I like the way u say it.

I really think all TD's should come to you and try to get their Tours officially "Chainsaw certified". With this stamp of approval players will know that they are getting great value and a free dinner to boot.

The SPT website announced a $600 SPT Seniors tournament for June 8th at the Golden Nugget, however, the GN schedule does not include this tournament. Does anyone have any information?

http://seniorpokertour.com/sptnc/ - KM

Allen, I also hate the dealer add-on, however, it is only really bad for those uninformed. I always calculate the total house take as you do.

I also hate not having the 250-500, 2500-5000, etc.. , however, this is a bit different since this is a two stage tournament. The first stage is a survivor tournament and the winners of the survivor tournament start a new tournament. Average BB is 83.33 at the start of stage two.

Its actually a mega satellite to get into a survivor tournament that will be chopped 4-5 handed.

Plenty of players (myself included) wouldn't like chainsaw approved tournaments to become to prominent a part of live mtts. Sure, having an occasional great structure for some main events is fine. But prelims are better when they move fairly quickly. The worst is coming back to a day 2 of a $365 and not being itm. Most tournaments should get thru 90/95% of the field (or make it the final table) on day 1.

The worst tournament I've played in recent time was a $1600 in bethlehem sands where 47 people made day 3 while only 27 cashed!! I consider a structure like that to be way worse than a hyper turbo that skips tons of levels.

I know what you are saying but I disagree. Having a Chainsaw Approved Structure on a nice guaranteed tournament is POKER HEAVEN for the regular tournament player. I mean, who wants to play for let's say 60k 1st place and then watch the levels skip and turn the tournament into a card catching shovefest???

Best thing is a structure that starts fast and then slows down late, but the problem is that doesn't appeal to all the rubes that think OMG HOW MANY CHIPS DO I START WITH? HOW MANY HOURS DO I GET TO PLAY 25/50 WITH 50K CHIPS DO I GET? are the important questions on if a structure is good or not.

This. Totally. Especially when on the road with limited time.

It's strange that the SPT doesn't disclose the exact eligibility requirement of playing on the tournament date so I had to email them. I want to play this and any other "Seniors" tournaments that I'm eligible for. Is there any thread or website that lists all the Seniors tournaments, or will I have to create a thread for us "nitty old folks who never play online and only 3-bets with AA"?

This isn't even a tournament. It's a glorified megasatty. It will never get to one winner without a chop.

since the restart provides over 50 BBs, I think it will be a good structure. I understand the phase one survivor format is different, it is at least a good structure. Phase one is relatively fast, but then slows down when 10% are left.

I think it is okay for casinos to try new formats. If you want to see an abortion, look at the Chicago CPC. They managed to ruin one of the best tournaments going in a single stroke of stupidity.

As others have mentioned, strange choices by SPT. The rake of this $670 "Mega Satellite" is 13.1%. 3% of the prize pool or $18/entry is already being withheld for tournament staff gratuity, but then another $10 is charged for the dealers. To compare, the true Mega Satellites at the WSOP has a rake of only 11.8% despite the lower buy-ins of $330 and $550.

SPT uses the terrible unlimited re-entry format, where eliminated seniors can keep re-entering as often as they want as long as they are senile enough to repay the full 13.1% rake every time.

I think it's a bad idea to mention that the min-cash is only $1,000 as those eliminated on Day 1A are less likely to re-enter on Day 1B once it becomes obvious how bad the re-entry format is. "Why the f*** did I re-enter another $670 yesterday, and WTF should I spend a total of over $2K to possibly cash only $1K??"

While the average stack at the end of each Day 1 will be around 250,000, you will be shortchanged to only 50,000 chips on Day 2. Everybody's "M" will only be 37 at the start of Day 2, no matter how great you played on Day 1. Forty minutes later, that M drops to only ~22 for almost everybody.

Unfortunately for me, I am not yet eligible to play in the WSOP $1,000 Seniors Event and I probably won't be in Las Vegas during the three Survivor tournaments of the Venetian DSE III, so I may play this Survivor tournament instead.

The SPT website says: "Must be 50 years of age or older in the calendar year to participate." Did they say this meant you could play the June Championship even if you don't turn 50 until December?

The WSOP Senior's event is Fri, Sat, & Sun, June 6th thru 8th.

The SPT's Day 1A is the 8th and Day 1B on the 9th.

The Legends Classic Series is June 7th thru 9th at Binion's for players 45 years old & older. http://legendsclassicseries.com/

I'll be arriving on the 5th for 8 days and looking forward to it.

I don't look at it that way. Each entry stands alone.

If you bust day 1A, you simply paid $670 and did not cash. You may then play a completely unrelated tournament on Day 1B for $670 with a chance to min-cash $1000.

Using your viewpoint is like saying "why spend $4000 entering four WSOP $1000 events when the min-cash in the 4th one is 'only' $1500".

I recently played in the multi opening day1 WSOP-C event #2 in St. Louis. We bagged and tagged at the end of Day1 with an average stack of about 78,000. Blinds were 2400-1200-400 for an average of about 11 M's at the start of Day 2 and we weren't even in the money yet.



I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't see the SPT Championship scheduled anymore at http://seniorpokertour.com/upcomingschedule or Golden Nugget website. Has this June 8-11 event been cancelled?

As a Senior poker player I am looking for value for my dollar, also as a Wa. State poker player its difficult to find tournaments with a good sructure. So I look forward every year for my annual trip to Las Vegas for the WSOP and the other tourneys.

This year the wsop changed there dates for the Senoir Event and I had already made my arrangements. So I was excited to here about the SPT main event , unfortunately this does not look like a good value for me, and equally disapointing is the Golden Nugget changing there structures to 30Min blinds.

The good news is Ill leave 4 days early play in the Senoirs WSOP , Binions and any other 40mn structures I can find, this time of year there is something for everyone

Senior Poker Tour National Championship Tournament canceled. There looking for a new location , hope they find a new structure as well.

There looking for a new location, and hope to anounce something Fri. May, 9th

The whole concept had issues. Id be glad to help them design something better.