Perhaps I'm misreading the schedule, but I believe there is a brand new 600 NLH scheduled for that Sunday at noon. Each day has a new featured noon event and a restart of the previous days' featured event, unless the featured event has multiple start days (then there's no restart, obviously)

By the way.. the commercials for that device in your avatar are perhaps the greatest source of unintentional comedy in the last decade.

Kinda embarrassing if you ask me, your Hendon Mob only lists one career cash at Venetian. Maybe its a good thing they keep the mixed schedule bare.

While we await the TD's return, here is an intentional one: (NSFW)

Now, now. I'm the last person who's going to defend doublejoker, but I don't think he's ever claimed to be a good poker player. He just claims to be someone who knows exactly how every tournament should be scheduled, structured, advertised and run. With that level of knowledge, we can't expect him to be an expert in other areas as well.

Lol

+1. I was looking forward to playing a couple of Survivor tournaments when I go to Las Vegas this summer. I'll have to wait for the Wynn, Caesars and other series to decide when and where to go instead of the Venetian.

You're missing the point a little. When I say "I" just swap it with "one". I'm suggesting that very few people want to play the Day 1A if they're stuck with a day in the middle. Case in point was the one I played last year. Day 1A was a Sat - they had approx 100 entrants. Day 1B was Sunday (where I played) - there were something like 600 entrants that day. I can't see how this would be overly different if the 2 starting days were separate.

Allowing Day 1B reentry after busting Day 1A might alleviate this issue a little, but how many people want to take multiple swings at a $400 or $600 event?

I'll miss the mixed game tourneys but they took too much time to feasibly play mostly. Played a 500 horse and halfway into day 2 not ITM.

Liking you added some guarantees. Think this will do great.

Would have been cool if you managed to make a plo8 with a guarantee and see how it worked out.

He's an EXCEPTIONAL mixed games player and imo an above avg NLH tournament player who has come a long way from his old tight image. I know you might think Allen is an easy target but he is a very important voice for the poker community to help with the "schedules, structures, etc". I don't understand you bashing him in the thread to be quite honest and I think it is really inappropriate.

Two different business models:

They are a TOURNAMENT SERIES that just so happens to have some cash games.

We are a CASH game room that just so happens to run some tournaments.

They have space for hundreds of tables and can offer a variety of events

I have 59 tables with which to work for our business model.

Tommy

It is almost like everyone in this thread wants me to pick up the WSOP schedule, move the days by two, and slap the Venetian DSE name on top.

I am not the WSOP unfortunately and only have access to 59 tables. There are so many variables to consider, like:

Cash Game tables
Restart Tables
12pm events
Evening events
Sit and Go's
Table breakdown
Cash Game buildup

It is very easy to sit back and say, how easy would it be to put a mixed game event here, two days before the WSOP. Now, trying adding all the variables I just talked about above into the equation.

Tommy

Carlo,

Apology accepted.

Discussion is good, believe me. As long as people keep it respectful, I have no problem hearing what people have to say.

There are so many factors when making a schedule. I do not use Hopes and Wants and Dreams, I use actual data to compile the best schedule I can for our players and the Venetian.

Tommy

I have said from the very beginning of this thread that space would be a challenge this year. I feel that I have created a schedule to maximize every table this year.

Will there be some mistakes? I am positive there will be. But once again, I will learn from those mistakes to try to produce a better schedule next time.

Tommy

i like the events, as a rec player like buy in ranges you have vs wsop, looking forward to play dse iii events

The schedule looks good, the 5k with the guarantee it has will draw more players than it has in the past. The 1k main is a very good addition, hopefully the rake isn't too extreme and makes for a good value tournament.

Actually, not too far off. Just none since 2012, but I welcome Allen back whenever he is ready.

Tommy

I do apologize and wish I could have offered more events that you were looking for. Hopefully players show up in groves for the 6 non NL events that I have scheduled this summer which will force my hand to schedule more next time.

Tommy

1. Survivors are not that bad. But when faced with a choice between a bounty tournament and a Survivor, the bounty #'s far out weigh the survivors. If I could have added more evening tournaments, you would have seen a lot more survivors

2. 59 tables available inside the Sands Poker Room at The Venetian. Unfortunately, poker does not do well enough to justify taking up additional space inside the casino.

Tommy

Schedule is final. I would do more damage now by changing the schedule as some players have made arrangements based on what we put out. Honestly, I look at all dates and try to match up with the WSOP on certain events that I think will help my attendance as well.

Tommy

On that same sunday last summer, we hit 44 cash game tables by 7pm. That leaves me 15 tables to run a $600 12pm event which should have 200-400 players, 1-2 tables for the Ladies restart form the day before, and a Heads Up event that night at 5pm.

I am curious on where I could put another event, as I would love nothing more than to offer additional tournaments.

Tommy

I was so close to adding a few Guarantees to some PLO events. I really wish I would have and will try next time. Some other factors weighed out over those, but that was something I really wanted to do.

Tommy

The rakes will be the same for all events as they have been for several years. I made no changes to that

Tommy

Why are you trying to bully people out of expressing their opinions on the schedule? And why does it matter whether Allen has played the DSE? He's probably one of five people in the discussion for most live tournaments played in the last 10 years. He's more than earned the right to voice his opinion on this stuff. Sure he complains a lot, but that complaining sometimes ends up with better deals for the players, meanwhile you appear to be an unpaid shameless company stooge.

Speaking of which... who are you anyway? Why are you trying to dominate this thread, just because you started it? Like that gives you special rights? The thread would have been started with or without you. Citing that as the reason you can act like an overbearing jerk is much more "pathetic" than anything Allen has said.

Thank you for the kind words.

Tommy

Our $1100 events will finish on Day 2 this year. One major feedback I received that the $1100's took 3 days to finish and during the WSOP, that is just too long for that buy in. Anything $1600 and above will still finish on Day 3, which most likely will have only the final table left at that point.

I am working on all structure sheets, but with DSE II starting Thursday, I do anot anticipate having them released until 1-2 weeks.

Tommy