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07-17-2014 , 10:22 PM
http://www.turningstone.com/userfile..._schedule2.pdf

pretty withered schedule but a televised main. Seems like a good time to be nostalgic and go up and screw around with the ol' crew
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07-18-2014 , 12:02 PM
Part of me really wants to go but looks pretty bad. I miss the days of the 560 6 max, 1500's, etc
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07-18-2014 , 07:35 PM
Probably playing event #1 and 7. I guess its cool the main has a televised final table and solid guarantee. Other than that, this schedule looks crappy compared to the top northeast casinos (but I know this is expected). I would like to see a $200-300 mtt with a 50-100k gtn.
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07-18-2014 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
I would like to see a $200-300 mtt with a 50-100k gtn.
Event 10 is a 300 MTT with a 50k guarantee.

TS rake remains some of the highest anywhere-event 10 is a 285+67, event 12 is a 475+87, and that doesn't even cover that $50 50k guaranteed tournament with the static payouts that will probably end up being something like 23+29. I used to take a couple of vacation days for this tournament series, now I'm not even going to take off the 15th for 1A of the main. I remain hopeful that at some point the turnouts TS gets moves over to Seneca-their series has much better rake structures (their 300 is 252+48 and their 600 is 531+69).
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07-18-2014 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle
Event 10 is a 300 MTT with a 50k guarantee.

TS rake remains some of the highest anywhere-event 10 is a 285+67, event 12 is a 475+87, and that doesn't even cover that $50 50k guaranteed tournament with the static payouts that will probably end up being something like 23+29. I used to take a couple of vacation days for this tournament series, now I'm not even going to take off the 15th for 1A of the main. I remain hopeful that at some point the turnouts TS gets moves over to Seneca-their series has much better rake structures (their 300 is 252+48 and their 600 is 531+69).
meh i meant on the weekend also. How is Seneca compared to TS btw? Never have played there but I imagine its comparable.

I like when TS ran the $300+50 (wanna say 75-100k) deep stack turbo a few years back on a friday. I find it pointless to take 2 days off during the week for an mtt you don't know if you will make day 2 of.
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07-18-2014 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
How is Seneca compared to TS btw? Never have played there but I imagine its comparable.
This is all imho and probably colored by a few experiences I've had at both places, someone like Mascot could probably give a more comprehensive view of the two places. In general, the floors at Seneca are nicer but probably a bit less competent, their tournaments definitely have a few oddities when they're ran. The dealer quality is very similar amongst the two places, as is the quality of the room, drink servers, etc. Fields at Seneca are usually a bit smaller than a comparable tournament at Turning Stone, although I've never been 100% sure why.
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07-21-2014 , 10:51 AM
TS>Seneca. American side of the falls is such crap. Turningstone got hit the biggest by Black Friday as a lot of their tournaments were being filled with 18-20 year olds who couldnt play many places.

The tournaments are run great(hopefully by Mike still), the dealers are awesome, and the staff is awesome, not to mention the resort itself is amazing.
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07-21-2014 , 10:57 AM
Lol at tournaments being run great at turningstone. I've played live tournaments everywhere and turningstone def makes the list of top 20 places that are least well run from my experiences (especially when they have so much experience running 'semi-major' tournaments.) Having said that... decent chance I'll be back.

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07-21-2014 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bodogari2ndaccount
Lol at tournaments being run great at turningstone. I've played live tournaments everywhere and turningstone def makes the list of top 20 places that are least well run from my experiences (especially when they have so much experience running 'semi-major' tournaments. Having said that... decent chance I'll be back.
Meh, I havent been there in probably 3 years or so. The only complaint I would have is the late night poker room manager. Forgot his name but he was rather heavy set and clearly just didnt give a ****. But the dealers are pretty good and Mike does a great job when he is running the show.
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07-21-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jonrubs
Meh, I havent been there in probably 3 years or so. The only complaint I would have is the late night poker room manager. Forgot his name but he was rather heavy set and clearly just didnt give a ****. But the dealers are pretty good and Mike does a great job when he is running the show.

Mike has not run tournaments in 2 years. He was promoted to Night time Shift Manager. One thing about Mike is he cares. Obviously, I am a local and know this was definately a positive live games are so much better.
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07-21-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Mike has not run tournaments in 2 years. He was promoted to Night time Shift Manager. One thing about Mike is he cares. Obviously, I am a local and know this was definately a positive live games are so much better.

I hope the fat guy who doesnt care is not running the tournaments.
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07-21-2014 , 12:27 PM
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I hope the fat guy who doesnt care is not running the tournaments.
Mike replaced that guy. Pete runs tournaments.
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07-21-2014 , 03:20 PM
It's been pretty bad recently. Haven't been able to get things like balancing tables done correctly. Re-entry policies are really weird. For this tournament series ($300/$500 gtd events) you can rebuy levels 1-10, reg closed 11-14, then can buy into day two level 15 with 5-10bb? What sense does that actually make?

Payout structures are horrendous and they have never made an effort to change anything. I'll probably make it up for the 300/500 just because I live so close but playing parx main over this
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07-21-2014 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bodogari2ndaccount
Lol at tournaments being run great at turningstone. I've played live tournaments everywhere and turningstone def makes the list of top 20 places that are least well run from my experiences (especially when they have so much experience running 'semi-major' tournaments.) Having said that... decent chance I'll be back.
**** off ari. go away, this is my tourney.

or lets swap 25%. either way
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07-24-2014 , 11:56 AM
Are they doing a 25/50nl televised cash game again this year? Anyone know who to talk to about playing in that?
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07-24-2014 , 09:00 PM
JonRubs you know you can get a hold of me on Face Book anytime.. or Twitter @NoGmicks..
See you guy's soon well atleast the ones who semi like me...
Me
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07-24-2014 , 10:15 PM
I will be up to TS sometime in the near future, probably not this series as I start my new job the 12th
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07-24-2014 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyBizzle
This is all imho and probably colored by a few experiences I've had at both places, someone like Mascot could probably give a more comprehensive view of the two places. In general, the floors at Seneca are nicer but probably a bit less competent, their tournaments definitely have a few oddities when they're ran. The dealer quality is very similar amongst the two places, as is the quality of the room, drink servers, etc. Fields at Seneca are usually a bit smaller than a comparable tournament at Turning Stone, although I've never been 100% sure why.
I agree with this for the most part.

Lately, I've noticed that the floor staff at turning stone has gone down hill and they're starting to get worse and worse each series.

As said, dealers are all about the same. I think Seneca has more out going dealers though.

Tournament wise, this schedule is withered. Seneca I believe is on the up and up with their room. I think 90% of the problem for the low turn outs at Seneca are due to the 30% tax withholding to Canadians. Once they get rid of this (and they're apparently working on it), I wouldn't be surprised to see their main events get 300+ people.

The thing about Seneca that I like so much is that Amanda and jay are both very open to changing to what the players want. (Look at the starting flights and guarantees). The structures are about the same- both skip levels but are not bad at all.
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07-25-2014 , 10:14 PM
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I agree with this for the most part.

Lately, I've noticed that the floor staff at turning stone has gone down hill and they're starting to get worse and worse each series.

As said, dealers are all about the same. I think Seneca has more out going dealers though.

Tournament wise, this schedule is withered. Seneca I believe is on the up and up with their room. I think 90% of the problem for the low turn outs at Seneca are due to the 30% tax withholding to Canadians. Once they get rid of this (and they're apparently working on it), I wouldn't be surprised to see their main events get 300+ people.

The thing about Seneca that I like so much is that Amanda and jay are both very open to changing to what the players want. (Look at the starting flights and guarantees). The structures are about the same- both skip levels but are not bad at all.
The night time floor staff at TS has improved 100%. But then again I am a local here 5/6 times a week. You are a local from Seneca. The floor staff is the same at TS. You should talk to a shift manager or Jason about your issue with the floor staff. Im guess tournament staff is the issue?
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07-26-2014 , 12:21 AM
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The night time floor staff at TS has improved 100%. But then again I am a local here 5/6 times a week. You are a local from Seneca. The floor staff is the same at TS. You should talk to a shift manager or Jason about your issue with the floor staff. Im guess tournament staff is the issue?
Yes, I should have specified tournament staff. I never have a problem with regular floor staff.

Granted, my reviews are probably biased a little bit due to me being a local for Seneca. (But I honestly do love coming out to turning stone). I just don't agree with some things the tournament staff does.

When I do play cash I'm usually there playing cash at night (til 2-3am).
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07-31-2014 , 02:47 PM
Why are the tournament payouts bad? and how is the play at TS relative to other places like vegas or AC or foxwoods
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08-01-2014 , 08:08 PM
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JonRubs you know you can get a hold of me on Face Book anytime.. or Twitter @NoGmicks..
See you guy's soon well atleast the ones who semi like me...
Me
Still #1 in our s
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08-06-2014 , 08:00 AM
32 joggers for the $230 bounty event yesterday if anyone is curious. hope next week picks up considerably.
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08-10-2014 , 03:00 AM
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Still #1 in our s
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08-13-2014 , 01:38 AM
Is it true turning stone was way short of the 50k gtn on the $50 mtt? Kinda wish I went and played it now.
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