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Old 05-17-2013, 01:07 PM   #151
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

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Shorter levels hurt anyone who is good at poker.
These early levels being 40 mins vs 60 mins (with 90 mins when real equity is on the line) may change your long term ROI by 1-2%

The other aspects (money reached littler earlier, more rebuys, more recreational players) more than offset that 1-2%
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:45 PM   #152
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Shorter levels hurt anyone who is good at poker.
Somewhat disagree, but therefore it helps anyone who is bad at poker... Which I'm ok with as well. If me or my close friends don't go deep in this, you'd better believe I'm rooting for 10 players that qualify between "northern European idiot" and "unable to spell poker".
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:41 PM   #153
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Somewhat disagree, but therefore it helps anyone who is bad at poker... Which I'm ok with as well. If me or my close friends don't go deep in this, you'd better believe I'm rooting for 10 players that qualify between "northern European gentlemen" and "new to the game of poker".
+1 with a couple PC edits

We really want to have this tournament appeal to all players which includes new, recreational, satellite players, locals, and pros.

I have had 50 people tell me they are playing that would not even consider playing a regular 5K and I will bet many of them don't even look at a structure sheet. Their questions will include "how many chips do we start with," "how much is 1st place," "when is the dinner break," and "how long is the tournament?"

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Old 05-17-2013, 03:33 PM   #154
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Just so everyone understands, my critiques and alternate proposals for this event are in no way an attempt to undermine it or make it less of a success. I applaud Larry, Matt and the entire staff at shr for offering such a bold guarantee especially following the money drain of an entire wsop. The success of this event is critical to the future of tournament poker and I will support it even if I disagree with some minor aspects that I've discussed.
Post more like this and people will give you more respect as opposed to the other posts you have made in this thread.

Longer levels obviously are better but I'm not going to nitpick when they make a guarantee like this
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:43 PM   #155
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Excited to come down, don't really care what the structure is, just dont want to be playing 14 hour days. Going to be a fun one.
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

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+1 with a couple PC edits

We really want to have this tournament appeal to all players which includes new, recreational, satellite players, locals, and pros.

I have had 50 people tell me they are playing that would not even consider playing a regular 5K and I will bet many of them don't even look at a structure sheet. Their questions will include "how many chips do we start with," "how much is 1st place," "when is the dinner break," and "how long is the tournament?"
I would say the tournament has real appeal, several people I play with regularly are really looking forward to this. Many I have talked to say they cant wait to win 10 Million$ (many amateurs believe that the guarantee refers to first place). These are the same people that Matt says aren't looking at the structure.

The Hard Rock is also handing out handfuls of free tickets, to any random people lucky enough to win a drawing (or any other promo they run)

With this soft of a field, I can't imagine not hitting guarantee. Have any big names confirmed that they will be playing?
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:05 PM   #157
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Somewhat disagree, but therefore it helps anyone who is bad at poker... Which I'm ok with as well. If me or my close friends don't go deep in this, you'd better believe I'm rooting for 10 players that qualify between "northern European idiot" and "unable to spell poker".
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The Hard Rock is also handing out handfuls of free tickets, to any random people lucky enough to win a drawing (or any other promo they run)

With this soft of a field, I can't imagine not hitting guarantee. Have any big names confirmed that they will be playing?
See above ^^^^^^^^^^^

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Old 05-17-2013, 04:05 PM   #158
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I would say the tournament has real appeal, several people I play with regularly are really looking forward to this. Many I have talked to say they cant wait to win 10 Million$ (many amateurs believe that the guarantee refers to first place). These are the same people that Matt says aren't looking at the structure.

The Hard Rock is also handing out handfuls of free tickets, to any random people lucky enough to win a drawing (or any other promo they run)

With this soft of a field, I can't imagine not hitting guarantee. Have any big names confirmed that they will be playing?
Take a look at post 155.....that's all you need to know!
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The fact that the guarantee will cause people to play regardless of the structure doesn't justify having the structure as it is.
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Mods I fess up. I've had three accounts for awhile now. Please merge doublejoker Todd Terry and Steve brecher accounts. I promise to abide by the rules in the future.
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Mods I fess up. I've had three accounts for awhile now. Please merge doublejoker Todd Terry and Steve brecher accounts. I promise to abide by the rules in the future.
Good Job Saw! This is not only funny but true, I just told you this yesterday.
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The fact that the guarantee will cause people to play regardless of the structure doesn't justify having the structure as it is.
This structure is GREAT as it IS!

30,000 in chips with 40, 60, and 90 minute levels is PLENTY of play.

7 days is LONG enough for ANY tournament and as the leader of the "WE NEED MORE CHIPS" movement you should be able to see that.

Great sponsored players like you will learn how to adjust, if you don't you can just reenter.
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Anyone can learn to adjust to any structure but that doesn't mean that your edge isn't reduced by shorter levels.
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

What will 1st Place pay?
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What will 1st Place pay?
Approximately 1.7M unless the guarantee is greatly surpassed then maybe more
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:42 PM   #166
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Trying to get them to pay more spots (300) and $1,500,000 for 1st and $1,000,000 for 2nd based on exactly $10,000,000 (2,000 players or less). Their standard pay for 1st would pay about $1.7M for 1st and about 200 would be ITM. My goal is to pay the final 100 players to get a good payday in a massive field.
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Trying to get them to pay more spots (300) and $1,500,000 for 1st and $1,000,000 for 2nd based on exactly $10,000,000 (2,000 players or less). Their standard pay for 1st would pay about $1.7M for 1st and about 200 would be ITM. My goal is to pay the final 100 players to get a good payday in a massive field.
Good for the poker community, I like it. Unique circumstances for a unique event.
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So you want to pay 300 or 100 spots.
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

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Trying to get them to pay more spots (300) and $1,500,000 for 1st and $1,000,000 for 2nd based on exactly $10,000,000 (2,000 players or less). Their standard pay for 1st would pay about $1.7M for 1st and about 200 would be ITM. My goal is to pay the final 100 players to get a good payday in a massive field.
I support this. It'll actually encourage more amateurs to play as they like wider/flatter pay-out structures
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:48 PM   #170
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It's a one of a kind Tournament to date. A ground breaker. Surely a Casino wants the money spread more widely and therefore more likely into the hands of returning locals. Spread the wealth.
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So you want to pay 300 or 100 spots.
300 spots with 2,000 or less players
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

I like Matt's payout idea. It's good for most of us pros to reduce variance and def good for the host casino with more money staying with their players. 1.5m first place sounds really nice advertising wise as well.
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300 spots with 2,000 or less players
What was the comment about the top 100 referring to?
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What was the comment about the top 100 referring to?
He's saying he wants to pay an extra 100 people (300 instead of 200).
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What was the comment about the top 100 referring to?
At first, I read it as Matt wants the top 100 players to get decent payouts as oppose to how top heavy most tournaments are. But not sure now. That would be nice.
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

[QUOTE=Matt Savage;38535823]First off let me start by saying I applaud the effort of the new COO of the Seminole Gaming Mr. Larry Mullen for being such a huge supporter of the game of poker. Putting up a $10,000,000 guarantee in this economy directly following the WSOP takes a LOT of guts!

William Mason and his team have been mandated to "make it work" by running over one hundred satellites and megas most with multiple seat guarantees at most Seminole Hard Rock properties. Look for the satellite schedule to come out very soon and trust me there will be overlays.

Matt,
Will you please provide the complete list of all satty , Mega and seat gurentee tourney for this? As like me many non pro players goes to Florida during the month of June, July and August. So we can take shot at one this tourney .
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First off let me start by saying I applaud the effort of the new COO of the Seminole Gaming Mr. Larry Mullen for being such a huge supporter of the game of poker. Putting up a $10,000,000 guarantee in this economy directly following the WSOP takes a LOT of guts!

William Mason and his team have been mandated to "make it work" by running over one hundred satellites and megas most with multiple seat guarantees at most Seminole Hard Rock properties. Look for the satellite schedule to come out very soon and trust me there will be overlays.

Matt,
Will you please provide the complete list of all satty , Mega and seat gurentee tourney for this? As like me many non pro players goes to Florida during the month of June, July and August. So we can take shot at one this tourney .
Thz
William Mason will be coming along soon with the satty schedule for ALL Hard Rock property satellites for the $10,000,000.
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:45 PM   #178
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Def run some satties at the WPT Tampa regional series in a few weeks.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #179
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Def run some satties at the WPT Tampa regional series in a few weeks.
From what I have heard there will be satellites at the Tampa room, but the schedule hasn't been announced yet.

Matt or William, when will structures be released for the other events in the series? I know Matt's only working on the Main, but I'm hoping you will help with input for the entire series. Looking forward to the weekend $560/$1 Million event.
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Someone is walking away a millionaire. This event will be historic.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:28 PM   #181
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Someone is walking away a millionaire. This event will be historic.
2 players will be walking away millionaires and maybe 3....DUCY?
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✋ I do I do!! You already said 2nd is essentially guaranteed to be at least 1mm!!

Can't come up with a single thing to criticize. Was excited when I first heard about this event and couldn't be more elated to see your the tny TD. Structure is great imo. Gonna be a fun one to win 👍
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Here is the May/June Satellite schedule. The July schedules will be out soon. I will post the other Seminole Poker Rooms satellite schedules as soon as they are confirmed.

May Satellites (1~5)
5/21 through 5/31
2p - $115 Rake Free Satellite into the June 8th Mega Satellite

June Satellites
Mondays, Tuesdays, & Wednesdays
2p - $115 Rake Free Step Satellite (2 seats guaranteed)
8p - $575 Turbo Mega Satellite (1 seat Guaranteed)
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6:30p - $575 Mega Satellite (2 seats Guaranteed)
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2p - $575 Mega Satellite (2 seats Guaranteed)

Sunday, June 2nd (1~5)
2p - $115 Rake Free Step Satellite into the June 8th Mega Satellite (10 seats guaranteed)
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12p - $575 Mega Satellite (5 seats Guaranteed)
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Are the $575 Mega Satellite tickets transferable?
Do you get $5,300 cash if you win more than one Main Event seat in the Mega Satellites?
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Hopefully they force you to get different days with multiple wins, and if you bag up you can get cash refund
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Hopefully they force you to get different days with multiple wins, and if you bag up you can get cash refund
That is a great idea!
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Hopefully they force you to get different days with multiple wins, and if you bag up you can get cash refund
Leaning this way, with so many "seat" guaranteed sattys I think this makes the most sense.

If you win a 4th seat you would get cash at that time
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Leaning this way, with so many "seat" guaranteed sattys I think this makes the most sense.

If you win a 4th seat you would get cash at that time
its definitely the play. Really lookin forward to this
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I may have missed it as I was skimming the thread very quickly, but is there any information for online reg? I called a week ago and the SHR said yes but the guy I talked to didnt have the details. I definitely won't be in S. FL. until at least the 23rd so I'm really hoping this thing has an online reg. Anyone have info on this? Matt maybe?
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I may have missed it as I was skimming the thread very quickly, but is there any information for online reg? I called a week ago and the SHR said yes but the guy I talked to didnt have the details. I definitely won't be in S. FL. until at least the 23rd so I'm really hoping this thing has an online reg. Anyone have info on this? Matt maybe?
Currently there is not online registration. We are working on something and are hoping to have it ironed out very soon.
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$350 1/2 milly gtd
$560 milly gtd
$5300 10 millly gtd

bazinga!
Has the structure for event 1 and 7 been posted yet?

I am confused on how these days are scheduled.

For example Event #7 has 5 days listed as day 1A,1B,1C,1D,1E.
So this is a 5 day event? Sorry if this is a newb question

Thanks and this series looks like it will be amazing!

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I may have missed it as I was skimming the thread very quickly, but is there any information for online reg? I called a week ago and the SHR said yes but the guy I talked to didnt have the details. I definitely won't be in S. FL. until at least the 23rd so I'm really hoping this thing has an online reg. Anyone have info on this? Matt maybe?
They need 2k people for the guarantee so I wouldn't worry about it selling out or anything.
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I am interested in the structure for event 1 also. Definitely want to give this one a shot.
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Has the structure for event 1 and 7 been posted yet?

I am confused on how these days are scheduled.

For example Event #7 has 5 days listed as day 1A,1B,1C,1D,1E.
So this is a 5 day event? Sorry if this is a newb question

Thanks and this series looks like it will be amazing!
They overlap so Day 1a and 1b is the same day. One starts in the morning one in the evening so they get in two Day 1 flights a day.
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They overlap so Day 1a and 1b is the same day. One starts in the morning one in the evening so they get in two Day 1 flights a day.
Ok so it looks like there are 2 flight on Thur, Fri, and Sat (day 1A-1F) but I dont see a day 2 listed anywhere for event 7?
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or day 3. Schedule typo at a guess.
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

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Here is the May/June Satellite schedule. The July schedules will be out soon. I will post the other Seminole Poker Rooms satellite schedules as soon as they are confirmed.
Thanks for the schedule. Also know a lot of people interested in sat schedules for Tampa. Hopefully they will be confirmed soon.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:47 PM   #199
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

looks like an awesome schedule, these may have been asked but too lazy to check right now. Now a couple of questions:

i feel like there is going to be lots of multi-tabling the way the series is setup, is multi-tabling allowed? (not talking about the same event obviously)

are all the events re-entries? (unlimited)?

are they "best stack advances from all the starting flights?
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:27 PM   #200
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Re: Seminole Hard Rock (Hollywood) Poker Open ($10,000,000 GTD ME) August 8-29

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looks like an awesome schedule, these may have been asked but too lazy to check right now. Now a couple of questions:

i feel like there is going to be lots of multi-tabling the way the series is setup, is multi-tabling allowed? (not talking about the same event obviously)

are all the events re-entries? (unlimited)?

are they "best stack advances from all the starting flights?
Yes, multi-tabling is permitted. Players just have to make sure they act in turn. As it looks now they will be re-entry and permit "best stack advances".
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