Rio WSOP satellite thread

[Bluff2Win2]

Originally Posted by NickMPK

How can you talk about ICM in a winner-take-all satellite? There is no difference between tournament equity and chip equity at any point in the tournament, unlike a standard SNG, where the marginal value of your last chip when down to four players is enormous.

The mega satellites are not winner-take-all if they get enough players for more than one seat...

[MoreDeadMoney]

Originally Posted by TAFFYMAN

I think he's referring to mtt's not sng type sattys. I think this should be my approach in the mtt play loose early and try to flop a set and hope some fish will gift me their stack then tighten up as inds get higher

Meant SNG's.

Like I said, haven't played a WSOP live SNG, so wasn't familiar w/ the exact structure. Concept still applies, but instead of "first few levels" substitute "first level".

MDM

[CajunDragon]

MoreDeadMoney: The Venetian STTS pay 2 places (equal split). So when there are 3 people left and I have 10-15 BB's do you feel it's right to ever raise fold instead of pushing all in? They are sooo passive. Your going to be crushed if you raise and someone shoves over. Losing there is disastrous.

At the Rio where it's winner take all, I would have no qualms insta-shoving the hands on the pushbot chart.

Also---I have the Rio and Venetian info. Can someone post the Wynn STT payouts, structure etc. Thanks!

CD

Originally Posted by MoreDeadMoney

Here's my standard SNG Strategy. This IMHO works especially well in satellite's where multiple people win the same prize - (ie 2 people get an entry and neither gets anything extra for winning).

1. Play super, super tight early. Setmine and play for a big hand. Don't ever go to your death with a one pair hand early. If you are one of the first two people knocked out, you probably (but not always) did something dumb.

2. In the mid stages, don't play speculative hands. Suited Connectors or worse. You simply don't have the odds to make calls to continue draws. Only play big hands - ABC poker.

3. Late in the game (15bb's or less) play solid ICM poker. If you don't know about this, google pushbot charts or read Kill Everyone. This strategy is pretty standard for MTT's but is applicable for the SNG end game as well.

In short, patience is key early, which buys you a nitty/tight table image for when you have to start making plays late.

Good Luck!

MDM

[MoreDeadMoney]

Originally Posted by CajunDragon

MoreDeadMoney: The Venetian STTS pay 2 places (equal split). So when there are 3 people left and I have 10-15 BB's do you feel it's right to ever raise fold instead of pushing all in? They are sooo passive. Your going to be crushed if you raise and someone shoves over. Losing there is disastrous.

At the Rio where it's winner take all, I would have no qualms insta-shoving the hands on the pushbot chart.

Also---I have the Rio and Venetian info. Can someone post the Wynn STT payouts, structure etc. Thanks!

CD

A lot depends on relative stack size on how I'm playing at that stage. In general it is my goal NOT to be involved in a decisive hand, especially if the other players don't "get it".

However, I could min raise with garbage from the button vs blinds that don't defend and then fold to a shove.

Typically, unless i've observed such a player that won't defend, I'm probably just playing push/fold and not committing chips then folding though.

MDM

[CajunDragon]

Yea. I've been really trying to pay attention to individual player tendencies instead of just going with hard and fast rules. Played 6 now. ITM in 4 so I'd say your advice has helped. Owe you a free beer.

ty ty

[superostrich]

Can anyone confirm that they are not running ANY $1k sats to the ME (other than 7/6-7/9)? Thanks.

[Fitzcat]

Originally Posted by superostrich

Can anyone confirm that they are not running ANY $1k sats to the ME (other than 7/6-7/9)? Thanks.

Single table $1ks run all the time. I think you're right about megas though.

[CajunDragon]

Are there any WSOP main event sattys with added money or seats around town? I'm linking 20% payouts since I'm a nit and almost always make top 20%

[marcro]

Does anyone have an idea as to how many entries the $1,060 Main Event Mega Satellite will likely have on July 6?

Would this be better value over the $550 Main Event Mega Satellite held also on July 6?

[scottc25]

Originally Posted by marcro

Does anyone have an idea as to how many entries the $1,060 Main Event Mega Satellite will likely have on July 6?

Would this be better value over the $550 Main Event Mega Satellite held also on July 6?

Tons of people is the answer. There is also a $2080 on those days as well. Play the highest one you can afford for a better shot at a seat.

[Bluff2Win2]

Originally Posted by scottc25

Tons of people is the answer. There is also a $2080 on those days as well. Play the highest one you can afford for a better shot at a seat.

Would it be better to play a couple of the $550 megas or play one of the more expensive megas?

[j9neverlose]

Is there going to be a satty to the 50k today?

[GrimeRat420]

Has anyone played the 550 main event satelites yet? How soft are they and how long do they take?

[Bluff2Win2]

Originally Posted by j9neverlose

Is there going to be a satty to the 50k today?

http://www.wsop.com/2012/satellites/...nship_MEGA.pdf

[Oxata]

Anyone have links to structure sheet for the SNGs at the Rio this year for the WSOP events?