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Old 04-24-2017, 02:09 PM   #151
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Thanks for releasing the structures.
Is 47-1A really scheduled to end ~7AM?!? That doesn't seem ideal.
Maybe you can consider ending day 1 after 15 levels and late reg. after 12... or moving 1A back a couple hours?
Even then day 1A would end ~5 AM.
47a will be a long flight but we are looking at limiting the duration of the breaks to help with that a bit. That said I don't think we will get all of the levels in as scheduled since PLO plays a fit faster than NLH events. We are scheduled for all of the posted levels or 12% of the remaining field - whichever occurs first. Guessing we rap up prior to 4a with adjusting break schedules and expected time we hit 12% of the remaining field.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:07 PM   #152
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when listed as $520 + 80, does the 80 include house rake and tips? Or is there an additional % taken out of the 520?
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:10 PM   #153
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the feedback is certainly appreciated...I'm fine making everything 10 minutes that starts at 4p or later...is there any concern for some of the longer day ones that will play 12 hours or so though?
No I'm pretty sure that if you show up at a tournament at 4/5pm and plan to play 12 1-hour levels you've had your dinner and/or you can order food at the table and you'd rather get the whole thing over with sooner rather than later. Also I'd assume most people would late reg that rather than play from 5pm to 5am lol but you never know.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:43 PM   #154
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when listed as $520 + 80, does the 80 include house rake and tips? Or is there an additional % taken out of the 520?
The + includes all fees. We don't hide at the bottom of a flyer in small print that there is an additional X% or X% withheld. When you see $520 + $80 that's what it is. The $520 all goes to the prize pool.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:55 PM   #155
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47a will be a long flight but we are looking at limiting the duration of the breaks to help with that a bit. That said I don't think we will get all of the levels in as scheduled since PLO plays a fit faster than NLH events. We are scheduled for all of the posted levels or 12% of the remaining field - whichever occurs first. Guessing we rap up prior to 4a with adjusting break schedules and expected time we hit 12% of the remaining field.
4 AM would be much better (although still much later than any other multi-day MTT!). In order to attain that ending time, you would need to reduce the dinner break from 60 min. to 30 min. (if 10 min. breaks) or just to a regular break (if 15 min. each)... and that still doesn't solve the issue of having late reg. until the beginning of level 16. Even if you reduced all breaks (incl. dinner) to 10 min., that means late reg. would be open until 3:50 AM... it just doesn't make sense. These change seem far more important than reducing breaks from 15 to 10 min.:

* Earlier starting time and/or earlier closing of late reg.
* Reduction or elimination of dinner break
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:07 PM   #156
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Not against that but I'd like more people to jump in and support this before implementing.
Taking away the 30 min extended brk is fine, but plz keep 15 min brks, 10 min is just too short.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:56 PM   #157
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Taking away the 30 min extended brk is fine, but plz keep 15 min brks, 10 min is just too short.
Agreed

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Old 04-25-2017, 01:48 AM   #158
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Taking away the 30 min extended brk is fine, but plz keep 15 min brks, 10 min is just too short.
I was only talking about 4pm or later multi-flights. Maybe do the first 2 breaks 15 minutes, then move to 10 minute breaks later in the evening.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:36 AM   #159
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Can you please just end the $1m gtd for the night after level 15, taking a 15 minute break to color up black chips and having to play a single 40 minute level before bagging is unbearable. Then you can also keep late reg open until start of day 2

Also once again some of these multi flight tournaments that the last flight starts at 11am, should consider starting at 12p or 1p to give bustouts at other venues a chance to hop into your events
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:33 PM   #160
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I was only talking about 4pm or later multi-flights. Maybe do the first 2 breaks 15 minutes, then move to 10 minute breaks later in the evening.
I know what u meant. Still just keep 15 min brks for all events. Much more comfortable for all and ur only adding about 20-25 min overall to the flights compared to 10 min brks. Especially with no dinner/extended brk for events like Milly and Ultimate Goliath, definitely keep 15 min brks, not everyone likes eating at the table.
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:43 PM   #161
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47a will be a long flight but we are looking at limiting the duration of the breaks to help with that a bit. That said I don't think we will get all of the levels in as scheduled since PLO plays a fit faster than NLH events. We are scheduled for all of the posted levels or 12% of the remaining field - whichever occurs first. Guessing we rap up prior to 4a with adjusting break schedules and expected time we hit 12% of the remaining field.
I don't see anything on the structure sheet about stopping play when 12% of the field remains, although I don't disagree with doing that (it should be communicated on the structure sheet).

Rather than depending on PLO playing faster, why not just 15 levels (rather than 18) or 12% of field, whichever is first? IMO, no one's gonna want a 60 min. dinner break at ~11:30 pm, so just make it a regular break and keep the breaks at 15 min. That's still likely going to mean day 1A ends ~4 am. Anything past that is just insane for a day 1 flight. Then the only question would be do you want to allow people to basically buy into day 2 or close late reg. at start of level 13?

I'm just asking you to put yourself in players' shoes here. While such changes might at least make it possible for me to play day 1A, that's not really my main concern. I would like the structure finalized so that at least I can decide whether to play that flight and make/adjust my travel arrangements accordingly. I would also like to see PLO & mixed games succeed in your (and other) series, so don't want you to miss your GTD here.

Will someone else corroborate that players don't want an hour dinner break at 11:30 pm and don't want to play past 4 am during a day 1 flight of a $400 MTT?
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:10 PM   #162
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The + includes all fees. We don't hide at the bottom of a flyer in small print that there is an additional X% or X% withheld. When you see $520 + $80 that's what it is. The $520 all goes to the prize pool.
that's cool. I like that.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:16 AM   #163
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[QUOTE=mrmossy84;52114337]Can you please just end the $1m gtd for the night after level 15, taking a 15 minute break to color up black chips and having to play a single 40 minute level before bagging is unbearable. Then you can also keep late reg open until start of day 2

Agreed, except ideal method would be to also end late reg at the end of day 1/level 15. Not a fan of allowing day 2 late reg.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:00 PM   #164
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I love the idea of day 2 late reg in general, if late reg is open to end of day 1 anyways. Allows bustouts a chance to sleep on it and get back in there while attracting a plethora of new players, likely fun players looking to gamble with the shortstack.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:07 AM   #165
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Are seats won in live satellites must play, or do we get paid in casino chips?

Also +1 to skipping the extended break for 4pm starts. Only scenario I'll end up in any of these late start day 1s is if I busted an event earlier that day. Then I'm obv looking for play to conclude as early as possible.
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Old 04-27-2017, 02:34 PM   #166
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+1 on no extended break on evening starts
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:39 AM   #167
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Hi Chris,

1) Has there been any discussion of offering satellites to some of your events on wsop.com? I'm thinking that I may play a daily (11am/noon) most days I'm out there, then grinding online satellites a few nights from the room. I'd think it would help exposure for your series.

2) I'm indifferent on the extended break on late flights, but it seems the consensus is to eliminate the dinner break. I'd generally agree with that, especially if I could grab something quick like a slice of pizza to hold me over, and have it close to the tournament area, and open until midnight (or whenever the second break is at least).

3) I'm looking forward to playing there. I've only ever played one of your (superduperturbo) dailies before.
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Old 04-28-2017, 04:40 PM   #168
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Are seats won in live satellites must play, or do we get paid in casino chips?

Also +1 to skipping the extended break for 4pm starts. Only scenario I'll end up in any of these late start day 1s is if I busted an event earlier that day. Then I'm obv looking for play to conclude as early as possible.
If you win multiple sattys then you get cash and I am looking at going 15 minute breaks across the board for events starting at 3pm or later. We are looking at additional dining options on the Mezz as well...
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Old 04-28-2017, 04:42 PM   #169
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Hi Chris,

1) Has there been any discussion of offering satellites to some of your events on wsop.com? I'm thinking that I may play a daily (11am/noon) most days I'm out there, then grinding online satellites a few nights from the room. I'd think it would help exposure for your series.

2) I'm indifferent on the extended break on late flights, but it seems the consensus is to eliminate the dinner break. I'd generally agree with that, especially if I could grab something quick like a slice of pizza to hold me over, and have it close to the tournament area, and open until midnight (or whenever the second break is at least).

3) I'm looking forward to playing there. I've only ever played one of your (superduperturbo) dailies before.
1 - Over the summer, no. For non summer events we always have sattys on WSOP.com

2 - see my response directly above this, think we got that worked out

3 - superduberturbo - may be on to something here...
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:39 AM   #170
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Yes - also support getting rid of the 30 minute "extended" break for flights starting after 4PM - don't need this at 11-12PM. I don't have a strong opinion of 10 min vs 15min break - don't think it makes that much of a difference.

Also strongly strongly agree with the suggestion to get rid of playing Level 16 for day 1's - after all the breaks and color ups you are adding more than an hour to the playing time for just 1 level, no point at all especially at like 4AM.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:01 PM   #171
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Recently had foot surgery and will probably still be using walker. I heard valet is fairly far. Is there a doorway where my bf could drop me off closer?
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:59 PM   #172
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Recently had foot surgery and will probably still be using walker. I heard valet is fairly far. Is there a doorway where my bf could drop me off closer?
Valet really isn't that far, considering you have an escalator/elevator right when you get in....elevator can take you to tourney floor level.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:17 PM   #173
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Valet really isn't that far, considering you have an escalator/elevator right when you get in....elevator can take you to tourney floor level.
Cool Thanks. Cuz parking garage is not happening.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:28 PM   #174
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Cool Thanks. Cuz parking garage is not happening.
correct, shorter distance to the Mezz action than the actual poker room on the casino floor from the main entrance where valet is located to
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:09 PM   #175
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correct, shorter distance to the Mezz action than the actual poker room on the casino floor from the main entrance where valet is located to
Can I head straight to the mezzanine to register and to cash out from wsop.com?

(I am looking to start with the HORSE on 5/28)
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