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03-18-2017 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
Chris, I know you are taking a shot with the 5k plo, but can you slap a guarantee on there, even if it's a small one!
Thought about $250K but I'm nervous a guarantee of that size (just 50ish needed to hit) cheapens the appearance of the tournament if that makes sense? We are taking a shot this year and if it draws well then we can gamble a bit next year!
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03-18-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by metalpest
Not much going on June 15/16?
big restart June 15th so tables will be limited and June 16th starts EDC...
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03-18-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
And how long is late registration re-entry allowed for?
Still being worked out - thinking of reg being open as long as you can buy in and have 8 - 10 big blinds which was similar to last year.
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03-18-2017 , 08:57 PM
Thanks for your efforts Chris.
Have played the last two years but not liking the PLO/plo8 scheduling as others mentioned.
Would hate to go deep and miss the wsop 1500plo8. Will be in the wsop PLO but can't see me risking the above when there's a 425 one day plo8 event at Aria the day before the wsop plo8.
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03-18-2017 , 11:28 PM
the amount of really good nlhe tourney options around vegas jammed into the week of 6/24 - 7/2 is actually pretty tilting
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03-19-2017 , 12:33 PM
Move 5k plo a week earlier and I'm in for one or two bullets!
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03-19-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
Move 5k plo a week earlier and I'm in for one or two bullets!
Now that's the traction I'm looking for!
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03-19-2017 , 04:30 PM
Chris, do you have the reference for the single day structures ? Again, what are the payoff percents for the single day events ? Thanx.
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03-19-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by carlo
Chris, do you have the reference for the single day structures ? Again, what are the payoff percents for the single day events ? Thanx.
Still being worked out but leaning towards what we did last year for the structures and switching to 10% ITM
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03-19-2017 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Still being worked out but leaning towards what we did last year for the structures and switching to 10% ITM
Thank you, Chris.
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03-19-2017 , 08:51 PM
I second this!!! A week earlier and you got me for 2 bullets in the 5K plo. I am leaving town when I bust the Main Event.
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03-19-2017 , 08:52 PM
If I bust the Main
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03-20-2017 , 05:08 AM
can u make restart of the plo8/plo ultimate goliath on 23rd earlier like noon or 1pm
we all that make day 2 from either starting flight want the chance to play the wsop 1500 plo8 event on23rd at 3pm. also the day1b is noon start so the turnaround from day1b to day2 would be fine. it makes it almost impossible to play ur event if we wanna play wsop, but if u move restart earlier by 2 or 3 hours it should work for anything but super deep runs.
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03-20-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by maxxscam
can u make restart of the plo8/plo ultimate goliath on 23rd earlier like noon or 1pm
we all that make day 2 from either starting flight want the chance to play the wsop 1500 plo8 event on23rd at 3pm. also the day1b is noon start so the turnaround from day1b to day2 would be fine. it makes it almost impossible to play ur event if we wanna play wsop, but if u move restart earlier by 2 or 3 hours it should work for anything but super deep runs.
looks like that is an error, we can make that restart noon on 6/23.
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03-20-2017 , 01:04 PM
Thanks again for the feedback everyone! Two events have come into question.

PLO - PLO 8/B 6/21a 6/22b restart 6/23 The restart is currently scheduled for 3pm and will be moved to noon. Does that solve the problem or is a wholesale change needed?

GOLIATH PLO High Roller 7/12 Is this event better served to move to July 6th?
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03-20-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Thanks again for the feedback everyone! Two events have come into question.

PLO - PLO 8/B 6/21a 6/22b restart 6/23 The restart is currently scheduled for 3pm and will be moved to noon. Does that solve the problem or is a wholesale change needed?

GOLIATH PLO High Roller 7/12 Is this event better served to move to July 6th?
July 7th would be perfect Chris! Plan on playing 25k plo, so an extra day would be great. But July 6th would be better than where it is. Thanks for listening to the players!
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03-20-2017 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
July 7th would be perfect Chris! Plan on playing 25k plo, so an extra day would be great. But July 6th would be better than where it is. Thanks for listening to the players!
I Agree, i am planning on doing the same. Appreciating this Chris!
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03-20-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Thanks again for the feedback everyone! Two events have come into question.

PLO - PLO 8/B 6/21a 6/22b restart 6/23 The restart is currently scheduled for 3pm and will be moved to noon. Does that solve the problem or is a wholesale change needed?

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Originally Posted by An1mal
Thanks for your efforts Chris.
Have played the last two years but not liking the PLO/plo8 scheduling as others mentioned.
Would hate to go deep and miss the wsop 1500plo8. Will be in the wsop PLO but can't see me risking the above when there's a 425 one day plo8 event at Aria the day before the wsop plo8.

Hey Chris- first a big shoutout to you for being the #1 TD to listen to players' feedback.

Unfortunately, I share the same opinion as An1mal- I just value the WSOP $1500 PLO8 too much (it's the #1 event I look forward to every year). Even with a guaranteed Day 2 money in your event and even if you bump up your Day 2 to noon, the easiest solution for us to not risk missing the WSOP PLO8 is to just go play the Aria one-day $465 PLO8. Maybe if that Aria event didn't exist I would've had to re-evaluate...

I know it'll be tough to move a 2 starting flight, 2-day event but if you want to reconsider, 6/14, 6/18, and 6/20 are the three dates still empty of PLO or PLO8 events in Las Vegas, if you can work any magic around those dates (though be warned of the WSOP 1500 PLO on the 21st). And 6/17 if you're like me and are too lazy to go downtown to Binion's.

As AllInTheDark suggested, I'd also strongly recommend 6/17-6/19 or 6/18-6/20 (but please not 6/19-6/21 because of the WSOP 1500 PLO). If you don't have the room/consecutive dates available, it's also not out of the question to make it a one starting flight, two day event.... (There is a Venetian $600 PLO Bounty on the 19th which is why I recommend 6/17-6/19 over 6/18-6/20).

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03-20-2017 , 03:52 PM
Thanks for the Dealer's Choice events. Will they have the same game choices as the WSOP event?
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03-20-2017 , 05:38 PM
I just have to echo the comments of akashenko.

You do a great job of listening to player feedback and adjusting and we all appreciate that... that being said the schedule has some big overlap issues with the Venetian and I feel it needs to be adjusted.

The Milly overlapping w Venetian MSPT 2.5 Milly is just a problem waiting to happen. Like was said at best it will split the player pool between the both and at worst this will be a dud. Def understand keeping the Colossus crowd around, but moving it a few days so it is possible to play both would go a long way. Same with several other overlapping events that he mentioned in his post, some of the 500ks, the main vs the 3500 3M etc.

Bc of "seniority" in a sense here is a heriarchy on Vegas poker tournaments for the summer. WSOP reveals their schedule, then Venetian looks at it and makes theirs accordingly and releases theirs.... and then you should look at both and make yours accordingly and release. This isn't saying the PH series is inferior, just it's a newer series so has to let the more experienced tourneys have first crack and schedule around them. I would like to see you guys do well and crush- but adjusting some dates on some of the big guarantees, taking both WSOP and Venetian schedules into considering would help a great deal imo. Just my 2 cents.
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03-20-2017 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TDChrisG
Thanks again for the feedback everyone! Two events have come into question.

PLO - PLO 8/B 6/21a 6/22b restart 6/23 The restart is currently scheduled for 3pm and will be moved to noon. Does that solve the problem or is a wholesale change needed?

GOLIATH PLO High Roller 7/12 Is this event better served to move to July 6th?
PLO move to 7/6 is PERFECT.
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03-21-2017 , 01:36 AM
Maybe you could do a promotion for the PLO high roller where whatever the prizepool is this year will be the guarantee next year, sort of like the progressive guarantee promotion that certain poker sites have done to both boost hype on an event and set a realistic guarantee when they themselves are unsure what the actual turnout will be.
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03-21-2017 , 02:33 AM
are there poker room rates?
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03-21-2017 , 06:24 AM
Chris, perhaps accelerating the structure for the 30 minute nlh tourneys which, if memory serves me right, lasted into the AM last year.

Planing for a 10-11 hour tourney would be appreciated, at least on this end. Thanx.
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03-21-2017 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerella
Hey Chris- first a big shoutout to you for being the #1 TD to listen to players' feedback.

Unfortunately, I share the same opinion as An1mal- I just value the WSOP $1500 PLO8 too much (it's the #1 event I look forward to every year). Even with a guaranteed Day 2 money in your event and even if you bump up your Day 2 to noon, the easiest solution for us to not risk missing the WSOP PLO8 is to just go play the Aria one-day $465 PLO8. Maybe if that Aria event didn't exist I would've had to re-evaluate...

I know it'll be tough to move a 2 starting flight, 2-day event but if you want to reconsider, 6/14, 6/18, and 6/20 are the three dates still empty of PLO or PLO8 events in Las Vegas, if you can work any magic around those dates (though be warned of the WSOP 1500 PLO on the 21st). And 6/17 if you're like me and are too lazy to go downtown to Binion's.

As AllInTheDark suggested, I'd also strongly recommend 6/17-6/19 or 6/18-6/20 (but please not 6/19-6/21 because of the WSOP 1500 PLO). If you don't have the room/consecutive dates available, it's also not out of the question to make it a one starting flight, two day event.... (There is a Venetian $600 PLO Bounty on the 19th which is why I recommend 6/17-6/19 over 6/18-6/20).
Pretty much agree with above .
I guess your Goliath being moved a day or 2 later is possibly not an option to accommodate this as you probably targeting weekend crowds for nlh. That said someone did put this earlier in the thread

"Your second Ultimate Goliath Stack 500K GTD (starting 6/18) is going up against both an $800 800K GTD and a $1600 2MM GTD. While the difference in value between your event and theirs is not quite as stark as the above example, it still seems an odd spot to include one of your premier events. You will certainly not get nearly the field you would on some other days. I won't be able to be in town that weekend. But if I were, I would likely choose the 2MM guarantee 100% of the time."

Even then you would clash with 360/365 PLO and limit 08 at binions/nugget but that's a big diff to clashing with the aria straight plo8 one dayer .

Hope this helps but I appreciate it's a very busy week for PLO/plo8. Haven't booked yet but I'm out for 10/11 nights prob with tournament options nearly every day ( nearly all pl) . Would hate you to miss your guarantee though and affect future years .

Cheers .
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